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Drapsey 4/23/25, 4:42:01 PM
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In reply to Walco

Without referring to it by name, #45/47 wants to implement the FairTax that was tabled back in 2005.

FairTax...

FairTax is a fixed rate sales tax proposal introduced as bill H.R. 25 in the United States Congress every year since 2005. The Fair Tax Act calls for elimination of the Internal Revenue Service[1] and repeal the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. H.R. 25 would eliminate all federal income taxes (including the alternative minimum tax, corporate income taxes, and capital gains taxes), payroll taxes (including Social Security and Medicare taxes), gift taxes, and estate taxes, replacing federal taxes with a single consumption tax levied on retail sales.

The variation on that FairTax proposal is that instead of the 'fixed' national Sales Tax rate (25% ??), he wants the tariffs effect to be the replacement.
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SnoopDog 4/23/25, 4:49:34 PM
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In reply to Walco

Well I do not have a transcript of the trial, but I watched most of that trial and was never convinced that the evidence was planted.


I watched that trial during my undergrad and it inspired me to pursue law school.

How do you reconcile the clear inconsistent testimony of Furman at the preliminary inquiry with that at the trial on such crucial piece of the evidence used by the police and prosecution? And that was only one example of the police's infidelity with the evidence and their own statements under oath.
Walco 4/23/25, 6:08:26 PM
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The blood of OJ and the 2 victims was found at the murder scene, as well as in OJ's Bronco and on the leather glove found at OJ's house. The bloody glove found at OJ's house matched a glove found at the murder scene. If the racist Fuhrman took the bloody glove from the murder scene and planted it, that would explain why the blood of the 2 victims was on the glove found at OJ's house and in the Bronco. But it would not explain how OJ's blood got in the Bronco and inside the bloody glove found at his home. Nor would it explain OJ's blood at the murder scene. One of the facts about that case that I remember was that OJ flew to Chicago late on the night of the murders and had no contact with the police until he returned to LA. So there was no way for Fuhrman to get OJ's blood and plant it anywhere. The reason I remember OJ's flight to Chicago was because I was on a flight that landed at Los Angeles airport on the night of the murders. So naturally I wondered it I was at the airport the same time as OJ smile

I vaguely remember some evidence mishandling (chain of custody?) issues in that case, but apparently they were not sufficient to convince me that the results of the blood tests were tainted.
carl0002 4/23/25, 6:13:17 PM
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Only one echo chamber at a time pleasebig grin
carl0002 4/23/25, 6:15:50 PM
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I think Tariff man is going senile and at times his brain returns and he cancels tariffs and then in short order it goes and he brings back the tariffs.
SnoopDog 4/23/25, 7:07:50 PM
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In reply to Walco

The few minuscule drops of OJ's blood found on the Bronco, the gate, and his socks were 'found' and collected the next day, and weeks, after the murder had occurred and after the LAPD had obtained a sample of OJ's blood when he returned from Chicago.

OJ cut on his finger in his hotel room in Chicago and the manager gave him a band aid. The captain and others on that flight to Chicago also didn't see any cut on OJ's hand during the flight there.

And then you have the fact that it was Furhman (a junior detective at the time) who "found" most the incriminating evidence with no one else present also. Furhman had a history with OJ and his wife before this case. He was told when he arrived at the crime scene that he would be relieved of his duties on the case by more senior detectives. Then magically, he finds the glove at Bundy and became a star witness and chained himself to the case. He then goes on to find blood on the Bronco and the other glove at the Rockingham house. At a crime scene littered with police, only 1 seem to have an eye to find incriminating evidence and only when he was alone.

As an aside, two crucial witnesses (neighbours) who may have seen the actual murderers/assassins where excluded by Ito. They had given a report to the police that while on a walk they saw Ms. Simpson speaking with two men right at the gate to the property. The time which they saw the interaction was determined to be minutes before the murders. They may have been the only two people to have seen the actual killers.

The manner in which Ms. Simpson was murdered had all the hallmarks of a drug hit. That's why I suggest you Google the term "Colombian neck tie". She was very much known to have been a cocaine addict was in debt to her drug dealers.
SnoopDog 4/23/25, 7:45:58 PM
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In reply to carl0002

I think Tariff man is going senile and at times his brain returns and he cancels tariffs and then in short order it goes and he brings back the tariffs.


Apparently, 80% of Americans want manufacturing to return to America, but only 20% of Americans want to work in manufacturing. big grin
Walco 4/23/25, 7:55:16 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

Let's agree to disagree on this one. I am truly impressed with the depth of your memory/knowledge about that case though. I don't remember the chronology and I do not remember how much blood was found where, but you obviously believe that Fuhrman was not acting alone. Also, I don't remember which witnesses were excluded from testifying. That trial was a free-for-all where Judge Ito allowing almost anything into evidence. So you had to be a crackpot to be excluded from testifying in that trial.

And I never believed the convenient story about OJ cutting his hand on broken glass in the hotel room in Chicago. His hand conveniently had a cut in the same area where there was a tear/cut/opening in the bloody glove that was found at his house.

I was never an OJ fan, but I did not have a problem with what I believed was a jury nullification verdict. I viewed it as black women on a jury in Los Angeles getting even for Rodney King and all those times white juries presented with overwhelming evidence of guilt acquitted white men who were accused of killing black men. It was not hard for Johnny Cochran and crew to convince a group of black women on a jury in Los Angeles that LAPD could not be trusted. In fact, he probably did not have to convince them of something they already believed. The irony of it all was that OJ never had any interest in black causes or the black community until he was accused of murder.

Lest we forget, OJ had a documented history of beating up and threatening his ex wife
Walco 4/23/25, 7:56:46 PM
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In reply to carl0002

Only one echo chamber at a time please

I derailed my own thread smile
Walco 4/23/25, 8:02:33 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

Weren't there some unique designer shoe prints found at the crime scene that matched shoes owned by OJ?
SnoopDog 4/23/25, 8:03:10 PM
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In reply to Walco

Lest we forget, OJ had a documented history of beating up and threatening his ex wife


And the LAPD had a even more documented history of planting evidence and institutional racism against Blacks and Latinos - notwithstanding Furhman's perjury and verified and documented anti-Black racism.

As F. Lee Bailey so eloquently put it: "OJ was made to suffer the damnation of an acquittal".

No other person before, or since, has had to suffer the same fate in the court of public opinion.
SnoopDog 4/23/25, 8:10:59 PM
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Weren't there some unique designer shoe prints found at the crime scene that matched shoes owned by OJ


Yeah. The Bruno Magli shoes. Apparently the shoe was so unique and rare that the only store that sold them had no record of selling a pair to OJ.

But the LAPD admitted in cross that they trampled all over and contaminated the scene with their own footprints and foot impressions.
SnoopDog 4/23/25, 8:15:27 PM
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In reply to Walco

I derailed my own thread


My bad. lol

But the irony and hypocrisy of redneck America frothing at the mouth (to this day) that an n-word person got off killing a White woman, but having no hesitation and compunction about voting for and cult like worshiping a convicted felon rapist con man is not lost on me.
Walco 4/23/25, 8:15:40 PM
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In reply to Chrissy

The threat of empty shelves got Tariff Man quaking in his boots big grin
camos 4/23/25, 8:20:04 PM
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Walco 4/23/25, 8:23:27 PM
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Man the anger from white America after the OJ verdict was insane. The backlash against the first black president came close, but I think we are still in the midst of that backlash
SnoopDog 4/23/25, 8:29:51 PM
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The Dotard, and the complete breakdown of norms, customs, and the rule of law during this incompetent administration is White America's revenge for the Obama presidency.

They will never let it go.
Walco 4/23/25, 9:27:57 PM
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The Dotard, and the complete breakdown of norms, customs, and the rule of law during this incompetent administration is White America's revenge for the Obama presidency.

And two doses of Tariff Man instead of one sad
ponderiver 4/24/25, 5:53:31 AM
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In fact, I viewed the OJ verdict as a case of jury nullification in the face of overwhelming evidence of guilt
. The only fact here is your opinion ,That and your obvious desire to see a black man found guilty for a crime he didn't commit .......... let me remind you of facts OJ was not guilty Trump has 34 counts to his name and the maggots made him President....... Bye
Walco 4/24/25, 11:07:49 AM
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In reply to ponderiver

big grin lol shock wuhloss ... murda ... wuh di rass ... That is some major projection there pondi. Why did you feel the need to jump into this river instead of staying pon-di bank? The water in here might be too deep fih yuh enuh. My views are opinion, but yours are fact? You apparently were there and witnessed the murders in person. But I am/was having a civil conversation with Snoop about the evidence of guilt and innocence in the OJ case ...
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ponderiver 4/24/25, 11:25:19 AM
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In reply to Walco

murda ... wuh di rass
yuh quoting Trump when di tariffs backfired

big grinbig grinbig grin

anyway peace and love.
StumpCam 4/24/25, 11:33:29 AM
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Tariff Man backpedaling faster than an Unstable Genius!razz
sgtdjones 4/24/25, 1:40:48 PM
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. The only fact here is your opinion ,That and your obvious desire to see a black man found guilty for a crime he didn't commit .......... let me remind you of facts OJ was not guilty Trump has 34 counts to his name and the maggots made him President..


Well said.

An opinion is a statement that expresses a feeling, an attitude, a value judgment, or a belief.
It seems one doesn't need facts to have an opinion.shock
carl0002 4/24/25, 2:38:10 PM
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I think Tariff man is looking for a way out without getting mud on his face. He is looking for a way to acquiesces/fold/mail it in that makes him look good, make him not look weak. That's why he keep flip flopping. As soon as he appears weak , he flips again. But China et al not giving him a break as they know that's what he is doing. China and all who matters in this trade fiasco also knows that he has a budget to pass, which if passed it will depend on them to finance its tax cuts for billionaires and they are also watching it. Tariff man has painted himself into 5 dimensional corner of his own making. At this point he is begging for his own GOP to bail him out, without asking for them to bail him out. Cuz he will only turn around and blame it on them for intervening. Tariff man reminds me of a Character called Lucky in my Grade A reading book in Primary School. Tell you about lucky later.
Brerzerk 4/24/25, 5:54:49 PM
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What a varied, serious, insightful yet humorous, bantering thread. Wow, why I read here
This weekend I watched the movie ( based on true events) The Short and Tragic Life of Robert Peace. It is a must watch
Made me ask- "Are some inevitable criminals such as The Iowa PhD candidate and Rob Peace?

Is criminality wholly dependent on life circumstances plus environment.

How much more study of the brain before we can learn about q0% of it?
Now here's a derailment if ever there was one.
But please if you haven't please watch that movie!
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