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No breakout talent from T20 cricket

sgtdjones 4/29/25, 2:33:53 PM
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No breakout talent from T20 cricket

The West Indies Breakout League T20 competition bowled off on April 25 at the Brian Lara Cricket Stadium in Tarouba. It is a premier T20 cricket tournament designed to spotlight emerging talent from across the Caribbean. It continues until May 10.According to reliable reports, each team is closely affiliated with a Caribbean Premier League franchise, providing players with an opportunity to showcase their skills on a larger stage and progress their cricketing careers.However, is this the stage for youngsters to do this? Cricket West Indies president Dr Kishore Shallow described the league as a necessary and strategic move to reshape how talent is developed in the Caribbean. He said this fresh T20 League is a proving ground for the stars of tomorrow. He believes it will usher in a new generation of T20 cricketers. And that this is the first step on that journey.

He misses the point. One cannot be a well-developed T20 cricketer by playing T20 cricket only.

A young cricketer has to learn how to play the game, firstly, by applying himself to the longer game, like in the first-class match, two innings per team, or their club’s first-division games. In this way they master batting technique – the line, length, spin and control of bowling as well as the strategy and tactics of field-placing and bowling changes.
SnoopDog 4/29/25, 3:08:16 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

I tuned into one game and only saw some young cricketers trying desperately to voop and get out.
googley 4/29/25, 3:42:56 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

Thats what happens when cricket is being managed by headless people!
SnoopDog 4/29/25, 3:52:25 PM
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In reply to googley

Headless cricket for headless people.
StumpCam 4/29/25, 4:02:08 PM
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Thats what happens when cricket is being managed by headless people!


Be nice! You don’t have to be so mean to our northern neighbors!razz
imusic 4/29/25, 5:06:28 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones
He misses the point. One cannot be a well-developed T20 cricketer by playing T20 cricket only.

A young cricketer has to learn how to play the game, firstly, by applying himself to the longer game, like in the first-class match, two innings per team, or their club’s first-division games. In this way they master batting technique – the line, length, spin and control of bowling as well as the strategy and tactics of field-placing and bowling changes.


How much FC cricket is Vaibhav Suryavanshi playing?
dayne 4/29/25, 5:10:25 PM
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The Breakout league will eventually be a positive for WI cricket as it is going to encourage most players to improve their all-round game, most will improve their skill in fielding and that will improve the level of fielding in the first-class tournament and CPL.
SnoopDog 4/29/25, 5:28:10 PM
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How much FC cricket is Vaibhav Suryavanshi playing?


How much FC cricket are the rest of the Indians playing Mickey Mouse IPL playing?
granite 4/29/25, 7:21:39 PM
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Daniel Cyrus the leggie who dismantled GRF.lol
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natty_forever 4/29/25, 8:37:10 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

These peeps who like to take one exception and turn it into the norm.
sgtdjones 4/29/25, 8:47:48 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

I watched both games that TTL was involved in ....all teams had numerous poor players.

I was embarrassed. You are correct; all the batsmen were voopers.rolleyes
natty_forever 4/30/25, 1:50:57 AM
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See why we need the league. IPL Indians didn't look all that great in the beginning either. Look at them now. 14yrs old. 35 ball ton. I rest my case.
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sgtdjones 4/30/25, 2:59:33 AM
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Natty ..

CWI and this bunch of players will be killed in the Indian Rangi league.

They would not be close in any game played.

They are clueless about batting, bowling, and fielding, but they have bling.evil

I watched a few games with T&TL , I was shocked by how unprepared these players are for the next level.
One player on T&TL may have a suspect action.

Some are on CWI retainer list...for what?

They are clueless on that field, and they act like they are stars ...

Boycott Mother-in-Law is better than any of these players.

We shall never see another Hall, Rowe, Hendricks, Sobers, Kanhai , Lara , Viv, etc and those amazing fast bowlers Lloyd had again.

evil
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methodic 4/30/25, 4:01:16 AM
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you guys are from hell, give the players a chance to grow
sgtdjones 4/30/25, 4:43:51 AM
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In reply to methodic

How old are they? 12 years old?

You have 14-15 year-olds playing in the IPL with skills that none of these breakout players have.

Have you not seen our ranking over the past 3 decades? We are turning the corner.

Oh yea they are growing.... On a world team, how many would make it?

Now compare such to the mid-1900s.
Onionman0 4/30/25, 6:24:15 AM
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"Beating around the bushes"
"Missing the forest for the tree"

Posters can choose accordingly.....

When West Indies won 2012 World Cup.....IPL was in nascent stage, it started only in 2008......but local West Indies T-20 league...which was known as Stanford T-20 in 2003 ... already completed 9 years... albeit CWI take over....after Stanford fiasco...players like Gayle,Samuel, Santokie,Badree,Lendl Simmons,Pollard etc. developed their T-20 skills in local league.....most enhanced the quality of IPL, by their presence....

But, unfortunately......after 2013, when local league was remodelled around IPL..... although, it became more successful but local talents hardly got exposed....

Now, those who are applauding IPL.....ever heard of Mushtaque Ali Trophy..... Must know.....the stepping stone for Indian players is not IPL....but Mustaque Ali trophy, an Indian T-20 league, where local talents get exposure, identified and recognise..... subsequently, these players are listed in IPL auction....then purchased by franchisee....

CWI, realised their folly......converting local T-20 league into commercial,.........

Break-Out league is correction steps.....in right direction...give this league 3 years time....then see the difference...

As for Vaibhav.....well our own, Nicolas Pooran at 16, scored one of the fastest 50 in 2013....all because nurturing these youngers got in local league....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Syed_Mushtaq_Ali_Trophy
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methodic 5/1/25, 1:30:39 AM
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In reply to Onionman0

thank you
Yardman_83 5/1/25, 3:14:45 AM
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In reply to sgtdjones
I totally agree with this take. I am trying to understand the aim. We have a truncated 4 day tournament that needs to be extended. If there is a need for a breakout league it is for the longer formats of the game. We have to build the fundamentals and t20 will not do that.
sgtdjones 5/1/25, 4:01:58 AM
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In reply to Yardman_83

I don't disagree with what they are trying to do:

When looking at the players selected herein lies my problem...

These players lack the understanding of the basic fundamentals of cricket.

The bowlers are lacking what someone should be doing on a cricket pitch.

Batsmen are in a swiping/vooping mode; a few cannot catch nor field balls as they slip by them.

Now if this is the best we have on display , CWI needs to reset.

Have we not learned anything over the last 3 decades now being classified as minnows?
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sgtdjones 5/1/25, 4:08:31 AM
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In reply to Onionman0

Forget the past... there is no future in history

Comment on what's on the playing field today; how many can make a world-international B team? NONE.

We have just lost 3 decades in cricket ...we are now minnows.

Soon Hong Kong and Argentina will beat us....What then do we give them more time.

These players lack the basic knowledge and fundamentals of playing cricket.

But, we would win any bling contest...twisted
Onionman0 5/1/25, 5:02:59 AM
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In reply to sgtdjones

Forget the past... there is no future in history


Past, present & future are inter- weaved.......the greatest of players watch their past videos to rectify their technical glitches......

CWI has done the same......as Administrator, one should see, why new players not coming up in T-20..... They correctly recognised their mistakes.....so started the Break away league, which will now act as stepping stone for CPL.....then to international recognition..just as Mustaque Ali Trophy -IPL model.....

Mark my words Sargeant.....in two years time you will be first amongst many to Tom Tom players....

Kudo to CWI for relaunching Local League...
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sgtdjones 5/1/25, 5:23:05 AM
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My post was deleted.... evil
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natty_forever 5/1/25, 10:18:04 AM
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Would love an inter Island competition as well in preparation for the Olympics.
JayMor 5/1/25, 2:53:57 PM
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My post was deleted.

I hope you're not thinking the webwallah (the admin) or a moderator did that. This board has had a glitch for some time now wherein you post and it renders with no content, or sometimes just the first part.

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