The Independent Voice of West Indies Cricket

CWI urgently needs!!!

Gun_Play 6/7/25, 3:15:37 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
4,576 runs

To implement a system based on winning. The winning culture in WI cricket has long died and an endless period of mediocrity has taken over. A performance based payment system is needed now! If we're truly being honest, a performance based system was needed decades ago.

We can not sit back and watch these 'clowns' completely destroy our legacy, while making significant sums for below average performances. It hurts me to demean our cricketers, but I believe their care very little about how they're perceived. They clearly lack accountability. No accountability for themselves or for the region they represent. Hence, an incentive based performances structure should be implemented urgently.

Winning a series should constitute full pay regardless of indivisual performance. However, outside of that, match fees should be based on indivisual performances per game.

For instance, a lost series should automatically constitute 50% percent match fees per game, with individual performances, in each game of the series, increasing that percentage per game.

In other words, a player making a 100 or taking 5 wickets in the game two of a lost series, should still be able to reach full match salary, for that particular game, based on a well thought out system.

Players making 50 runs or taking 3 wickets, in a lost series, should make 75% match salary, for that particular game.

Batting scores between 0-20 should not be rewarded incentives in a lost series. Batting scores between 21-49, in a lost series, should receive 60% match fees.

Same goes for bowlers, bowlers who take one wicket or less, in a match, in a series lost, should not be rewarded incentives. Two wickets, in a match, in a series lost, should receive 60% match fees, for that particular game.


Hopefully, CWI can quickly implement something like this. Otherwise this 'bottomless pit' will only continue to get bigger.
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bolls 6/7/25, 3:22:08 PM
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debut: 6/14/19
3,103 runs

NOTHING WILL CHANGE THE WORSTINDIES FORTUNES. THEY ARE BORN LOSERS, BORN TO FAIL. THE ONLY REASON THEY PERFORMED IN AVERAGE WAY DURING 80'S IS BECAUSE THERE WAS ONLY 1 WORLD CLASS TEAM THEN WHICH IS AUS. NOW THERE ARE 4-6 WORLD CLASS TEAMS AND 4-5 AVERAGE TEAMS, WITH THOSE TEAMS WOUNDIES WILL NOT WIN ANYTHING. SO ITS BETTER FOR WOUNDIES IF THEY PLAY AGAINST BELOW ASSOCIATE LEVEL.

DEDING WID LAF EEDIOTS.

lollollollollollol
camos 6/7/25, 3:48:58 PM
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debut: 5/6/03
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In reply to Gun_Play

In reply to Gun_Play
For instance, a lost series should automatically constitute 50% percent match fees per game, with individual performances, in each game of the series, increasing that percentage per game[quote]
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When a patient dies the doctor sill gets his full fee, if you end up in prison, you still have to pay the lawyer.
brians_da_best 6/7/25, 4:00:33 PM
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This policy will scare away the few players who still bother to represent us
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Gun_Play 6/7/25, 8:48:33 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to camos

These guys aren't lawyers.

They're suppose to be professional athletes, but they're very poor ones.

Lawyers with poor win records get less pay than those with winning records, don't you agree?
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Gun_Play 6/7/25, 8:55:55 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to brians_da_best

This policy would put money in the pockets of players who perform.

It would help set high standards.

We can't continue to have guys representing us, playing over a decade, an averaging under 30 with the bat
Walco 6/7/25, 8:58:40 PM
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debut: 6/22/08
14,272 runs

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As brian said, you have come up with the perfect formula to incentivize the Poorans, Shepherds, Russells, Holders, Hopes and anyone else in demand on the T20 circuits to turn their backs on West Indies cricket smile
Gun_Play 6/8/25, 2:11:57 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to Walco

What are they doing now?

These players don't even want to represent the WI.

They rather play other competitions.

Even when they do their performances do not improve the quality of outlr cricketrolleyes
Walco 6/8/25, 4:29:54 AM
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debut: 6/22/08
14,272 runs

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Ok, so your solution to our current woes is to implement a system that will make things worse?

And why would you only punish the players? What about the coaches and administrators? Why not advocate for a well thought out performance-based system that will ensure that no one wants to work for Cricket West Indies?
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Halliwell 6/8/25, 7:03:49 AM
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debut: 5/14/05
24,530 runs

In reply to Walco

Our brothers just simply begrudge the guys who make money.

They call the tournaments that pay these guys ‘shite cricket’
Then conclude the same guys are ‘useless’ when they perform for the WI
There are many spaces available for ‘their players’ that are ‘committed ’ and that played ‘x amount of red ball cricket’ to stamp their name on WI

Like Holder…until he realised what was going on
Like Hety…until he realise aye let me make some money for my famlee

The most committed WI players will be those with the fewest options

I really don’t understand what the issue is
Gun_Play 6/8/25, 12:36:21 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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I have no problem with players going off to make money.

However, there needs to be a limit on how many tournaments these players can 'skip', if WI duty calls.

This thread isn't about those players. It about the performances of guys when they actually represent the WI.
bobby 6/8/25, 1:28:59 PM
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debut: 2/14/03
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In reply to Gun_Play
Is anyone limiting how many jobs you can do? In fact is anyone placing restrictions on how much crap you can write here? Your simplistic view of WI cricket ignores thr reality of all the reasons which have contributed to WI cricket being on life support. Issues that have been debated and discussed here in depth for many, many years.
camos 6/8/25, 1:54:17 PM
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debut: 5/6/03
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In reply to Gun_Play

However, there needs to be a limit on how many tournaments these players can 'skip', if WI duty calls.<div class="bbquote">
</div> This has been litigated, you can't stop none contracted players from going where they want to!
CWI has even given contracted players time off to play elsewhere, Holder comes to mind, but I am sure there are others that I can't think of immediately.
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imusic 6/8/25, 5:20:47 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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The most committed WI players will be those with the fewest options

Correct in most cases.

You know who is the player that is THE MOST COMMITTED to WI cricket?

Alzari Joseph

He has options and still represents WI in every format.

Doesn’t ask for time off. Regularly plays regional competition. Takes abuse from ungrateful, clueless fans, and still does it.
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Gun_Play 6/8/25, 6:22:53 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to bobby

Are you slow?

The limit needs to be put in place because our pool of players is small.

No one is saying they can't go off and make money, but the situation should be limited to where WI players must represent WI at least 75% of the time, at least.

Once again! This thread is not about players going off to play else where, its about players performance, when representing the WI