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Ayenmol 6/18/25, 1:36:14 AM
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To all the people who were laughing at Israel when they attacked Iran and or it's proxy back in October and Iran replied?

A bunch of the West Indies greatest minds claimed they poked the bear.....where are they now?

Now it's obvious the gloves are off and Israel is ready to risk all and no 9ne is mocking here?

Wow!

Just shows how little people here know about anything....just wishful thinking and envy by those who hate the US hoping someone comes up to give them their comeupance.

Would not be surprised if many here would like to see Iran get a Nuclear device because they believe they are likely to use it....

Bunch of foolss! Have no idea where the real power lies and just spout nonsense!

Russia....paper tiger! A smal country with a third their resources taking them to the cleaners.....yet many here were convinced that Russia was better than the US millitarily.

Now Iran....another paper tiger....now am actually paying attention, find out that Iran has a limited number of missiles that can reach Israel and has burned through most of that already.

I guess next will be NK and China.

What a bunch of buffoons. Dilusional people.

No idea who holds real power in the world and who are just posturing!

Am not rooting for anyone, but at least i do not have my head in the clouds on where the might lies in this World.

Man! Arent you people tired of being wrong?
Cheeks 6/20/25, 9:48:01 PM
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In reply to Ayenmol

Methinks in your 'know-it-all-ness and arrogance...you may have jumped the gun on Iran?

I for one pray that sanity prevails and respect for human life can prevent people from going any more crazy than they already are.
Halliwell 6/20/25, 11:26:25 PM
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In reply to Ayenmol

You just have Love pouring out of you at all times don’t you…
Ayenmol 6/21/25, 2:24:49 AM
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In reply to Cheeks

You here calling for peace...and life...which one is attacking civilians wantoly?

So many here were quick to criticize Israel for going after the Gazans, killing so many civilians....and rightfully so.

But then Hamas were the ones who kidnapped and killed Israelis. So they started events.

Now, Israel started this skirmish, but Iran is the one wantonly killing civilians, and evwryone is blaming Israel....and by that i mean everyone here.

So give me a break. It is obvious that this is not a group of people who care to look at things objectively, but just hate one side and would not care how those people end up as long as it is dead.

So please! Peace? There has never been peace. And there never will be peace. At what point will this become clear?

For most of history Israel has been attacked by people who are getting financed by Iran... or so it is reported.

Are the reports wrong?

So who is surprised that this is what it has come to?
Ayenmol 6/21/25, 2:26:55 AM
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In reply to Halliwell

Who should i have love for? The haters here? Those who align thenselves with whomeber they feel can strike the Big bad Ameruca and its allies?

You might think that is what is the right thing...but as i see it, its just people who hate others and want to see harm come to them....
KTom 6/21/25, 10:51:28 AM
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Hate is a very abused word. I think you mistake hate - which is an intense, sometimes even healthy, emotion - with resentment. Many posters here could be seen as textbook examples of Nietzsche's idea of ressentiment.

Friedrich Nietzsche described ressentiment as a deep sense of resentment or bitterness that arises when individuals feel powerless to express or act upon their negative emotions. Instead of confronting their frustrations directly, they suppress these feelings and redirect them inward. This process leads to a buildup of hostility, which eventually transforms into a distorted perception of morality and values. According to Nietzsche, ressentiment plays a significant role in shaping certain moral systems, where values are created not from strength or vitality but as a reaction against perceived oppressors or injustices. He believed that this mindset focuses on blaming external forces for one’s own shortcomings, fostering a cycle of negativity and self-deception. Ressentiment, in Nietzsche's view, traps individuals in a state of weakness, as they lose the ability to take responsibility for their own lives and instead define their worth in opposition to others they perceive as more powerful or successful. This state can profoundly affect both personal development and societal structures.
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To my mind, the unspoken source of this frustration and resentment is not that they hate the West or whites, in general, but that they feel inferior to it/them. This sense is amplified by the suspicion that whites, for all their preaching of justice and equality, secretly and implicitly look down on non-whites, in general, and blacks, in particular. This is why Trump triggers them so much. Trump is more a traditional African Big Man leader - in his bombastic rhetoric, his libidinous and gluttonous excesses, his tribal group instincts - than a European style one. But he embodies the fear that whites, deep down and if given the choice, prefer to live without non-whites.
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Ayenmol 6/21/25, 12:02:50 PM
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In reply to KTom

I stand corrected.

Excellent point right on target.
Ayenmol 6/21/25, 12:45:14 PM
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This may be appropo.

Resentment builds up and up over time if it is ignored and not dealt with. This is why it gives birth to so many forms of hatred and revenge. I met a man from Bosnia who told me that the entire war and all its awful genocide in his country was due to one thing: the politicians who tapped into the resentment among the three different groups in his culture—the Roman Catholics, the Orthodox, and the Muslims. All three had long-standing complaints against the others, and the politicians, with their own agendas, exploited this resentment.
sudden 6/21/25, 1:47:17 PM
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In reply to KTom

hey man how are you? glad to see that you are recovering.

why didnt you mention that Nietzsche's philosophical renderings, such as they are, are viewed as fundamentally flawed from the standpoint that he leans heavily on nihilism- there is no real purpose to life? so man can be as mean as he wants to other men. this partially explains vanity, greed and wars. except for retaliation there is no consequences and if you have the strongest army, best weapons and the political power the world is at your mercy.

but you need a loyal following to pursue whatever political or personal objective you want to achieve. to do so you must convince some of the populace that your policies will benefit them or the oppositions' policies will marginalise them or benefit another group. that is where hatred of others come in. it is a powerful tool. you blame others for the position those you want to attract are in and you drum home the view that without them your people would be better off. you may even crouch those views in religious wrappings for the more godly

before Europeans entered the so called new world Europe was constantly at war. whether it was religious or territorial etc wars, Europe was embroiled in it. when they so called discovered the new world they directed their nihilistic philosophy to other human groups and that is quite evident in the annihilation of indigenous populations in the new world and the take over of their lands by Europeans.

in short to say that

To my mind, the unspoken source of this frustration and resentment is not that they hate the West or whites, in general, but that they feel inferior to it/them. This sense is amplified by the suspicion that whites, for all their preaching of justice and equality, secretly and implicitly look down on non-whites, in general, and blacks, in particular. This is why Trump triggers them so much. Trump is more a traditional African Big Man leader - in his bombastic rhetoric, his libidinous and gluttonous excesses, his tribal group instincts - than a European style one. But he embodies the fear that whites, deep down and if given the choice, prefer to live without non-whites.


is not painting the full picture. to seat it strictly in Nietzsche's writings on resentment is ignoring the fundamental point of Nietzsche's larger body of work. it is more a reaction to the nihilistic tendencies (a fundamental element that runs through Nietzsche's philosophy) of Europeans toward others than in Nietzsche's narrow view on resentment alone; a Betari Box reaction so to speak.
Ayenmol 6/21/25, 1:58:14 PM
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In reply to sudden

I do not believe the man was addressing or attempting to review Nietzsche's work.

But rather using a portion of his work and observation to understand what we are seeing on this board.

We are not even talking aboit people in general. But the attitude of specific people on this forum who seem hell bent on living vicariously through the hate and violence of others due to their deep seated resentment of a race nationality or religion....or all three.

Sometimes i womder why you all go to such lengths to show your knowledge rather than apply that knowledge intelligently.
sudden 6/21/25, 2:12:56 PM
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In reply to Ayenmol

all men must know their limitations
Ayenmol 6/21/25, 2:22:53 PM
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Say what you mran...am tired of trying to read through the lines when the line is this short.
sudden 6/21/25, 2:26:29 PM
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In reply to Ayenmol

you ought to stay in your own lane then
Ayenmol 6/21/25, 2:34:00 PM
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Hahaha....cute. i will not allow the thread to go of course.

But cute....and i mean that in the most derogatory sense. To be clear.
XDFIX 6/21/25, 2:59:21 PM
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In reply to Ayenmol

People here, for the most part, don't understand religious faiths and secular ideology!

A theocratic government can be very dangerous to mankind, so too ungodly ideology, I must hasten to add!
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Ayenmol 6/21/25, 3:12:07 PM
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Ok....You tend rpto make wild statements than make a case for your belisf.

Why? Why do you believe yhat a theocratic government can be dangerous to....mankind.

Because no one else claims to have a theocratic government....as far as i know, yet i would argue that all governments are dangerous in their own ways.

Right now, some would say the actions of Israel is quite dangerous for what it can lead to....Russia...China etc.