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The State of Cricket in Jamaica. Time Come
debut: 11/13/02
64,423 runs
In reply to natty_forever
Wavell looking like he’s eating KFC by the bucket
Wavell looking like he’s eating KFC by the bucket
debut: 11/14/02
19,856 runs
In reply to FanAttick
For sure. Hope he does not win a seat in Parliament . Big time talker
and I am yet to hear him make sense even if full of promises.
But if and when he outlines his plans for the cricket and implement
them, then I will give him his due. Till then, KFC as you said may be his best friend.
For sure. Hope he does not win a seat in Parliament . Big time talker
and I am yet to hear him make sense even if full of promises.
But if and when he outlines his plans for the cricket and implement
them, then I will give him his due. Till then, KFC as you said may be his best friend.
debut: 11/13/02
64,423 runs
In reply to hubert
In reply to Chrissy
The state of Sabina Park is an utter disgrace..Cant believe this is Jamaica’s premier cricket facility
In reply to Chrissy
The state of Sabina Park is an utter disgrace..Cant believe this is Jamaica’s premier cricket facility
debut: 1/12/04
35,662 runs
England without Yorkshire
Australia without New South Wales
Windies Without Jamaica ...It can't work.
Australia without New South Wales
Windies Without Jamaica ...It can't work.
debut: 11/15/02
20,458 runs
In reply to Chrissy
The JLP government was never for the people of Jamaica or for the cultural development of Jamaica! The current grifters are more interested in filling their pockets and give the people empty promises. Nothing to enhance the development in any area nor for the forward progress of Jamaica or Jamaicans. It's been a mainstay of the JLP government since its inception.
They are more interested in making Jamaica a US colony and dependent bastard country. No pride in in the country. Thus, the underdevelopment of our cultural heritage and specifically the sport of cricket. All areas of the sports for that matter. So sad for the sport of cricket. Bina was once a name that exudes pride and excellence. No more.
I went on the pitch with Courtney Walsh, and I will never forget it. I took my friend from Guyana, and he loved it.
We have a bastard government. Ill-equipped to deal with Jamaica.
The JLP government was never for the people of Jamaica or for the cultural development of Jamaica! The current grifters are more interested in filling their pockets and give the people empty promises. Nothing to enhance the development in any area nor for the forward progress of Jamaica or Jamaicans. It's been a mainstay of the JLP government since its inception.
They are more interested in making Jamaica a US colony and dependent bastard country. No pride in in the country. Thus, the underdevelopment of our cultural heritage and specifically the sport of cricket. All areas of the sports for that matter. So sad for the sport of cricket. Bina was once a name that exudes pride and excellence. No more.
I went on the pitch with Courtney Walsh, and I will never forget it. I took my friend from Guyana, and he loved it.
We have a bastard government. Ill-equipped to deal with Jamaica.
debut: 1/12/06
9,499 runs
In reply to buds
Why when Jamaicans talk about politics they talk about the 70s and 80s.
You talking about Seaga's JLP..In 2025. There's currently no difference between the two parties and their policies currently, neither represent the poor, they are both made of grifters trying to only better themselves and their lovee ones while not giving.l a f#@k about the majority
Why when Jamaicans talk about politics they talk about the 70s and 80s.
You talking about Seaga's JLP..In 2025. There's currently no difference between the two parties and their policies currently, neither represent the poor, they are both made of grifters trying to only better themselves and their lovee ones while not giving.l a f#@k about the majority
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debut: 3/2/03
18,443 runs
In reply to hubert
If he wins a seat, trust mi, he's gonna triple his current size!
If he wins a seat, trust mi, he's gonna triple his current size!
debut: 11/14/02
19,856 runs
In reply to DIEHARD
When I speak about Jamaica, I prefer to reference the 50s and 60s. A mixed
era of accomplishment and tragic turn to violence ..
Accomplishment and transformation came about under the PNP, the Party of Hero
NW Manley assumed leadership and pursuit of its main aim, Self Government
mooted since founding in 1938 began to take root..education ,agriculture, Industry,housing
were put on a pedestal and the social mores uprooted and we were a shining light
to the rest of the region...
The JLP under who took the first steps by winning the fist two terms under Adult suffrage
from 1944, had a leader Bustamante who was famous for touting Salt fish over education.
However, the Manley party was totally side tracked by a Federation which became its downfall
as the British imposed entity was immensely unpopular with the Jamaican people who fort the
first time Emancipation began to assert themselves and were far happier as a people as they saw
real progress and rewarded Manley with a huge increase at the polls of 1959.
Eventually, outflanked by the Street smart cousin Busta, Manley's referendum on Federation
brought him a humiliating defeat. And to complete his demise Manley called a general election which was
not due till 1964 as he moved to achieve Independence in 1962,and suffered an even more
humiliating defeat as he mortgaged his own wonderful home to meet expenses for the election as well as a
the wonderful Drumblair home too leaving the JLP which never had Independence on its radar
to lead the country and by 1965 a rising Seaga's advance in the party, brought gun culture to the
Nation and his rhetoric in a 'Blood for Blood fire for fire ' outburst at what became Heroes Park ceremony
became the bedrock and genesis for violence that remains today.
Although the JLP continued some of the plans and projects in development laid out by the PNP, the
Country's path veered from sound social development and economic integrity to instability in
too many critical reversals to progress except for Lightbourne's ministries , Trade and Industry,which also
embodied Tourism.
The failure to move the Jamaican people on a more progressive path resulted in a decade of Trials which
saw the rise of Michael Manley and his embrace of socialism led to his downfall as the USA dealt out
economic punishment that derailed the best intentions of a progressive government.
In summary the early to mid 60s were wonderful. Father Manley has laid a wonderful foundation an
Housing which was problematic saw Harbour View and Mona as examples and plans for a dormitory
entity at Portmore were also on the cards, The establishment of CAST, not Utech and expansion of
Practical Training centers PTC at Dinthill,Holmwood were establish to bring quality to the Youth
who missed out in gaining Places in traditional High Schools such as JC,KC, Wolmer's et al which
were transformed though 11 plus Exams for all children in the country in 1957 was a feature
of the social changes undertaken and which is still the foundation for better and higher standards
ion secondary education, It was revolutionary at the time.
In recalling some things in that 1955-62 era, I can't help but think of my late friend and mentor,Ewart Walters
who was so extra special on this MB in detailing Jamaica's history prior to 1938 and until the day of his passing.
But that 7 years remains the best time in Jamaica. The NWManley Airport was developed from an Aerodrome
at Palisadoes into a classy International Airport,; what is the Sangster Airport was expanded from a similar
state to be the major Airport which has continued to this day..People in rural areas were helped in transforming wattle and daub residences
into solid wood and concrete residences...agriculture especially of foodstuff took on a scientific outlook where special areas such as
Guys Hill and Christiana were identified as best for Irish potatoes and St. Elizabeth became the real bread basket of the country where irrigation
played a significant aid to humble farming communities. Cultivation of rice took on more importance in areas of the south such as Westmoreland.
All these changes were buit on and improved by the new JLP govt in the formative years of Independence but they never got aound
to instilling discipline in the people as part of the PNP programme ,never instituted was to have military service/training for most 18 and older
youth as this was one of the keynotes of the then PNPYO which petitioned for the voting age to be dropped to 18. But having lost governorship
this was instituted by a JLP administration to their benefit as that party akin to the USA republican party was always lesser in numbers than
the PNP for decades. Jamaica becoming a republic was high on the list of the NWM party also and he disavowed ever accepting any British
Honours although it is believed that he recommended Busta's honour of 'Sir" while refusing his own in 1955.
Norman Manley being an avid sports person did not neglect Sports either. As one of the top 100m runner in the World even as JC schoolboy he also refused
to be part of the UK Olympic team in early 1900s.
If I remember correctly, Kingston's tranbsportation was transford from private bus ownerhips to a Jamaica Omnibus service to meet the growing needs and
bringing better more efficient service to a grfowing City with 24 hour service too from the new Industrial aread between 3 mile and 6 miles with a route that ended
beyond Harbour View.
Youngsters like myself who were exposed to such deeds by NWM have never lost sight of what it means to be a nationalist and while the Colonialist power
had us 'singing 'rule britania' while in elementary school we revelled in singing 'we are out to build a new jamaica' Jamaica is an island in the Caribbean
Sea etc. I still do out of habit sometimes.
I am blessed to have been born and raised in what I believe were the best days of jamaica when we fought with our hands and three pebbles at an
'enemy' and use a shaped wooden Gig,use a sling shot for bird hunting and hunt the streams and rivers for shrimp and having feasts at the river banks
and enjoying times on mango hunts or eating Cactus fruits that were prevalent in parts of Maxfield Park a part of which became one of my elementary
school Rousseau elementary.
When the guns became a game changer,that's when the Era of a better Jamaica went on the rocks. There was visionary leadership for the country
by the PNP from 1955 to 1962 in gradually moving the Island on a path to eradicate hardships on all people .
I prefer to speak about that era. We created a unique flag, Black,Green and Gold with a black Hoist. Today I see a flag being paraded on the International
stage such as Olympics as well as domestically ..even at Sabina Park, with black ,gold and Green with a White hoist. That is not Jamaica.
When I read of corruption and a leader with double digit financial accounts and no accountability, this is not my Jamaica.
Was your question answered ?
Does it matter though ? trump has now become King of Planet Earth
When I speak about Jamaica, I prefer to reference the 50s and 60s. A mixed
era of accomplishment and tragic turn to violence ..
Accomplishment and transformation came about under the PNP, the Party of Hero
NW Manley assumed leadership and pursuit of its main aim, Self Government
mooted since founding in 1938 began to take root..education ,agriculture, Industry,housing
were put on a pedestal and the social mores uprooted and we were a shining light
to the rest of the region...
The JLP under who took the first steps by winning the fist two terms under Adult suffrage
from 1944, had a leader Bustamante who was famous for touting Salt fish over education.
However, the Manley party was totally side tracked by a Federation which became its downfall
as the British imposed entity was immensely unpopular with the Jamaican people who fort the
first time Emancipation began to assert themselves and were far happier as a people as they saw
real progress and rewarded Manley with a huge increase at the polls of 1959.
Eventually, outflanked by the Street smart cousin Busta, Manley's referendum on Federation
brought him a humiliating defeat. And to complete his demise Manley called a general election which was
not due till 1964 as he moved to achieve Independence in 1962,and suffered an even more
humiliating defeat as he mortgaged his own wonderful home to meet expenses for the election as well as a
the wonderful Drumblair home too leaving the JLP which never had Independence on its radar
to lead the country and by 1965 a rising Seaga's advance in the party, brought gun culture to the
Nation and his rhetoric in a 'Blood for Blood fire for fire ' outburst at what became Heroes Park ceremony
became the bedrock and genesis for violence that remains today.
Although the JLP continued some of the plans and projects in development laid out by the PNP, the
Country's path veered from sound social development and economic integrity to instability in
too many critical reversals to progress except for Lightbourne's ministries , Trade and Industry,which also
embodied Tourism.
The failure to move the Jamaican people on a more progressive path resulted in a decade of Trials which
saw the rise of Michael Manley and his embrace of socialism led to his downfall as the USA dealt out
economic punishment that derailed the best intentions of a progressive government.
In summary the early to mid 60s were wonderful. Father Manley has laid a wonderful foundation an
Housing which was problematic saw Harbour View and Mona as examples and plans for a dormitory
entity at Portmore were also on the cards, The establishment of CAST, not Utech and expansion of
Practical Training centers PTC at Dinthill,Holmwood were establish to bring quality to the Youth
who missed out in gaining Places in traditional High Schools such as JC,KC, Wolmer's et al which
were transformed though 11 plus Exams for all children in the country in 1957 was a feature
of the social changes undertaken and which is still the foundation for better and higher standards
ion secondary education, It was revolutionary at the time.
In recalling some things in that 1955-62 era, I can't help but think of my late friend and mentor,Ewart Walters
who was so extra special on this MB in detailing Jamaica's history prior to 1938 and until the day of his passing.
But that 7 years remains the best time in Jamaica. The NWManley Airport was developed from an Aerodrome
at Palisadoes into a classy International Airport,; what is the Sangster Airport was expanded from a similar
state to be the major Airport which has continued to this day..People in rural areas were helped in transforming wattle and daub residences
into solid wood and concrete residences...agriculture especially of foodstuff took on a scientific outlook where special areas such as
Guys Hill and Christiana were identified as best for Irish potatoes and St. Elizabeth became the real bread basket of the country where irrigation
played a significant aid to humble farming communities. Cultivation of rice took on more importance in areas of the south such as Westmoreland.
All these changes were buit on and improved by the new JLP govt in the formative years of Independence but they never got aound
to instilling discipline in the people as part of the PNP programme ,never instituted was to have military service/training for most 18 and older
youth as this was one of the keynotes of the then PNPYO which petitioned for the voting age to be dropped to 18. But having lost governorship
this was instituted by a JLP administration to their benefit as that party akin to the USA republican party was always lesser in numbers than
the PNP for decades. Jamaica becoming a republic was high on the list of the NWM party also and he disavowed ever accepting any British
Honours although it is believed that he recommended Busta's honour of 'Sir" while refusing his own in 1955.
Norman Manley being an avid sports person did not neglect Sports either. As one of the top 100m runner in the World even as JC schoolboy he also refused
to be part of the UK Olympic team in early 1900s.
If I remember correctly, Kingston's tranbsportation was transford from private bus ownerhips to a Jamaica Omnibus service to meet the growing needs and
bringing better more efficient service to a grfowing City with 24 hour service too from the new Industrial aread between 3 mile and 6 miles with a route that ended
beyond Harbour View.
Youngsters like myself who were exposed to such deeds by NWM have never lost sight of what it means to be a nationalist and while the Colonialist power
had us 'singing 'rule britania' while in elementary school we revelled in singing 'we are out to build a new jamaica' Jamaica is an island in the Caribbean
Sea etc. I still do out of habit sometimes.
I am blessed to have been born and raised in what I believe were the best days of jamaica when we fought with our hands and three pebbles at an
'enemy' and use a shaped wooden Gig,use a sling shot for bird hunting and hunt the streams and rivers for shrimp and having feasts at the river banks
and enjoying times on mango hunts or eating Cactus fruits that were prevalent in parts of Maxfield Park a part of which became one of my elementary
school Rousseau elementary.
When the guns became a game changer,that's when the Era of a better Jamaica went on the rocks. There was visionary leadership for the country
by the PNP from 1955 to 1962 in gradually moving the Island on a path to eradicate hardships on all people .
I prefer to speak about that era. We created a unique flag, Black,Green and Gold with a black Hoist. Today I see a flag being paraded on the International
stage such as Olympics as well as domestically ..even at Sabina Park, with black ,gold and Green with a White hoist. That is not Jamaica.
When I read of corruption and a leader with double digit financial accounts and no accountability, this is not my Jamaica.
Was your question answered ?
Does it matter though ? trump has now become King of Planet Earth
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debut: 1/12/06
9,499 runs
In reply to natty_forever
Never voted in my life, but like you I lived most of my life under PNP government and only saw my country get progressively worse.
While I understand the history of both parties I wish Jamaicans would get through their thick forking skulls that this is NOT Joshua or his father's PNP!!
Never voted in my life, but like you I lived most of my life under PNP government and only saw my country get progressively worse.
While I understand the history of both parties I wish Jamaicans would get through their thick forking skulls that this is NOT Joshua or his father's PNP!!
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debut: 2/15/09
4,937 runs
In reply to natty_forever
In other words one party stabilise the economy one destabilise.
Look like you read all a dat to
In other words one party stabilise the economy one destabilise.
Look like you read all a dat to
debut: 11/13/02
64,423 runs
In reply to hubert
Thanks Hubie…appreciate the insight…
Here is the late, great Ewart Walters in his own words
Thanks Hubie…appreciate the insight…
Here is the late, great Ewart Walters in his own words
So, from six schools competing when Champs began in 1910, well over a hundred schools are now sending athletes to the National Stadium every Easter. But the credit for the National Stadium itself goes to Norman Manley, who suffered abuse for his decision to build it.
Word of the stadium generated excitement among the cricketing fraternity, which now expected that there would be a cricket field. They had long been angered by the treatment accorded George Headley and other black people at Sabina Park, the home of Kingston Cricket Club and the site of all Test matches in Jamaica.
Premier Manley took the proposal to the House of Representatives. Perhaps in his mind, this man of vision, this nation builder, he foresaw the possibilities when he inked instructions to build the National Stadium. He never named it after himself; never sought to name it the Norman Manley Stadium. The National Stadium it was, and that was in full keeping with his goal of building the Jamaican nation.
MERCILESS OPPOSITION
But JLP voices opposed it mercilessly, condemning him and the stadium idea, and voted against it. However, with the PNP majority, it was passed. Herbert MacDonald was assigned to take the word and make it flesh. Nevertheless, abetted by strikes, and perhaps oversensitive to the controversy in the House, MacDonald dithered, and the urgency faded from the national radar.
The strikes only ceased when A.D. Scott took over the contract. On February 5, 1962, six months before Independence, A.D. Scott Ltd joined C.J. Fox Construction Company to complete the building on time. Shortly after, the contractors suspended the work following an arbitration award of height pay to the workers. Fox withdrew and Scott took over responsibility for finishing the building. The National Stadium was completed in time, but the grandstand's cantilever roof was unpainted.
When the stadium was finally opened, it was only to discover that no provision had been made for cricket. But there it was, a National Stadium, thanks to Norman Manley's determination. It is well worth asking what might have been the fate of countless athletes if the National Stadium had not been built to become the Mecca of athletics in Jamaica.
Word of the stadium generated excitement among the cricketing fraternity, which now expected that there would be a cricket field. They had long been angered by the treatment accorded George Headley and other black people at Sabina Park, the home of Kingston Cricket Club and the site of all Test matches in Jamaica.
Premier Manley took the proposal to the House of Representatives. Perhaps in his mind, this man of vision, this nation builder, he foresaw the possibilities when he inked instructions to build the National Stadium. He never named it after himself; never sought to name it the Norman Manley Stadium. The National Stadium it was, and that was in full keeping with his goal of building the Jamaican nation.
MERCILESS OPPOSITION
But JLP voices opposed it mercilessly, condemning him and the stadium idea, and voted against it. However, with the PNP majority, it was passed. Herbert MacDonald was assigned to take the word and make it flesh. Nevertheless, abetted by strikes, and perhaps oversensitive to the controversy in the House, MacDonald dithered, and the urgency faded from the national radar.
The strikes only ceased when A.D. Scott took over the contract. On February 5, 1962, six months before Independence, A.D. Scott Ltd joined C.J. Fox Construction Company to complete the building on time. Shortly after, the contractors suspended the work following an arbitration award of height pay to the workers. Fox withdrew and Scott took over responsibility for finishing the building. The National Stadium was completed in time, but the grandstand's cantilever roof was unpainted.
When the stadium was finally opened, it was only to discover that no provision had been made for cricket. But there it was, a National Stadium, thanks to Norman Manley's determination. It is well worth asking what might have been the fate of countless athletes if the National Stadium had not been built to become the Mecca of athletics in Jamaica.
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debut: 4/28/03
60,795 runs
In reply to FanAttick
See how far back you have to go to find something good.
See how far back you have to go to find something good.
debut: 11/13/02
64,423 runs
In reply to natty_forever
As Bob Marley said..
If you know your history
Then you would know where you coming from
Then you wouldn't have to ask me
Who the heck do I think I am
I'm just a Buffalo Soldier
In the heart of America
Stolen from Africa, brought to America
Said he was fighting on arrival
Fighting for survival
See how far back you have to go to find something good.
As Bob Marley said..
If you know your history
Then you would know where you coming from
Then you wouldn't have to ask me
Who the heck do I think I am
I'm just a Buffalo Soldier
In the heart of America
Stolen from Africa, brought to America
Said he was fighting on arrival
Fighting for survival
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debut: 11/14/02
19,856 runs
In reply to natty_forever
Jamaica lost the plot...nowadays foreigners rule and the best beaches for
use by all are off limits to the Natives and even fisher folk are stressed daily and deprived of
their way of life and fighting for survival in their traditional existence.
That is one major despicable negative that rears a really ugly head.
Who owns the place ?
Jamaica lost the plot...nowadays foreigners rule and the best beaches for
use by all are off limits to the Natives and even fisher folk are stressed daily and deprived of
their way of life and fighting for survival in their traditional existence.
That is one major despicable negative that rears a really ugly head.
Who owns the place ?
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