Jomel Warrican't contribution after3 days

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If Kraig was the skipper, he would have 12 overs today

They have stats for this is certain sports in North America.

In Ice Hockey…….the # of goals scored against his team while a player is on the ice counts against their “plus/minus” stat. Similarly, # of goals scored by his team while the player is on the ice counts towards the same stat.

So far after 2 days, Warrican’s stats are in the negative for this test match.

No runs scored
No wickets
No deliveries
No catches
No run outs
No value


And he playing at his home ground.

Yet Sammy talkin about undroppables

Even when we have done well some ppl will not be pleased

In reply to hawk

Would have probably done better if his spot went to an extra batsman or another pacer.

An extra batsman would have definitely helped on this pitch.

In reply to anthonyp

That has merit, and inhindsight he is surplus to requirements in this instance but that is also no reason to criticize him, after all didn't he just won us our last test match??

In reply to hawk

In completely different conditions. He deserves to play when the conditions suit him. Not all the time, especially with Chase in the XI.

Even before the match started most on here were saying that the XI is not balanced, you don't need two spinners in Bim. But they made him VC so I guess he gotta play.

In reply to anthonyp

That extra batsman should be Imlach this freeing up Hooe from wicketkeeping duties. Imlach is the better keeper anyway

In reply to anthonyp


Except…….there is precedent for dropping the vice captain.

Unless…..there are other factors at play.

In reply to hawk


So his selection is above criticism then?

In reply to anthonyp

You seem not to understand, I am agreeing with you, he is clearly not needed in this test but he is playing and you cannot criticize him for being asked to play, he came in a night watchman it didn't work

If it was up to me no spinners would ever play regardless of conditions I believe in pace and more pace.

In reply to imusic

You can criticize his selection but not him
You can also see above

So stop the bellyaching and let's see where this lands, if we win what does it matter, maybe the next match would be different

In reply to imusic
Imlach may be the better keeper, but Shai played a straight drive and the cover drive and I could have leave the Oval.

This is a ridiculous thread, only slightly less ridiculous than that blasted third umpire

This pitch has a lot for the fast bowlers. We have three seriously good pacers, and one medium pacer who is doing the holding job.

How did Lyon who is vastly more experienced fare? Got one wicket when sealed, rather stupidly, decided to slog him with the fielder back on the boundary and alzarri going well at the other end

In reply to tc1

I’m not advocating that Imlach play instead of Shai Hope.

I’m saying he should play instead of Warrican

Glad you’re enjoying your time there

In reply to hawk

Can you imagine the outrage coming from some corners had let's say Motie was selected in the eleven and Chase not give him an over. The Conspiracy theorists would have had a field day. You simply cannot win for loosing sometimes.

Just to be clear I am not criticizing Warrican't. I am stating a fact.

In reply to NYCGURU

Absolutely I can imagine that, Chase would be accused of poor captaincy

After three days.
Zero Catches
Zero Run out
Zero Wicket
3 runs made
8 overs bowled
18 runs conceded

In reply to hawk



WE have done well in only one department: Bowling.

There is enough merit to criticize the fielding unit and especially the batting unit.
I sure as hell am one of those who have shown my displeasure.

All three units must work synergistically to effect some sort of positive outcome which for us fans is a win.

It is not Warrican's fault that we did not win.
There was very little use for him on a wicket that was aiding the pacers. Chase, however should have given him more overs in the second innings.

My beef with this team is their overall inability to think while batting or how to build an innings. Every single one of them.
The fact that we were bundled out in practically one session is a disgrace. This was like an assembly line.
No one with the exception of Shamar and Greaves stood out ion the second innings.

I do not see this team winning a single test after that performance.
Anything they do, Australia with all their faults, will do better.

In reply to embsallie

Yes....the bowling was topnotch, nothing to say except well done, I am not going to single out anyone, as I thought they did well as a unit

Agreement on our fielding, it was poor and did not support the bowling. Improvement will be required if we are to make Australia nervous.

Our batting was again disappointing, an extra batter would have been a better choice, and yes Warrican sits in such an instance. A decision I am sure they are now regretting.
We seem unable to bat ourselves out of trouble and always seem to lose a wicket at a time when we cannot afford to. but keep in mind Australia has good bowling and is far better than the West Indies as a team. but we were also the victims of bad umpiring, I think it was done on purpose



unlike you however, I am backing them to improve and challenge Australia, even if we lose I want us to play good cricket and not just gift Australia the win, if we can do this, maybe we can even win the series 2-1, stranger things have happened.

The main issue is Scammy seems to have a plan.

You cannot plan around unsure wicket preparation.
Who knew that the wicket would have been pacer-friendly?
With the exception of St. Lucia, where are the pacer friendly guaranteed pitches?

Next game may be on a spin friendly pitch.
I cannot blame Scammy with the uncertainty of Bim pitch.

The unbalance in this team is Braffit.

Replace him with Imlach and let another of the 11 open.
King can open with Campbell.
I say, play Campnell the whole series and if he fails, drop his ass fa good.
Braffit needs to go NOW.
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In reply to TanteMerle

Agree with everything you said with one exception.

If the wicket is not pacer friendly our bowlers are going to have to toil harder to get twenty wickets, which is what we need to ensure a win.
That also means Australia, weak as the batting is, are more likely to put runs on the board.

On any given day, notwithstanding the state of the wicket, our batsmen are not consistent enough in putting good scores together.
I am rooting for the guys, but I would hate to see them put our bowlers through that heartache again.
There used to be times where we could barely take ten wickets, let alone twenty.

We have now come to expect that from these group of bowlers because time and again they deliver.
The batting needs to show up now and consistently in order to put Australia under pressure.
That performance yesterday does not give me a lot of faith.

In reply to TanteMerle

Next tes greaves should open with Brathwaite, King and Campbell, at 5& 6.. same team.