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anthonyp 6/27/25, 9:30:58 PM
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debut: 11/2/09
12,995 runs

Sammy hand picked batsmen are very special...

Its like dem fellas prefer to spend time in the dressing room next to the greatest coach instead of in the middle lol
SnoopDog 6/27/25, 9:32:53 PM
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debut: 1/24/04
16,411 runs

In reply to anthonyp

Does this team have a specialist batting coach?

Or is it Scammy?

Not that it matters anyways.
brians_da_best 6/27/25, 9:33:29 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
19,177 runs

In reply to SnoopDog

Floyd Riefer
SnoopDog 6/27/25, 9:34:06 PM
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debut: 1/24/04
16,411 runs

In reply to brians_da_best

Floyd Riefer


Oye Vey!!

Ah done.
ray 6/27/25, 9:37:20 PM
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debut: 2/7/03
24,080 runs

Instead of going with the guys that performed in FC...oh well
voiceofreason 6/27/25, 9:38:32 PM
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debut: 1/20/04
91,760 runs

In reply to ray

We have been going with those guys from Fc for the better part of 2 decades and where has that gotten us? You guys are myopic thinkers.
Joshua 6/27/25, 9:42:23 PM
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debut: 4/1/08
36,254 runs

In reply to voiceofreason

Everywhere in the world teams choose their best performers from the first class tournament. The reason for our poor performance over the years is not because of selecting performers from first class competition it’s that our cricket structure is weak and there is a small pool of quality players.

Choosing players from so called white ball is just trying to paper over those cracks.
anthonyp 6/27/25, 9:47:16 PM
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debut: 11/2/09
12,995 runs

In reply to SnoopDog

Here's the managemen team... management team almost big as the de squad.

Team Manager Unit:

Head Coach: Daren Sammy

Assistant Coach (Batting): Floyd Reifer

Assistant Coach (Bowling): Ravi Rampaul

Assistant Coach (Fielding): Rayon Griffith

Team Manager: Rawl Lewis

Physiotherapist: Dr. Denis Byam

Strength & Conditioning Coach: Ronald Rogers

Massage Therapist: Darc Browne

Team Analyst: Avenesh Seetaram

Content& Media Officer: Jerome Foster
JoeGrine 6/27/25, 9:48:17 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
4,964 runs

In reply to voiceofreason

We have been going with those guys from Fc for the better part of 2 decades and where has that gotten us?


You are the very same one who when you crying for Jamar Hamilton you cite his first class performance. Now you need to defend your idol then first class performance is myopic.

This is the problem one runs into when bias, which leads to injustice, and parochialism are at your core.
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ray 6/27/25, 9:49:33 PM
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debut: 2/7/03
24,080 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

VOR is Sammy's bitch
anthonyp 6/27/25, 9:52:14 PM
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debut: 11/2/09
12,995 runs

In reply to voiceofreason

Yep, top performers such as DaSilva, Imlach, Kevlon etc. failing in the test squad to decades.

King, Chase and the others are world beaters.
granite 6/27/25, 9:55:54 PM
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debut: 11/1/13
14,607 runs

Maybe picking the best performers in our first class season wasn't coming up with the players they really wanted.
voiceofreason 6/27/25, 9:56:21 PM
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debut: 1/20/04
91,760 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

Again let me expound in detail for you. First class performance CANNOT be the ONLY criteria for selection.

If Sammy is going to try a different approach at least give it TIME to work before you CRITICIZE.
voiceofreason 6/27/25, 9:57:51 PM
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debut: 1/20/04
91,760 runs

In reply to granite

Maybe picking the best performers in our first class season wasn't coming up with the players they really wanted.


BINGO we got a winner! However we cannot totally disregard FC performers but we cannot say that this should be the only criteria for selection.
voiceofreason 6/27/25, 10:05:23 PM
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debut: 1/20/04
91,760 runs

In reply to Joshua

Everywhere in the world teams choose their best performers from the first class tournament. The reason for our poor performance over the years is not because of selecting performers from first class competition it’s that our cricket structure is weak and there is a small pool of quality players.


So i f there is a small pool of quality players and the FC structure is weak should we just continue only selecting poor quality players from that weak structure. Everywhere in the world does not have the same issues with FC that you are alluding to. I am all for strengthening that structure but in the meantime we must remain competitive and if that means bringing a few white ball specialists then so be it. However I would say that they need to play FC cricket as well which Hope, King and Chase all showed up for their respective FC teams.

Btw how can you all cast judgment based on one match when most of the batsmen failed miserably?

Quit being premature and allow the decision time to work.
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anthonyp 6/27/25, 10:08:04 PM
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debut: 11/2/09
12,995 runs

So what's the criteria Sammy using to select players?

Since FC performances don't count.. what is he using?
JoeGrine 6/27/25, 10:09:59 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
4,964 runs

In reply to voiceofreason

Let me expound for you. You are the proprietor of selective reasoning. When it suits you, you come up in here waxing logic. Your logic is self-serving, a function of you being the most biased, parochial, and hypocritical poster the board has ever had. Just a few weeks a go you cry for Hamilton and touted his FC performance, now to please your idol (others posited another type of relationship) you come talking about other than FC performance.

Carry on.
Joshua 6/27/25, 10:11:26 PM
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debut: 4/1/08
36,254 runs

You are missing the point it’s not about not giving things time to work. We will struggle regardless with some intermittent highs because we don’t have quality.

The point is we don’t have a selection problem in our cricket we have a small pool of quality players and anything we do to try improve the senior team is just papering over the cracks.

I still haven’t seen a coherent plan addressing how they plan to strengthen grassroots, schools and club cricket.
PalsofMine 6/27/25, 10:13:17 PM
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debut: 2/2/23
2,180 runs

Normal service has been resumed. We competed for 2 days in our strongest suit: fastbowling.
voiceofreason 6/27/25, 10:21:51 PM
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debut: 1/20/04
91,760 runs

In reply to anthonyp

All three players showed up for FC season but they did not do anything of note. Even before that Hope and King had already signed multi year/ multi format contracts which should have suggested the change in approach by the Administration. Hope in particular averages close to 50 in ODI cricket and many have called for his return to Test cricket. Many more accomplished than you an I when it comes to cricket. I am for Hope returning to the setup.

King averages much less in ODI cricket 25 so it must be his FC Ave 35 that has him there. Personally I was not for King as I do not think he is mentally or technically strong enough for any cricket much less Test cricket.
JoeGrine 6/27/25, 10:22:39 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
4,964 runs

In reply to Joshua

You are missing the point it’s not about not giving things time to work.


You do realize this is a euphemism for "do not go hard on sammy"
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Conorboy 6/27/25, 10:24:55 PM
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debut: 2/21/17
718 runs

In reply to voiceofreason

There is nothing different with going with the players who left us down so bloody often in the past. Dropping Da Silva was a disgraceful decision. He was the inspirational figure on the pitch.
Selecting 2 spinners as captain and vice captain was plain idiotic as neither had any proven history.
We should have taken belief and team selection from the last test victory over OZ. The bowling was fine but the batting line up was a mess on paper and so it proved on the pitch.
embsallie 6/27/25, 10:25:31 PM
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debut: 1/15/09
5,496 runs

In reply to anthonyp

I see "Massage" and "Physio", but no other therapists.
You would think they would need a Head shrink after that performance.
Hopefully the batting and fielding coaches lose their jobs.
voiceofreason 6/27/25, 10:27:39 PM
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debut: 1/20/04
91,760 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

Just a few weeks a go you cry for Hamilton and touted his FC performance, now to please your idol (others posited another type of relationship) you come talking about other than FC performance.


In regards to the Hamilton non-selection this was in response to the multiple Joshua Dasilva threads which made me point out he was not the only one snubbed. Hamilton has been snubbed for all his career.

Your logic is self-serving, a function of you being the most biased, parochial, and hypocritical poster the board has ever had.


Appreciate the compliment.
Speed100 6/27/25, 10:29:22 PM
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debut: 8/30/23
388 runs

In reply to voiceofreason

They won in Australia and Pak
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