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Has KB got the lowest.....??

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Seechy 7/3/25, 11:35:06 AM
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debut: 1/30/09
1,919 runs

In reply to CCW

In reply to your query:

can you dissect further his average after 50 test?....cause batsmen get better with age/experience to a "point" whereby if you dissected their whole career their stats are usually better in the 2nd half than the 1st as they perfect their game an learn the art of batsmanship....just seems to me KB has got worse which apart from having the lowest ave he would qualify as being the biggest dunce!!!


From age 18 to 25, i.e. when KB played his first 50 matches, he scored 3311 runs at an average of 35.22, with 8 100s and 17 50s.
From age 26 to 32, i.e. when KB played his last 50 matches, he scored 2632 runs at an average of 30.25, with 4 100s and 12 50s.

So, it is clear that Kraigg has digressed in the second half of his career, although not significantly.
CCW 7/3/25, 1:13:14 PM
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debut: 6/3/24
202 runs

In reply to Seechy

Well the stats tell the story an i suspected as much but thanks for the research.....the thing is what to do with him...on balance i wouldn't discard him just yet against the best bowling attack in the world let him soak up some more punishment an see how he goes an then maybe try somebody else against a lesser attack in our next series.....wouldn't it be great if he could confound all of us an celebrate his 100th cap with a century....an then i woke up!!��
TanteMerle 7/3/25, 1:13:20 PM
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debut: 2/22/04
8,837 runs

In reply to hawk

We really hate KB that much


Don't you think that the hatred is well earned by Braffit.

Not even a sensible Bajan can defend Braffit nonsense.

As Bajans would say, 'Braffit is Bare Boo'.
You can substitute the word boo for a stronger word.
As a Christian, I cannot post those words.
Blackbird 7/3/25, 5:29:18 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
2,784 runs

In reply to Prako

The celebration of Craig's 100th is a bittersweet moment for me. It's an anniversary of a death. Its hard for our generation to honestly say well done to 100 test at an average of 32 for a opener who has now faced the most balls for a WI batsman in test.

it's like inheriting a fortune 500 company and celebrating the sales of a one-door shop.
Chrissy 7/3/25, 7:53:12 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
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In reply to CCW
Duh!
XDFIX 7/3/25, 8:08:09 PM
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debut: 3/2/03
18,475 runs

In reply to Seechy

Anybody higher than KB in the averages of 35.22 and 30.25 - in the words of Donald Trump - Sad!
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hawk 7/3/25, 9:42:59 PM
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debut: 4/1/07
4,635 runs

In reply to Blackbird and natty_forever

Absolutely it is hate,

@natty_forever some of stats can be appreciated as well.

he may be a very limited batter, but he was still good enough to make ICC team of the year 2022 and also has the best test average in a calendar year for all opening batsman. he has centuries against all major nations excluding India (Afghanistan and Ireland not mentioned among major)

the standard is lower, much much lower, he is nowhere near as skilled as his predecessors, that being said he is still the best test opening batsmen of his time and while not as good as the greats his name will be mentioned among them.
hawk 7/3/25, 9:47:53 PM
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debut: 4/1/07
4,635 runs

In reply to TanteMerle

I am a devout Christian and certainly will not be substituting any words, how can you even say someone has earned hatred, he used what he had to get where he is, even if what he had wasn't much, the sad reality is that no one truly challenged him for his spot on the team, every other opener has been worst than him

he should respected for whatever little contribution he has made to West Indies Test Cricket especially in an era when others refused to represent us.
JoeGrine 7/3/25, 11:52:01 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
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In reply to hawk

while not as good as the greats his name will be mentioned among them


To avoid labeling this an oxymoron, let me ask you this, mentioned as?

I have a problem reconciling a statement like - - "Bernard Julien (easily one of my top 10 favorites of all time) while not as good as the greats his name will be mentioned among them"

So mentioned as what exactly among the greats?
hawk 7/4/25, 12:42:13 AM
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debut: 4/1/07
4,635 runs

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I am surprised I have to spell this out and I will let you answer the question below which will answer your question

List all west indians who has played 100 test matches
sudden 7/4/25, 12:52:23 AM
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debut: 11/27/06
54,282 runs

in the territories of shoite cricketers Bobo played a 100 tests
PalsofMine 7/4/25, 12:58:24 AM
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debut: 2/2/23
2,182 runs

In reply to Seechy

interesting that Clive Lloyd has the lowest number of ducks among that crowd and also that Shiv and Kallis played basically the same number of matches but Kallis made 2000 more runs
natty_forever 7/4/25, 1:43:06 AM
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debut: 4/28/03
60,883 runs

Scenario: KB averages over 50 in the match and anchors us to Victory, what then? big grin
JoeGrine 7/4/25, 2:38:17 AM
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debut: 2/15/09
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List all west indians who has played 100 test matches


There are greats who never played 100 Test matches.

Mentioned as what?
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