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Lara didn't hesitate to break Sir Gary's 365

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Curtis 7/8/25, 2:58:21 PM
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Different strokes
Walco 7/8/25, 3:13:17 PM
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In reply to Curtis

I got a call from someone who is a huge Lara fan yesterday who said the same thing. And I don't think Sir Garry had any hard feelings after his record was broken either ...
Walco 7/8/25, 3:19:25 PM
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By the way, Lara thinks Jaiswal is the current player most likely to break his record.
Castled 7/8/25, 3:23:39 PM
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In reply to Curtis

lol
imusic 7/8/25, 3:33:57 PM
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In reply to Walco

Lara wrong.

That would be Gill
Walco 7/8/25, 3:55:51 PM
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In reply to imusic

I suspect the thinking behind Jaiswal over Gill is that Jaiswal scores faster. I think Gill is a strong candidate as well. IIRC Lara's strike rate for the 400 was around 70.
imusic 7/8/25, 3:58:15 PM
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In reply to Walco

Mulder’s was around 90 something right?

Remarkable
SnoopDog 7/8/25, 4:00:25 PM
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In reply to Walco

I think Lara had predicted that either one of Gayle or Sehwag would break 400 record.

Both got to triples but couldn't carry on.

Of this generation of batters I would have Harry Brook at the top of the pile. The only problem is that Stokes and Baz might declare on him since they don't fcuk around - team over individual.
Walco 7/8/25, 4:01:23 PM
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In reply to imusic

I just checked and Mulder's strike rate was 109 shock Dat man was playing ODI cricket in a test match.

When did Mulder become a batsman? I always thought he was a bowling allrounder, but he batted at #3 in this match
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SnoopDog 7/8/25, 4:05:49 PM
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When did Mulder become a batsman?


When he faced Zimbabwe bowlers on a flat pitch. lol
NYCGURU 7/8/25, 4:54:27 PM
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In reply to Walco

Actually he batted at # 3 in the world Test championship final against Australia.
StumpCam 7/8/25, 4:59:02 PM
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In reply to Walco

Actually, in an interview with Shaun Pollock, Mulder said he went to England and worked out some kinks in his batting. Guess it paid off!
Jumpstart 7/8/25, 5:03:49 PM
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In reply to Walco

jaiswal is a better batsman than gill from a technical standpoint. he can succeed of tough wickets. Gill, firstly, is not a big mover of his feet and that will limit you in test cricket all the time. we saw how that was exploited both during the visit of new zealand last year and australia tour. if he's presented with a flat wicket and mediocre bowling like this series, sure, its possible, but the big countries like nz, south africa and australia will present a totally different challenge
imusic 7/8/25, 5:07:36 PM
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In reply to Walco

I just checked and Mulder's strike rate was 109 shock Dat man was playing ODI cricket in a test match.

Jeezas!

But it again provides more evidence of how much the game is changing, and has already changed.

So many people are mired in a paradigm regarding how test match cricket should be played that has long since passed.

The PACE of test match cricket has quickened considerably. And it’s for the better. Attrition cricket is now for the rare occasion only when conditions merit it. Emphasis on scoring, and scoring quickly at that is now the norm.

Which is why I endorse Sammy’s approach to selection for test cricket. If we’re not the last team to adopt white ball cricketers into the test match team, we’re one of the last.

Going back to Mulder’s innings……the remarkable part of it is that he kept that strike rate up for the duration. Well done!
Brerzerk 7/8/25, 6:20:41 PM
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Lara was not capt when he broke the 365 record. The capt., team, whole WI and cricketing world was happy to see him break it. Once apparent he would Sobers was flown to Antigua to share the moment. Don't forget he walked out to hug the prince.
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Jumpstart 7/8/25, 6:24:52 PM
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In reply to imusic

But it again provides more evidence of how much the game is changing, and has already changed.

So many people are mired in a paradigm regarding how test match cricket should be played that has long since passed.

not sure about that. zim is a glorified first class team. when lara made 501, his his SR was 117. but you could be correct.
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imusic 7/8/25, 6:34:50 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

England’s run rate in the 1st test against India was just under 5 RPO in both innings.

I know you not suggesting that India is a glorified first class team. Or even that they playing on roads in England.
Walco 7/8/25, 6:43:22 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog
I forgot about Harry Brook. He's another candidate
Jumpstart 7/8/25, 6:43:39 PM
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In reply to imusic

they are playing on roads in england....against a mediocre bowling attack to boot. England's philosophy since the 2023 ashes are to prepare flat, fasts wickets, as explained by Ben Stokes. this is the same team that was whitewashed last year at home by nz for the first time in 24 years, and then again struggled in australia, with only jaiswal and bumrah making solid accounts of themselves(prior to this tour, gill was averaging under 40 and scoring only 93 runs in 5 innings)
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Walco 7/8/25, 6:52:10 PM
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I welcome the transformation of test cricket. I have never been a believer in attrition cricket. Too boring and it seldom works on challenging surfaces or conditions.
DirtyDan 7/8/25, 7:29:00 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

Lara was not capt when he broke the 365 record. The capt., team, whole WI and cricketing world was happy to see him break it. Once apparent he would Sobers was flown to Antigua to share the moment. Don't forget he walked out to hug the prince.


Matt Hayden did not want to beat the Don's score either with his triple

The Truth is the reverence that Mulder felt about Lara's record, Lara did not feel that same reverence towards Sir Gary's, in a meaningless match
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Brerzerk 7/8/25, 8:29:03 PM
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Records are made to be broken. I think the cricketing world felt the time was ripe for that world record to be broken. Different situation (national) reply Hayden/Bradman.
Walco 7/8/25, 9:02:30 PM
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In reply to NYCGURU

Thanks. I was not aware of that. Interestingly Sobers was a bowling allrounder before his first century, which was 365*
Walco 7/8/25, 9:11:24 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

Lara was not capt when he broke the 365 record.

If I was Lara and my captain tried to declare when I had a chance for a world record, the captain would have had to come on the field and drag me off. By the way, I know that the the captain decides when to declare, but don't the players in the middle have to inform the umpires of the declaration?
Curtis 7/8/25, 9:41:18 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

Records are made to be broken. I think the cricketing world felt the time was ripe for that world record to be broken. Different situation (national) reply Hayden/Bradman.


Arguably, Lara would have come across as a humble saint and hero if he tied the 365 and retired.
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