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debut: 5/14/05
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In reply to FanAttick
What a groundsman sees as hallowed turf, some may see as an outdoor ablutions block.
What a groundsman sees as hallowed turf, some may see as an outdoor ablutions block.
debut: 8/24/03
1,751 runs
In reply to FanAttick
Could all of this be because the likkle coolie bwois dem refuse to bow down to massa?
Could all of this be because the likkle coolie bwois dem refuse to bow down to massa?
debut: 2/14/03
6,381 runs
In reply to CricSham
Exactly. If Massa had stood his ground like this, there would have been praises.
Exactly. If Massa had stood his ground like this, there would have been praises.

debut: 11/14/02
201,990 runs
In reply to CricSham
The caste system in India is no different. That’s exactly how Gambhir would talk to a groundsman in India.
Dis cakaroach nuh bizniz wid fowl fight.
The caste system in India is no different. That’s exactly how Gambhir would talk to a groundsman in India.
Dis cakaroach nuh bizniz wid fowl fight.
debut: 11/13/02
64,570 runs
In reply to CricSham
That could have been true except that Gambhir explicitly said that his refusal to follow orders wasn’t because it was Massa but because Massa is only a groundskeeper…..
Gambhir would have jumped through hoops for a higher statured Massa…
Could all of this be because the likkle coolie bwois dem refuse to bow down to massa?
That could have been true except that Gambhir explicitly said that his refusal to follow orders wasn’t because it was Massa but because Massa is only a groundskeeper…..
Gambhir would have jumped through hoops for a higher statured Massa…
debut: 8/24/03
1,751 runs
In reply to FanAttick and Chrissy
I cannot disagree with you. In fact, it’s interesting that they hired Ten Doscathe??? (I might have the spelling wrong) as the assistant bowling coach. Are we to believe that there are no quality bowling coaches/former bowlers in India? But they would not listen to one of their own but they would to a foreigner. We saw the same with the West Indies team as well a few years ago.
I cannot disagree with you. In fact, it’s interesting that they hired Ten Doscathe??? (I might have the spelling wrong) as the assistant bowling coach. Are we to believe that there are no quality bowling coaches/former bowlers in India? But they would not listen to one of their own but they would to a foreigner. We saw the same with the West Indies team as well a few years ago.
debut: 1/4/03
267,287 runs
In reply to FanAttick
Forbes Burnham in de days would call it functional superiority.
That could have been true except that Gambhir explicitly said that his refusal to follow orders wasn’t because it was Massa but because Massa is only a groundskeeper…
Forbes Burnham in de days would call it functional superiority.
debut: 1/4/03
267,287 runs
In reply to Chrissy
Nor is CLASS system in UK and in other developed countries
The caste system in India is no different.
Nor is CLASS system in UK and in other developed countries
debut: 6/9/17
1,841 runs
this thread is a tad confusing
usually it's seen as a revo stance to stand up to massa
what's different here and why
usually it's seen as a revo stance to stand up to massa
what's different here and why
debut: 6/9/17
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In reply to Narper
Damn straight, in every Caribbean country
The caste system in India is no different.
Nor is CLASS system in UK and in other developed countries
Damn straight, in every Caribbean country
debut: 2/27/05
33,477 runs
In reply to FanAttick
I dont like Gambir for 1 second but the Englishman was wrong here. Tried to treat Gambir like a citizen of the British Empire
I dont like Gambir for 1 second but the Englishman was wrong here. Tried to treat Gambir like a citizen of the British Empire
debut: 5/14/05
24,813 runs
In reply to cricketmygame
Groundmen are quite protective of their turf. They are a different breed. They treat it more than just a job. Not like Ralphie.
Groundmen are quite protective of their turf. They are a different breed. They treat it more than just a job. Not like Ralphie.
debut: 8/24/03
1,751 runs
In reply to Chrissy
One can easily get carried away with the Groundsman and Gambir flareup that obfuscate the real issue. That was only symptomatic of the underlying issue throughout the series.
After losing the first test, India came back strong to win the second test. England did not expect that. Then expected them to fold. Before the third test,Harry Brook told the team “we are too nice”. That’s a direct quote. England came back aggressively and won the third though the Indians made it tougher than it should’ve been.
But the real salt in the wound was when the Indians draw the 4th after 150+ overs in the field, facing a deficit of 300+ and losing two wickets in the first over with five sessions left to play.
The likkle coolie bhai them were supposed to roll over and they didn’t and that’s what pissed them off no end with the subsequent handshake gate.
One can easily get carried away with the Groundsman and Gambir flareup that obfuscate the real issue. That was only symptomatic of the underlying issue throughout the series.
After losing the first test, India came back strong to win the second test. England did not expect that. Then expected them to fold. Before the third test,Harry Brook told the team “we are too nice”. That’s a direct quote. England came back aggressively and won the third though the Indians made it tougher than it should’ve been.
But the real salt in the wound was when the Indians draw the 4th after 150+ overs in the field, facing a deficit of 300+ and losing two wickets in the first over with five sessions left to play.
The likkle coolie bhai them were supposed to roll over and they didn’t and that’s what pissed them off no end with the subsequent handshake gate.
debut: 5/19/07
1,880 runs
Should the coach not stand up for his team? Arrogant personality yes but was it wrong to disagree/object/push back?

debut: 11/14/02
201,990 runs
And now di groundsman (di weather boss) who is English will decide how wet di outfield is…
with ABE leading 2-1
with ABE leading 2-1

debut: 5/14/05
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In reply to CricSham
I think you’re bringing in some unnecessary baggage here with the c….bhai references
It’s India, it’s cricket and it’s Gambhir- the coaching equivalent of a Koli
Does Not Apply
I think you’re bringing in some unnecessary baggage here with the c….bhai references
It’s India, it’s cricket and it’s Gambhir- the coaching equivalent of a Koli
Does Not Apply
debut: 5/1/21
2,642 runs
In reply to Chrissy
It’s ABE for you except when Indians involved ehh lol you know it’s the white man that created the caste system just like they created Christianity right???
Anyways the actual issue is India runs cricket due to their market share and the English can’t stand it!!! Not to mention Gambhir is just an arrogant asshole nothing to do with Caste and Massa no wonder WI is where they are our people are still stuck in the 70’s with their ideology and thinking!!!
It’s ABE for you except when Indians involved ehh lol you know it’s the white man that created the caste system just like they created Christianity right???
Anyways the actual issue is India runs cricket due to their market share and the English can’t stand it!!! Not to mention Gambhir is just an arrogant asshole nothing to do with Caste and Massa no wonder WI is where they are our people are still stuck in the 70’s with their ideology and thinking!!!
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debut: 11/13/02
13,496 runs
Gambir overcompensates…same in the IPL Virat spat.
The England coach was allowed to walk all over the same pitch without objection.
India is not the same from last century. That ‘Coolie’ reference is still relevant however not impactful with this generation.
Cricket this great game can reveal a lot about how the world is turning.
Even that ‘slumdog millionaire’ headline is chock full of colonial mentality-unintended or not.
The England coach was allowed to walk all over the same pitch without objection.
India is not the same from last century. That ‘Coolie’ reference is still relevant however not impactful with this generation.
Cricket this great game can reveal a lot about how the world is turning.
Even that ‘slumdog millionaire’ headline is chock full of colonial mentality-unintended or not.
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