So why didn't Hope open

He needs to face the majority of the balls in a 20 over match. Too many dumb decisions

this captaincy thing bigger than Hope.

In reply to methodic

I think this caused the issue with Pooran and is probably the reason why he decided to walk away from international cricket.

Hope is hell bent on batting at 3 or 4.... he does not want to open the batting.

That middle order should be for guys like Pooran, Hety, Powell and Rutherford.

Hope role in the team should be to open and try to bat through the inning.

In reply to anthonyp

Ok, Pooran will come back. Sammy and Hope as a combo is the worst we ever had

In reply to anthonyp

Come on....thats silly and would make Pooran seem extremely silly. Hope opened in the Oz matches when there were other options. They lost all the matches. Not surprising they would try different tactics and that with a weakened middle order Hope would go down one to look to stabilize it. Maybe the tactics were wrongheaded or undermined by the pedestrian start by the 2 openers. That can be debated. But why resort to schoolyard theories?

In reply to anthonyp

Hope was not t2o captain when pooran was playing in fact he couldn't even make the team.

Move down in a 20 over match??? More often than not when you have one position fixed and then you move that person from that position to fix another position; then both positions end up compromised.

Hope in his post-match interview explained why he did not open. They did not want to have Andrew batting in the middle order dealing with the Pakistan spinners, they thought he would have gotten bogged down.

In reply to anthonyp

check Hope's avg and Sr in t20 and then tell me who should bat where.

In reply to tc1

Here you go... his T20I stats by batting positions

Opener
- Opened 29 times
- avg. 30.44
- s/r 153.11

#3
- batted there 8 times
- avg. 25.62
- s/r 122.75

#4
- batted there 10 times
- avg. 28.57
- s/r 119.04

Yep, based on those numbers he should definitely bat in the middle order!

In reply to anthonyp

Let used Hety numbers :
@#3 114.21
@ #4 138.61
@#5 122.81
Now tell me who should bat where according to your statement.

In reply to tc1

Really don't see the relevance... but based on those numbers Hety should be batting at #4.

However we're discussing a position that Hope has clearly been successful in... so why de rass is he fighting down to bat in a position that he's not?

Why are they trying to fix something that is not broken? Does that make sense to you?

In reply to anthonyp

r[br]eally don't see the relevance... but based on those numbers Hety should be batting at #4.


Hope is more suited to bat at 3, 4 or 5 as the data indicated, maybe you don't understand your premise .

In reply to tc1

If you are the best batsman in the team you try to face as much balls as possible. That means you should open and try to bat through the innings. When the spinners come on he will be already in versus when he comes in and the spinners are on and he has to take time to get in. Scoring a hundred batting number 1 and then going down the order to counter something in the middle overs cannot be progressive thinking. This is only one in a series of poor decisions by Hope and Sammy. As much as I admire the both of them and can appreciate as a sportsman their trials and accomplishments, they both don't seem suited for their current positions of leadership. 27 in a test innings and losing 5 nil in t20 are not accidents or misfortune; it is evidence that things are at an all time low and it has been expedited by the decision making of Sammy and Hope.

In reply to methodic

I suspect it was more of a Sammy's decision than Hope for him not to open the batting.

In reply to tc1



Which data? Test those eyes champ. The data shows you're getting the most out of him when he opens. Or is this Bajan logics?

In reply to anthonyp

I would agree with you Hope is productive at #1, However when you introduce Hety , Pooran and Powell, it changes your premise, as Hope outperformed Hety at 3 and 5

Did you know who are in the u19 team to play next week ?

In reply to methodic

You made some good points, Lewis and King are the regular T20 openers, Hope opened when Lewis was not available. I am guessing that management felt that it was easier for the young inexperience 18-year-old to open the innings than to bat in the middle where your power hitting are more suited.

Against the Aussie WI posted some good scores but were unable to defend them because of poor bowling and fielding.

In reply to tc1

Bannuh... based on the stats Pooran deserves the #3 position.. #4 is fat boy for now and #5 or 6 is Powell or Sherfane.

Pooran s/r at #3 is 141.18 and he is averaging 31+.

I don't agree with Lewis and King being the openers that cemented their spots... based on the numbers both of them are very inconsistent at the top.. Hope numbers are far better.

Not sure about the U19 squad but I know the U17 tournament is starting soon. Hety nephew is in that squad

In reply to anthonyp

How good is Hetty nephew?

In reply to anthonyp

Mason said that 4 bajan youth is on the team a u19 tournament next week, but I have not seen any team for the games..
The u17 starts soon.