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Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 1:24 AM
In reply to hubert

that once prosperous Parish when Banana
was King and being shipped from Oracabessa and added to a coconut factory at nearby Jacks River that produced soap,oil and other things,
for years i spent my summers in Jacks River I used to go to that factory and pick up copra and swim in the nearby river and catch crayfish

I did not know you were a St Mary man
I know the area well from Jacks River to Port Maria , Days Mountain ,Hamilton mountain, Brooklyn, Dressikie , Kid Land and all the banana walks in between

walking between the banana walks at night with a bokkle lamp and listening to the elders telling duppy stories it was not for the faint hearted
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 10:45 AM
In reply to ponderiver
...listening to the elders telling duppy stories it was not for the faint hearted

You can say that again! A yute head use to grow big. LOL.

--Æ.
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 11:20 AM
In reply to 1Desiabnu
Do they count di scamming or car stealing?
The biggest miss shooting in years was last year.
Saturday night a Mobay cop, his wife and son were shot over a car deal. Wife and five year old dead - husband fighting fi life.
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 12:49 PM
In reply to ponderiver

Yes Sir. St Mary born and bred..the places you were all part of the stomping ground mainly through cricket as a youth..Hamilton Mountain
was THE iconic rivalry.I was born in Retreat same house ,same room as MLC Foster, different month, in Content, the build up (capital ) part of the district which stretched far across the Rio Nuevo
river into to the country part that one accessed then with a swing bridge that located just across from the Anglican Church which was nearly a mile
from the Central part,Content. That was the home of my mother.But we grew up in my Father's inherited large plantation of bananas in
Maiden Hall, three miles south of Pembroke Hall and less than two miles south also of Jeffrey Town and two miles north of Guy's Hill on the St. Mary side of that town.
The Gray family's home was |Maiden Hall back in the of the patriarch after slavery and the district eventually took that name.Property stretched from River to River, i.e White River
which began on the St.Mary side of Guy's Hill and flowed east toward Dillon Town which is St.Ann, and flowed by Blackstonege forming tghe border with St. Ann to end near
Ocho Rios.
I could regale you with Tales of the Parish, but I had to laugh loudly about the duppy stories. Head grew big when they were told and boy fraid to go outside.
Electricity was not available and nights were black except for the moon shine time.lol
It was fun boarding the trucks loaded with bananas to the Oracabessa to either the Industry whart or Standard wharft where my old man was head
banana checker before the fruits were loaded to canoes/small boats to go offshore to the two waiting ships as the waters were shallow, unlike Port Antonio or
Bowden in St. Thomas.
The biggest banana planters were the Delissers, Champagnie,Marsh and the Grays in Western St.Mary and the guys that own such in Geddes Town/Free Hill and other districts
in what became Central St.Mary with the addition of a Third Constituency etc going back to Port Maria Islington with Frontier
Property both being significant and historic too by the role in Tacky's deeds back in the day.
Yet Tacky High School is located in Gayle,the de facto capital of Western S.Mary ////
St.Mary was a boy's delight ..for fun...with riverside cooking after nabbing huge cray fish from the White River for the cook out there and the plentifu Janga which
we called Black hog from the Rio Sambre of which quite a few rivers of that name can be found in different and far apart districts in St. Mary.
We called ours Sambo and the Rio Tigre which flowed through Pembroke Hall (Wood Park), Derry,towards Dressikie(Dress to Kill)and beyond the valleys of Gayle,we called Tiger. Those all formed
the many tributaries behind Carron hall,Donnington and which are the headwaters of Rio Nuevo.
Wonderful Parish Then...the Ian Fleming Airport based in Boscobel was the horse race course and entertainment area on the then Emancipation day August 1st when
even donkeys would race against thoroughbred horses and sometimes win..lollol
Between the Jacks River factory road and the river mentioned was one of the best little cricket fields you could find too and the ambience was great with sweet orange groves
beyond the boundary at both ends.
St.Mary in my time was the best rural cricket parish for many year dating back to visits from British teams in early 20th century and which some English cricketers claimed to have the
best cricket field apart from Bourda. That was Palmer's Park which went kaput and replaced by a good buy inferior field called Clemetson Park. Clemetson being one of if not the biggest
banana producer back in the day and who was very generous by donating a scholarhip to the then Jamaica School of Agriculture then situation near Central Village. It was worth 60 Pounds a year but only for a St. Mary boy. I won it in 1961 after it was not claimed for about 10 years,But being still a teen,parents hoofed me off to Mico instead,no if and or but or question.
At that time it was worth about 105 Pounds a year with half going to student in cash. Who said I was a winner ???lol
Ten pounds then could get you more than 2 acres of good land anywhere but unlimited amount of distilled product of white variety for many days.lollol
Those were the days when a PNP voter was a thought except for my family, one person in Wallingford and the McFarlane family from which sprang Uton Dowe in Jeffery Town
and one or two in Decoy. A Champagnie and Claude Stewart and a Robinson were the only sure PNP votes then in Pembroke Hall,better known as Wood Park after the cricket club of that name.
I was a numerator at 16,poll clerk at 16 and Presiding Officer in the illfated election called by NWM before independence following his huge loss in the Referendum. Set the Party and Country back
decades and we have not achieved our True Independence even now.There is hardly a place I have not been to in the entire Parish.
Hopefully the party of the Head,...Busta used the Hand symbol in early days and the illiterate especially in my part of the Woods would point it out when they come to vote.
'I want the Hand'. If you dare question them which we could not do, they would be quick to respond..'me have to labour with mi hand...I will follow Buta till I die.''
Hopefully, Golding's PNP can enthuse the young under 25 people to vote as the Head was the symbol for Education,wisdom,intelligence and discernment among other things.
Now that Sept 3 is near, the PNP task will be tough but 70 years after PNP's Claude Stewart won PNP's first seat in Western St. Mary, the party will now sweep all three.
I can only hope. If the young ones turn out for them and plurality goes over 55 per cent then it will be done,other than that I see a dishonest and mostly ill equipped party
remaining in power.
Imagine Desmond McKenzie who I knew from his wearing baggy days, is OJ. ??? And Lecky is not a National Hero.
What can go so ? Sorry for the diatribe's length.
Walk good.
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 12:52 PM
In reply to Chrissy

well, the Gleaner is reporting that the police killed 2 men in relation to this attack. not surprised. i didnt realize the little boy died. the video of him trying to get up in the car is beyond heart wrenching.


i know politicians from both sides of the aisle usually get accused of misuse of funds. but i think the blatant actions of this administration are just way out there
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 12:55 PM
In reply to hubert

Hopefully, Golding's PNP can enthuse the young under 25 people to vote as the Head was the symbol for Education,wisdom,intelligence and discernment among other things.


who is going to be the messenger?
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 12:55 PM
In reply to michaelmax
I have to admit, what I saw last night was good "politicking." But looking at what happened in Murca one sees many a dichotomy..Voters were fed up with Biden's inflation but ignored Trump's corruption. Both those situations are on the JLP side. But yet, people who agree that unemployment and crime is low may ignore the above.The PNP (don't know, even polls may be wrong) though seems to be messaging tepidly and timidly. Who and what will ppl listen to or be moved by?
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 2:53 PM
In reply to ponderiver

What about the Devil's Race Course, yuh know dem place!
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 2:57 PM
In reply to Brerzerk

Polls from 2023 to June 2025 shows the PNP consistently ahead. Yes it's tightened. Same polls show NO movement for the JLP over that time hovering at 29 to about 29.5%. Movement away from PNP went to uncommitted. The PNP is messaging fine. However, their messaging ISN'T using traditional media channels given how JLP ised the media is. And I don't just mean ownership but I mean actual JOURNALISTS. They are using social media and DIRECT communication. So every rally/parish meeting- they drop reminders of some policy proposal. Other times in different parishes they held economic fora. The held an education one in Chuck's constituency. The held the second one with people with disabilities which is what I shared. From what I can see they don't just want to be telling people what THEY will do but seem to want to HEAR from ppl what THEIR issues are to fine tune policy and that is very different. It's not the traditional approach even though they are using that but they seem to be trying to get conversations on education, creative industries, housing, local govt, participatory democracy, youth and people with disabilities & inclusive growth. Those are the themes they hit regularly even as the hit the JLP on corruption. Crawford is saying the JLP has failed education. It's not the typical rae rae with policy thrown in. They are campaigning on JLP failure and on PNP policy. As I said they are using social media and taking messages directly to the constituencies. They have had multiple bus tours criscrossing the parishes with candidates and party presenting plans. They've also done esp in the country house to house campaigning. Whatever, the result Delroy Chuck for the FIRST time campaigned. They went to Standpipe to hold a discussion. They met twice with taximen in Papine. As I said, it is a DIFFERENT form of campaigning than what we know. Mark has had interviews with different popular tiktokers. The PNP 2020 campaign had NO CLUE how to leverage social media. Not true of this communications group.
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 2:58 PM
In reply to Brerzerk

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMAJhU1br/
Make of this what you will. This is a JLP town hall
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 3:02 PM
In reply to hubert

My former job took me to many of those places, but in the days of electricity!
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 3:05 PM
In reply to Chrissy

I am calling it early, 33 comrades, 30 green bush!
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 3:17 PM
In reply to XDFIX

Lucky you..Born right time lollollol
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 3:31 PM
In reply to XDFIX

Devil race course lissen nuh boss i used to be on that road on a Monday morning on the star bus to Jago on the way to Spanish town
To this day talking about it gives me the chills
I used to catch the bus before day a mawning at Jacks River i was only a child
Mon, Aug 11, '25 at 3:55 PM
In reply to ponderiver

Star bus..the conductor in my time was Mr.Coulton.His daughter Marjorie was in same class at Wallingford Elementary and her
his son Woodley a few years younger did too.He lived in Dressikie and they would catch the bus back after 4 p.m.
Such a nice man he was. He took care of all the young ones .Sadly that route through Wood Park,Herman Hill Wallingford,Maiden
Hall Decoy to Guy's Hill could not happen today as the road no longer exist and traffic has to go through Barker or another converted
parochial road to get to Jeffrey Town to get to Maiden Hall through Top Road. The road going through Wallingford stops at Wallingford.
Underground water problem which has existed for decades caused home to sink in Herman Hill and has taken the road away.
Devil's race Course...This made St.Mary drivers the best.
Remember when it was narrow and not asphalted and meeting a mosquito going or coming presented a problem lollol
At its deepest point,the precipice is over a mile. Mango trees on the downward side have saved many a trucker, including
one of my brothers.Making an ascent was equally dangerous...a late gear causing a roll back was a no no.
I wonder if they found a way to widen that road...Last time I went on it was on visit in 1993 and it was still a major challenge
and very strange to me.
Yes back in the day,every vehicle going up or down had a Must Stop at Coley's place to catch a breath,buy mangoes,oranges or other goodies.
before moving on to the plains of St. Catherine to Linstead or to tackle hills and curves towards Benbow/Guy's Hill.
It was fun smile
Makes Spur Tree Hill with its wide curves, a piece a cake. But I am still here lol
BTW , I have seen on You Tube the condition of the road thru Jacks River and the vegetation is horrible. The once beautiful landscape of tall
coconut trees from Ramble are no more and the landscape is bare,hardly a banana tree and road is even narrower before you get to turn off to Free Hill.
Not good visuals and Jacks River is run down except for the gas station and a few good homes.
Have you been back there lately ?
BTW, My nephew who lived in Guy's Hill drove the road at 12 years old in his father's car to Dinthill HS causing mayhem (excitement) . Sadly he passed two years ago
in his late 60s.
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