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Unjust and inhuman
Fri, Jan 30, '26 at 4:05 PM
@Halliwell
I’m struck by your use of the words “unjust and inhuman,” especially given that you live in England, so I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from.
When I click your link, it points straight into Britain’s own history: a place where the Royal Family and European monarchies didn’t merely “allow” the buying and selling of African captives, but at various points sanctioned it, defended it, and profited from it. And it doesn’t seem like this system appeared by accident, or on the edges of power. In Britain, the transatlantic slave trade was formally entrenched through royal authority, Charles II granting a monopoly charter to the Royal African Company, and then successive monarchs and their families benefiting from the investment and the wider economy that flowed from it.
So I’m left wondering: if the monarchy didn’t just preside over slavery, but helped normalise and legitimise it, what does that mean for how we talk about morality and responsibility now? And does any of that linger, in quieter forms, today?
That’s where my puzzlement deepens. You live, comfortably, it seems, in a country whose wealth was built in part through these brutal systems, and through exploitation across the Commonwealth: extraction, coercion, starvation, the stripping of resources and autonomy. I can’t help asking: did that legacy help shape the standards of living you’ve inherited? Did it help fund institutions that offered you stability, an education, a path forward?
And this is the part I’m genuinely trying to get a clear answer on:
If slavery and indentureship were cruel, and we agree they were, then centuries later, how did slavery affect you personally? In your life, materially or socially, what did it make easier? What did it make possible? Would you have had the same opportunities that led you to the “mother country” if Britain hadn’t accumulated wealth and influence through those despicable deeds?
I’m not asking to insult you, and I’m not interested in trading accusations. I’m asking because I keep looking for someone who can respond to questions like these plainly and directly, without defensiveness, and without resorting to insults.
Sarge
Fri, Jan 30, '26 at 4:07 PM
Granite:
How did indentureship affect you and family or did it?
Mere Curiosity.
Thanks
Sarge
Fri, Jan 30, '26 at 5:13 PM
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@sgtdjones
Can I turn it around a bit and say I’m following my resources that were taken and transplanted? Are you able to start debating without resorting to a ghost writer? I know they’re your opinions but the wrapper is unsavoury
you know that inhuman was the literal quote right? And if there was any error by the good gentleman he should have said unhuman way back then
there was no humane way to treat slaves to gain social acceptance
and…
don’t try to equate slavery with ‘the absolute horror of indentureship’
Fri, Jan 30, '26 at 5:33 PM
@Halliwell
I’m not asking to insult you, and I’m not interested in trading accusations. I’m asking because I keep looking for someone who can respond to questions like these plainly and directly, without defensiveness, and without resorting to insults.
I prefer not to delve further , according to my ghostwriter.
On this site allegations are made without any proof,subtle metaphors.
Why not resort to I prefer not to comment instead of BS above...😎
Sat, Jan 31, '26 at 4:02 AM
@Halliwell
You see the ploy, eh!!
Mind him Nikki Rammaswammy you.
Like clockwork!
Sat, Jan 31, '26 at 7:17 AM
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@JahJah
This is a good time to remember that in 2020, realising he hadn’t a black voice on his cabinet, that Boris wheeled out billionaire Rishi to talk about his bullying experiences on the playground at private school, when someone laughed at his food.
Sat, Jan 31, '26 at 9:43 AM
@Halliwell
I will continue to blame you for encouraging and legitimizing De Liar
you deserve whatever you get from him and Rocman Granite
BTW you are lucky he didn’t say the pleasure of slavery and the absolute horror of indentureship
Sat, Jan 31, '26 at 11:01 AM
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You know what’s funny? I asked a few simple questions, and instead of an answer I got a full-blown emotional evacuation,lots of noise, zero substance.
That’s usually how it goes: people who can’t compete on facts start auditioning for “injured party,” because insecurity and envy don’t argue, they perform.
They won’t touch the questions, they’ll just swipe at the person holding it, classic crabs in a barrel behavior: if they can’t climb, they’ll make damn sure nobody else does either.
Sarge Ghost writer.
Sat, Jan 31, '26 at 11:36 AM
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@sgtdjones
You sure you not an American Republican?
That’s usually how it goes: people who can’t compete on facts start auditioning for “injured party,” because insecurity and envy don’t argue, they perform.
You now move on to saying that people are playing the race card???
Sat, Jan 31, '26 at 11:42 AM
@Halliwell
I will let you make such allegations , you are good at discrete metaphors.
Obfuscate as much as you want.....
Still avoiding my questions I see according to my ghostwriter...