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HEADLINE: Findlay is new WI team manager

 
CaribbeanCricket.com Apr 30, 2007, 2:26:09 PM 

Former West Indies chief selector Mike Findlay has been named manager for the upcoming tour to England.

Findlay, a Vincentian who played in 10 Tests for the regional side in the 1970s, will take control of a management team that includes interim head coach David Moore and assistant coach Hendy Springer.
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redbaron Apr 30, 2007, 2:33:00 PM 

Makes no difference who is manager, the story will have the same ending.

Sarwan is lucky - appointed for only 1 series. That ought to limit his agony and save him from being completely destroyed.

It really does not matter who they chop and change, who have role and who don't have role. The performances and results of the WI cricket team will not change except maybe to get worse.

WI cricket in its current manifestation is obsolete to these times and should cease to exist.

 
Ayjaeghi Apr 30, 2007, 2:33:35 PM 

How is a one-tour captaincy with review effectively any different from probation?

 
Yamfoot Apr 30, 2007, 2:33:45 PM 

So how dem announcing tings and the WIPA issue with the FTP hasnt been settled yet?
I guess they confident.

Anyway, maybe Clive Lloyd is not available.

 
dcbreds Apr 30, 2007, 2:35:44 PM 

In reply to Ayjaeghi

Yuh know?

 
ray Apr 30, 2007, 2:48:18 PM 

In reply to Ayjaeghi

guess they want to see if the team shows cohesion and also put in the necessary effort. I assume success would be measured in terms of discipline, showing determination and performing credibly.

 
voiceofreason Apr 30, 2007, 2:51:40 PM 

Congrats Findlay on the appointment. Make sure dem Fellas shape up or Ship dem out!

Dottie Revolution taking shape. 8)

 
Chrissy Apr 30, 2007, 3:17:55 PM 

Poor Mike! You brave bad.

 
bugz Apr 30, 2007, 3:19:21 PM 

All the best Finlay

 
Surya Apr 30, 2007, 3:20:28 PM 

In reply to voiceofreason

Former West Indies chief selector Mike Findlay

How did that go? 8)

 
freij Apr 30, 2007, 4:20:50 PM 

i would've liked to see jimmy adams in this role

 
FuzzyWuzzy Apr 30, 2007, 4:21:25 PM 

In reply to Yamfoot Lloyd got some new responsibilities including setting up de Academy

 
FuzzyWuzzy Apr 30, 2007, 4:22:24 PM 

In reply to freij


He too young. You have to be over 60 years old and have played minimal no. of tests

 
Dukes Apr 30, 2007, 4:39:17 PM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com Sarwan's appointment is only for the tour of England

This is absolute NONSENSE.

West Indies captains HAVE NEVER been appointed for more than 1 tour at a time.They always are evaluated at the end of a tour so this is a non-statement.
I am 100% sure that there is a story here.Who was pushing the probation idea and was there a vote.
Licks fuh KG.
Time he go off into the sunset and leff WI cricket to rise from the ashes.

 
doublesman Apr 30, 2007, 4:56:44 PM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Another rethread. What happen to the young managers that we have e.g The management teams of under19, 15 etc.
We need new blood .We need new ideas. We need a fresh new perspective.
Who is going to disicipline any senior player on tour?
What happens if a player or players say it is too cold to go out and train? What is the penalty for insubordination?
It is stuff like this we want to hear.
For crying out loud the WICB Website still has Australia won the cup and NOTHING about a new captain.
That is what we have at the top. INCOMPETENCE.
We need someone to TAKE CHARGE of the players and someone to take charge of the Admin. Lay the law down from captain to cook NO BS. Screw up and you sitting DOWN or going home. CHOOSE.

 
XFactor Apr 30, 2007, 5:00:30 PM 

In reply to voiceofreason

Dottie Revolution taking shape.


A Dottie moved up to Manager’s position and VOR is all revved up........ revolution.:lol:

Now you need followers, and a public forum to express your views.

Stand up for your rights!

 
FuzzyWuzzy Apr 30, 2007, 5:02:39 PM 

In reply to XFactor

Well he got a selector: Roberts. A Manager: Findlay. 4 Board members.

I guess he really poised to tek ova.......if only he could get some cricketers

 
casiba Apr 30, 2007, 5:05:28 PM 

In reply to Dukes
MAN ! we have to stop looking for a man --one man--to do things for us
we gotta to do things ourselves -Come on people --rise up and take over---

 
XFactor Apr 30, 2007, 5:08:31 PM 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

A Dottie Cricketer?

Well that is hard to find....even amongst the living! :lol:

 
imusic Apr 30, 2007, 5:13:16 PM 

In reply to Dukes
If I'm not mistaken (and I may be), WI captains have been appointed for a single series before Sarwan. Based on how they do in that series, then they are subsequently appointed or not for future series. As you know, one WI captain was on probation for a single Test match.

If it is accurate that WI captains in the past have been appointed on a series by series basis, the only difference between those instances and this one is the term "PROBATION". One can even say if a captain is appointed for 1 series, it wouldn't be unreasonable to infer that captain is virtually on probation.


 
Dukes Apr 30, 2007, 5:14:23 PM 

In reply to casiba Bannas I deh in New Jersey!!!

De only rising up I plan to do is in de morning!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 
imusic Apr 30, 2007, 5:16:55 PM 

In reply to Dukes

De only rising up I plan to do is in de morning!!!!!!!!!


De better half might be disappointed to hear dat.... :? 8)

 
XFactor Apr 30, 2007, 5:20:43 PM 

In reply to imusic

Do you know of any other team that places their Captain on "Probation" from the get go?

Just asking...

 
dcbreds Apr 30, 2007, 5:28:54 PM 

In reply to doublesman

It is characteristic of dishonest, incompetent people. They try to tell everyone that someone else is the reason for their failures (I live in the US and I see it all the time - immigrants are blamed for stagnant wages).

So all of these cricketers' failings are blamed on Lara, WICB, BK and everyone else but them.

 
Bootsie Apr 30, 2007, 5:31:11 PM 

Was the position advertised and Findlay appointed following a proper business process? Sigh...I'm guessing not.

 
googly1961 Apr 30, 2007, 5:41:02 PM 

In reply to Bootsie

following a proper business process?


Bootsie, dem cyan spell process much like create one and follow it!! :( :( :(

 
XFactor Apr 30, 2007, 6:06:04 PM 

In reply to googly1961

Talk of undergoing a transformation of culture and infrastructure is all talk.

Hardly anything ever changes in WI cricket.

 
Dukes Apr 30, 2007, 6:11:37 PM 

In reply to Bootsie Findlay's position is not a permanent one.It is only for this tour.In the past WI managers were appointed on a tour by tour basis and was essentially a job given to ex test players as a recognition of their services rather than anything meaningful.

 
Wally-1 Apr 30, 2007, 6:16:19 PM 

couldn't they do better than findlay?...my goodness,

 
googly1961 Apr 30, 2007, 6:17:48 PM 

In reply to Wally-1

Anyone name Thaddeus must be a decent chap and from what I read, he is...

 
Wally-1 Apr 30, 2007, 6:22:10 PM 

In reply to googly1961

a lot of foolishness took place with team selection while he was chairman..

wi needs to move away from these failures.

 
Lovemd62 Apr 30, 2007, 7:03:01 PM 

In reply to redbaron Mr Redbaron: I fail to Join your sentiments, Cricket is a legacy! One defeted battle does not meant we have lost the war. A winner never quits and a quitter never wins.


You are way to early in your midstream giving up! You will drowned yourself in the toxicity of unbelief. Lets give them a chance to pull themselves up by the boot strap.

 
Chally1 Apr 30, 2007, 7:39:47 PM 

Wait so Sarwan can be involved in picking team but the GREATEST man to play for WI a Trinbago man was not allowed to pick his team.. wow!

 
Fortis May 1, 2007, 4:48:06 AM 

In reply to Chally1

You better believe that, as we would not want him to replicate picking his Trini countryman who is an opener, and batting him at no. 8. In other words, even Sarwan is NOT THAT DUMB!! Get over it, Lara has faded into the past as a good batsman and a very bad captain! Hopefully we will now have some cohesion in the team.

 
Wally-1 May 1, 2007, 4:51:09 AM 

In reply to Fortis

dis sounds like a kc man.

 
analyst-kid May 1, 2007, 5:27:14 AM 

a dottie revolution is not a bad thing....maybe some players could emerge with some work ethic and brains...my Bajan players (Edwards,Smith) have disappointed me with their lack of work ethic...is time for some other guys.

 
crapaud May 1, 2007, 5:36:07 AM 

A dottie is being given a few crumbs :cry: :cry:

 
Zikdaman May 1, 2007, 5:42:12 AM 

WHy all this bruhaha over a manager anyway? What the hell does he do to generate all this attention. It seems more like a ceremonial position anyway.

 
dravid May 1, 2007, 6:09:20 AM 


I am amazed they haven't seen it fit to appoint a fast bowling coach for this tour.
Who is going to guide Jerome and company?

 
slatoy May 3, 2007, 9:41:04 AM 

In reply to Fortis

A small correction- converted opener. He batted anywhere from 1 to 7 before he played under Lara. Indeed he was played as one of the bowlers in one day cricket in U -19 cricket. The falacy being forwarded that batting late in the order was new to him should be ended. Further to that he was selected as a wicketkeeper back-up and would have been expected to bat either as an opener or at 7 or 8 anyway.

 
slatoy May 3, 2007, 9:49:05 AM 

In reply to Zikdaman

I suppose that is why we are unsuccesful since the Team Manager is a ceremonial role rather than an operative role. Trinidad in the last four years are examples of why this role has to be operative. After a successful year the manager was changed which resulted in a dramatic failure and his rapid return. On his return they were successful. His role was and is applauded by players as being valuable in ensuring that the team is ready and mentally able to play cricket. Lord knows we need someone to do this.