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Dukes 2014-11-21 10:25:55 

Why does water boil quicker in Denver Colorado than in New York City?

 
JohnDoe 2014-11-21 10:48:49 

In reply to Dukes

I'm sure you can use your favorite search engine to find the answer.

ToldUSo should also know the answer since I sent him to do some remedial high school physics. lol

 
camos 2014-11-21 10:50:50 

In reply to Dukes

not a scientist ,but the more favourable atmospheric pressure at the higher altitude?

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 10:53:32 

In reply to camos

Camos mi bwoy....wha yuh mean by more favourable atmospheric pressure?

 
camos 2014-11-21 10:55:07 

In reply to LenksI think the theory is the lower pressure?

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 10:55:29 

In reply to JohnDoe

ToldUSO won't touch this. I asked him a weeks ago what happens to water when placed in a vacuum and he couldn't answer...

 
Dukes 2014-11-21 10:59:59 

The bottle of water that I am drinking has this as a fun fact on the bottle so I wondered is this true and why?

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 11:02:13 

In reply to camos

Is that a question? Well...yes...that is the fundamental reason why life as we know it on Earth could never exist on Mars.

 
JohnDoe 2014-11-21 11:04:51 

In reply to Dukes

Bulby or whoever taught you back in the day would be disappointed that you forgot his lectures on the topic. lol

 
camos 2014-11-21 11:07:15 

In reply to Lenks

that is the fundamental reason why life as we know it on Earth could never exist on Mars



So weh TUSo from? lol

 
Dukes 2014-11-21 11:09:52 

In reply to JohnDoe

Bulby did teach me and I managed to top the class one time much to everyone's astonishment!!!!!

Doubt whether he would be disappointed but nevertheless do you know the answer?

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 11:10:08 

In reply to Dukes

Yuh saying the man figet everything bout Boyle's law...crushing can and all?

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 11:11:31 

In reply to Dukes

Less volume of air...less pressure...less molecules of air.

That's all...

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 11:12:01 

In reply to camos

Mi nuh know whe that man come from...

 
Dukes 2014-11-21 12:58:10 

In reply to Lenks


Less volume of air...less pressure...less molecules of air.


All of that is true in Denver but why does that cause water to boil quicker?

 
JohnDoe 2014-11-21 13:12:33 

In reply to Dukes

All you're doing when you change a substance from liquid to gas is giving the molecules the energy needed to overcome the forces that hold them together in liquid form. Pressure is an external force that inhibits molecules escaping a liquid. Less pressure less energy needed to escape.

 
ToldUSo 2014-11-21 13:14:29 

In reply to Dukes

All of that is true in Denver but why does that cause water to boil quicker?

Dude why do you persist with this simple high school shit, of course it does, but water will boil at a much lesser temperature than 100 C.

In power plants we use super heated steam both in nuke and coal plants to drive turbines, we get super heated steam by boiling water in a high pressure atmosphere, worked on a few nuke plants back in the day, saw every plan there is. Worked on tweaking GE turbines, they are designed with one High pressure turbine and two Low pressure turbine, hmmmm.

Now onto something more meaningful.

 
JohnDoe 2014-11-21 13:18:06 

In reply to ToldUSo

, they are designed with one High pressure turbine and two Low pressure turbine, hmmmm.

Not true. They are designed with one high pressure turbine, one intermediate pressure turbine and one low pressure turbine. And stop scolding people bout high school physics since you are the one in most need of remedial help here.

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 13:24:22 

In reply to JohnDoe

And stop scolding people bout high school physics since you are the one in most need of remedial help here.


hehehehe...

 
ToldUSo 2014-11-21 13:32:03 

In reply to JohnDoe

Dude STFU, have you ever worked on them, back in the 70s when we were building nuke plans they were designed with 1 high and 2 lows, why do you talk about stuff you don't understand, it says right there on the plans, low 1 and low 2.

 
pelon 2014-11-21 13:35:42 

Dukes: altitude. atmospheric pressure.
As you increase altitude, the external pressure on the water is decreased, therefore it will take less energy to break the water molecules free from their bonded energy. If it takes less energy, then it will take less heat, as this is the energy we are introducing. If less heat is required, then less temperature is required, then the water will boil at a lower temperature

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 13:39:19 

In reply to Dukes

A liquid doesn't boil at a set temperature. A liquid boils when the vapor pressure is equal to the atmospheric pressure.

Energy forces that change to vapor causes and heat is measured that point. That is the temperature at which it boils.

Water boils at 100 degrees only at sea level. Greater the pressure, the higher temperature at which water boils. Less pressure, lower temp.

Example...car cooling system. Radiator cap causes system to be under greater pressure so water will boil at a higher temperature so car engine can keep colloer....same with pressure cooker.

Remember now...all based on atmospheric pressure. The atmosphere/air above us creates the pressure. Higher up you go, less pressure on our body.

You put water in a vacuum, it boils instantly. No atmospheric pressure, less energy to turn it to water vapor...little heat/temperature.

John Doe stated correctly re energy.

A wide range of arguments can create from this topic...like cold air, hot air, dense air, thin air, radiation heat vs temperature, etc...

 
JohnDoe 2014-11-21 13:45:04 

In reply to ToldUSo

Alright maybe back in the 70s my foul-mouthed friend. Not the best use of steam energy to go from high to low, hence the use of the intermediate pressure turbine in modern day applications.

 
JohnDoe 2014-11-21 13:49:01 

In reply to Lenks

Nice scholarly explanation. smile

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 13:52:10 

In reply to ToldUSo

Mr. Man...

Dukes asked the following...below.

All of that is true in Denver but why does that cause water to boil quicker?


Your response...below

Dude why do you persist with this simple high school shit, of course it does, but water will boil at a much lesser temperature than 100 C.

In power plants we use super heated steam both in nuke and coal plants to drive turbines, we get super heated steam by boiling water in a high pressure atmosphere, worked on a few nuke plants back in the day, saw every plan there is. Worked on tweaking GE turbines, they are designed with one High pressure turbine and two Low pressure turbine, hmmmm.

Now onto something more meaningful.


Seriously???

Where the hell is your answer?

 
Nico 2014-11-21 13:56:47 

In reply to ToldUSo

In power plants we use super heated steam both in nuke and coal plants to drive turbines, we get super heated steam by boiling water in a high pressure atmosphere, worked on a few nuke plants back in the day, saw every plan there is. Worked on tweaking GE turbines, they are designed with one High pressure turbine and two Low pressure turbine, hmmmm.


Ahahahahahahaha!!!!

Lawd mi belly!!

 
pelon 2014-11-21 14:00:05 

In reply to Nico

SO FUNNY DAT CHAP...And did not know what an inverter was. Him claim now to have tweaked GE turbines... can tweak a nuclear power turbine, but clueless about DC power inverters... i smell BS.

 
ToldUSo 2014-11-21 14:01:25 

In reply to Lenks

Where the hell is your answer?


Try reading it about ten times, if you still don't get it then you need:
You need remedial English.

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 14:05:07 

In reply to ToldUSo

Man STFU...

What you stated has nothing to do with what Duke asked.

of course it does, but water will boil at a much lesser temperature than 100 C.


Is it the above..or the below?

we get super heated steam by boiling water in a high pressure atmosphere


What the hell you saying? Nothing to do with answering question.

Matter of fact, your second statement is opposite of first statement.

Do us a favor and stay off this thread with your ignorance...

Remember now, you couldn't even answer question about what happens to water when placed in a vacuum and now you come talking shit on this thread...

 
np 2014-11-21 14:11:54 

In reply to Lenks

Nice solid explanation ther Bro Lenks .. I don't now have t oget involved .. I will go back to specializing on the entertainment from our old and new female artists with conscious lyrics!!

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 14:17:41 

In reply to np

Cool...and I will keep following your musical posts.

 
ToldUSo 2014-11-21 14:18:55 

In reply to Lenks

Dude I insist you need remedial English, I answered Duke's question emphatically, then I went on to explain why. I guess I could have simply stated that is why pressure cookers are used in high altitude areas for water could be boiling in the 80 degree range and that will not cook certain foods. Dude you are either an idiot or on your way to becoming one.

I'm done here, onto other stuff.

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 14:23:41 

In reply to ToldUSo

Again...please don't post on this thread again.

This thread covers all the fundamental why life as we know it on Earth cannot exist on Mars.

It also covers the fundamentals why Comets have tails.

It also covers your bullshit argument about Comet 67P being stink because of organic matter.

Not to mention your argument about Comet 67p unexpectedly having hard surface when Comets are solid objects...rocks, dust and ice.

So please...tek whe yuhself.

 
Star 2014-11-21 15:47:12 

In reply to Lenks

that is the fundamental reason why life as we know it on Earth could never exist on Mars.

Is there life on mars and if there is, why must life on Mars exist as we know it on Earth?

 
ToldUSo 2014-11-21 17:32:34 

In reply to Lenks


Again...please don't post on this thread again.


Gotcha, I won't.

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 18:18:31 

In reply to Star

Ask ToldUSo...

He keeps talking about Earth-like life on Mars...

 
Dukes 2014-11-21 18:43:13 

In reply to Lenks,Pelon and John Doe

Gentlemen
I wish to thank you for explaining to the board why water boils quicker in Denver than in New York City.
I just thought it would be good for everyone to understand why that is so,after seeing it as a fun fact on a bottle of water.

 
Lenks 2014-11-21 20:28:25 

In reply to ToldUSo

Dude I insist you need remedial English, I answered Duke's question emphatically, then I went on to explain why. I guess I could have simply stated that is why pressure cookers are used in high altitude areas for water could be boiling in the 80 degree range and that will not cook certain foods. Dude you are either an idiot or on your way to becoming one.


In between telling you not to post here, I missed this chupidness that you wrote.

Even if you had written above as an answer, still wouldn't have answered Duke's question. You just stating happenings, not causes and effects...yuh chupid fart.

Seriously, what did you explain?

Again, I already explained pressure cookers and car cooling system so why you mentioning pressure cooker again? Even then, you still don't understand concept.

Now ....pray, tell me...Where on Earth do you have people living in such altitudes that they need help with pressure cooker for "water" to boil at 80 degrees range? Where?

Idiot, not even on Mt. Everest...water boils at 71 degrees on top of Mt. Everest. Could you survive on Mt. Everest much less need help of pressure cooker to boil water at 80 degrees range so you would be able to cook certain foods?

Good thing you took my advice and tek whe yuhself.

Another thing...yes, I'm mad, nothing wrong with that...just that there are levels. I know my level, do you really know yours?

 
Curtis 2014-11-21 20:32:35 

combimation of Boyles & Charles laws

 
nick2020 2014-11-21 21:12:31 

In reply to Lenks

Why did it take the others so long to see snuffy in Sesame Street?