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I am not sure that this is good for cricket though. The bowlers are being pushed out of what should be a contest between bat and ball. Outside of a second bouncer below the head, has there been any other concessions made to bowlers in the game recently?

In reply to yardman83

For real

In reply to yardman83

how about limiting batters to 1 six per over.

In reply to yardman83

You can be out lbw while playing a shot when struck on the pad outside the off stump if in the umpire's opinion the ball will go on to hit the stumps.

2 powerplay blocks instead of 3

In reply to yardman83

When teams like scotland and UAE score 300's for fun it is just unattractive

In reply to imusic

Weak.

In reply to Commie

Inaccurate?

I think in this tournament the pitches have been very friendly to batting, only those teams with good swing bowlers have been able to get the opposition out for a low score.

In reply to imusic

The one with the lbw is weak to distraction and the power play being reduced seems great until you remember that 5 fielders have to stay within the 30 yard ring for the entire 50 overs!

The two new balls might be the only real bowler carrot and the second might be that luckily Australian, though not NZ grounds, are large.

However the sport is turned into a joke and it is artificially inflating the stats of batsmen in particular.

I agree with Warne. Go back to no fielding restrictions. Put your people everywhere you want to like Tests and lets see if these batsmen are evolving.

In reply to Commie
The second new ball might be an iffy rule, since it favors the batsman most of the time, because it is easier to hit the ball to the boundary.

The balls are only 25 overs old at the end of the innings...still hard, easier to hit, not old enough for reverse swing.

In reply to YoungWarrior

And here I was thinking that by and large, teams prefer a new ball.

I remember test teams preferring to stay with the old ball even when the new ball was due because the ball was just starting to reverse swing.

But wait.....the new ball in tests is due after the 80th over.

I must be mistaken.

Fielding Restrictions for first 12 overs.
2 x 5 over power-plays between 20 - 40 overs.
No changing the ball.
The fielding team can have at five fieldsmen outside the thirty-yard circle for overs outside of power-plays.

Absolutely agree that run making has become too easy and there are too many batsmen with inflated averages. This not only applies to ODI cricket but all international cricket. They all use big, lightweight but 'super springy' bats, it's very easy to mistime/ mishit sixes let alone fours

Generally the pitches are very flat and slow and to be honest there is a real dearth of high quality bowling particularly pace bowling, perhaps they just play too much cricket ?

The best match IMO by far in this WC has been NZ v OZ....150 odd plays 150 odd...thrilling match, great fast & swing bowling...some thrilling batting and 'only' 300 odd runs in the match. Says it all really.

In reply to imusic

Is that a new lbw rule?

I would hate to be a bowler in these conditions... The game needs more balance between bat and ball...

Maybe they should make batting pads illegal and decriminalise lbw.

In reply to imusic

Look how long dat lbw law in effect. Even Padams get out so

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

In reply to imusic

Isnt it two allowable bouncers below the head? I am sure that is what I have been seeing as of late. I stand corrected if this is not so.

In reply to robbo

I agree with you. It is becoming difficult to get an even contest between bat and ball. I am now wondering what will be considered a good bowling economy rate in limited overs now.

In reply to imusic

It all depends on the state of the game and conditions in a test match, the preference of an old or new ball is strategic...apples to oranges really.

Let's examine the scenarios at the closing stages of an ODI innings in this era of new rules and fielding restriction:

Batting friendly surfaces except on very rare occasions.

20-25 overs old ball,still hard and easier to put away, not old enough to reverse swing.

Bigger bats, smaller boundaries.

Result: Teams are consistently scoring 100 or more in the last 10 overs...one sided boring games.

For me the most exciting game this world cup so far was the Aus/NZ game and it was a low scoring one.

In reply to yardman83

To makes things fairer to the bowler, they(ICC) should implement the following changes:

a. increase the size of the wicket to that of a standard gate
b. reduce the width of the bat to 3 inches.
c. batsmen can wear either seed-guard or helmet, not both
d. after the 40th over batsmen have to bat in reverse, that is if you are a rightie, you have to bat leftie and vice-versa

etc

In reply to dayne

Biggest difference is the 4 fielders outside only rule....

Long on and long off are almost always used. If they have a sweeper on both sides (just in front of square), then it invites paddle/reverse sweeping to fineleg/3rd man (think ABD).

If they choose to protect one of fine leg or 3rd man, then the player will either make room or get inside the line and exploit where the sweeper used to be.

You are not supposed to be out if you playing a shot and struck outside offstump.

In reply to steveo

In reply to DAVE400

You must not have watched cricket for a while bro.

Many batsmen pretended to play shots to balls pitched outside the off stump precisely because of the old application of the law.

Umpires started giving batsmen out if in their opinion the ball would go on to hit the stumps and the batsmen weren't making a real effort to play a shot. That's where Padams got his moniker.

The rule itself is the same but the application of the rule has changed in favour of the bowler. Properly so IMO

In reply to yardman83

In reply to imusic

I aint disagreeing with that.. Batsmen pretending to play shots... But the rule as it stands still does bot permit lbw for genuine attempts at shot play.

In reply to steveo

Please explain your reason for giving a batsman the option of wearing the seed guard or the helmet. Are the seed/cock and the head not both thinking centres that need protection?