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Einstein

 
Commie Apr 18, 2015, 9:14:54 PM 

The negro question

 
black Apr 18, 2015, 11:06:20 PM 

In reply to Commie

Wonderful

 
DAVE400 Apr 19, 2015, 3:42:55 AM 

In reply to Commie

Thanks for that.

 
Oilah Apr 19, 2015, 4:22:29 AM 

In reply to Commie

Sweet

I printed my copy. I love his clear and uncompromising stance on the matter.

 
Commie Apr 19, 2015, 4:45:52 AM 

In reply to Dave and Oilah

As a followup.

The historical black hole

 
Oilah Apr 19, 2015, 5:40:37 AM 

In reply to Commie

thanks

 
JayMor Apr 19, 2015, 8:07:21 AM 

In reply to Commie

OMG! I hadn't the foggiest! They successfully kept this aspect of him under the covers for such a long time. I certainly will radiate this about. Thanks Commie man.

--Æ.

 
Commie Apr 19, 2015, 9:18:39 AM 

In reply to JayMor

Yes they did. Didn't know either so this has been a surprise. Some good stuff out there. A very good friend and an avid science advocate sent this to me and I had to share.

On my way to Jamdown now.

 
Commie Apr 19, 2015, 10:02:07 AM 

In reply to JayMor

Check this as well. A bit more detail.

Einstein and Race

 
Curtis Apr 19, 2015, 2:47:25 PM 

Glad to see...

 
JayMor Apr 19, 2015, 2:56:15 PM 

In reply to Commie

Wonderful! Thanks again, man. I've saved it all off to access locally and to share.

Back to Jamdung again, eh? What, did you meet up with Big-batty Karen from Papine? Yuh know Southie (of the non-NZ kind) will be coming after you. lol Business again, eh? Do good, iyah, and be safe.

--Æ.

 
Commie Apr 19, 2015, 9:00:35 PM 

In reply to JayMor

Yeah...Jamaica is a good vibes.

Should go Glorias this trip.

 
StumpCam Apr 20, 2015, 5:04:28 AM 

In reply to JayMor

They successfully kept this aspect of him under the covers for such a long time.


That's the first thing that came to mind when I read this article! wink

 
Curtis Apr 20, 2015, 6:43:29 AM 

seems like Albie had more going on than just thinking about his relatives

that said, he who feels it knows it...and I guess it is a bit rare to hear mainstream recognition of a stark reality that the establishment does its best to keep on the down low

 
stallion Apr 20, 2015, 6:58:50 AM 

In reply to Commie

Black people are so insecure and uncomfortable in their own skins that they seek to co-opt Einstein, one of the most celebrated scientist in the world as one of their own, Really!

Time to ignore and stop reveling in this shit, black folks do not need great white folk to affirm our place in history.

Einstein was white, let's leave it at that, we have our own great and historic black folks.

 
black Apr 20, 2015, 7:34:51 AM 

In reply to stallion

Something I wonder if you have SHIT for brains

 
stallion Apr 20, 2015, 7:41:50 AM 

In reply to black

You are a very simple man that continues to try to address complex and intellectual problems, know your place.

Now Fcukk Off.

 
black Apr 20, 2015, 7:58:20 AM 

In reply to stallion

And you are a Fag from San Francisco

I bet your ASSHOLE is as big as Lake Erie lol lol

 
stallion Apr 20, 2015, 9:03:11 AM 

In reply to black

Now comments like this is what expected of you, try not to attempt to rise about your station ever again.

Cussing, nasty comments and dreaming of Rihanna is what we expect from you, keep up the good works and stop taxing your brain.

 
black Apr 20, 2015, 10:39:41 AM 

In reply to stallion

Hell yes!!! I like RI RI

Who is your favorite? Pee Wee Herman? big grin

 
JayMor Apr 20, 2015, 1:15:59 PM 

In reply to StumpCam

Read the comments after the second link Commie gave above; you'll see that the feeling is pretty universal.

--Æ.

 
Khary9 Apr 20, 2015, 1:59:46 PM 

In reply to Commie & Jaymor

Einstein’s speech shortly thereafter at Lincoln University was not a coincidence. At Lincoln University he declared: “The separation of the races is not a disease of colored people, but a disease of white people. I do not intend to be quiet about it.” But according to Fred Jerome, who has written extensively on Einstein’s collaboration with the organization “The American Crusade to End Lynching,” the press was quiet about this speech, letting it sink into “a historical black hole.” (“The American Crusade Against Lynching” was created in 1946 and headed by Paul Robeson. The organization was labeled a “communist front” by the FBI, and members, including Einstein, were branded as communist sympathizers.)


The reason so many don't know this aspect of Einstein's contributions in this area is precisely because of the Red Scare associated with the text in bold.

This and plenty other important multiracial cooperative works were similarly lost or forgotten for the same reason. And perhaps even more important to this board, the contribution of AfroCaribbean folk to left-wing organizations like the one featured here was immense and indispensable. Hubert H. Harrison from St. kitts, Cyril Briggs of Nevis, WA Domingo of Jamaica, Otto Huiswould of Guyana, Richard B. Moore of Barbados are but a few of an incredible cadre of radical West Indians who would have interacted with and led Einstein to these conclusions...

An excellent text on the contributions is Winston James' classic Holding Aloft the Banner

 
Commie Apr 20, 2015, 2:03:46 PM 

In reply to stallion

You are so offbase its sad.

It is critically important to equally establish that there were many white people who objected to the vile treatment of black people and indeed who spoke to it.

The thing about racism is that it affects all parties. The demonising of all 'whites' as part of an oppressive group is as bad as the marginalisation of all blacks.

This is just further proof that it took a concerted effort to sustain the impression that everyone was fine and dandy with the status quo even when they were not.

And knowing this is GOOD.

 
JayMor Apr 20, 2015, 3:08:09 PM 

In reply to Khary9

Here is chapter 5 of that James book, Khary. Even just the first two pages seem to support that West Indians punched above their weight in progressive thinking and radical organisations. Seems like the full book makes a real contribution to some of our recent history and would be a great addition to one's library. Thanks for sharing.

--Æ.

 
Khary9 Apr 20, 2015, 3:11:24 PM 

In reply to JayMor

Indeed, and very little of this information is shared and understood outside the halls of academia in the US...

And in my limited forays into Caribbean society, very little of this overall impact is remembered generally.

 
JayMor Apr 20, 2015, 3:43:06 PM 

In reply to Khary9

I seem to recall you being of the pedagoguery, so yuh haffe get busy! LOL. We all must do our part-- even imparting such info on message boards like this and blogs, etc., helps.

--Æ.

 
black Apr 20, 2015, 6:34:05 PM 

In reply to Commie

A lot of white people marched and shed blood during the Civil rights era

 
Khary9 Apr 20, 2015, 8:20:35 PM 

In reply to black

No "white people marched and shed blood during the Civil rights era."

Human beings rejecting racialization and the laws which uphold race and its stigma marched. A few of them were of European ethnicity, but most were of African and American ethnicities.

But here's the deal. The very labels themselves (white & black) are primary evidences of the crime against humanity, so why would a "White" people, originating from various stocks of economically disadvantaged European tribes, voluntarily throw away a title that has done them so well, in a financial sense? Those invested in their "whiteness" would never have marched. This is why I say human beings did. People who placed humanity and fairness above so-called race marched. Einstein was one such person.

 
black Apr 20, 2015, 8:38:57 PM 

In reply to Khary9

Sorry to say it, but the issue of race will never go away.

 
ponderiver Apr 21, 2015, 2:31:59 AM 

In reply to Khary9


The reason so many don't know this aspect of Einstein's contributions in this area are precisely because of the Red Scare associated with the text in bold.


excellent post and thanks for the link to the book

got to give the commiester his props, too for the original thread......... there is hope yet. cool