and crime have increased since the elections were over and all races are being targeted. What gives?!
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Guyana murder rate
In reply to Darkness
Averaging about 2 murders a day, insane
In reply to Runs
I do not get it...are the criminals now emboldened?
Have the PPP/C let their dogs loose?
what is up?
In reply to Darkness
Beats me, Ramjattan has made no comments about it
In reply to Darkness A bloke like u would get gratification with news like this, ent?!
In reply to Dukes
Please this was yesterday, a day too late and a dollar short. At least they are admitting the country is in the grip of a crime wave.
In reply to Runs
It doesn't matter...Ram-jaat's response is to take a way the vehicles from the Community Policing Groups because, according to him...."you can't use these things to fetch paddy"...and these vehicles were summarily handed over to the police to 'fight' crime.
Heard an Indian woman was arguing with a mini bus driver
about the fare she was being charged.
A black woman from the same bus slapped her and
said "This is our time now"
Maybe that's the thinking behind the crime wave.
In reply to Ridge
Did you "see" the slap in addition to "hearing" the argument?
In reply to Larr Pullo
Do you have to see everything to believe?
Don't live there, but someone I knew who was travelling
in the bus related the incident.
When you start off on the wrong foot you will trip and fall.
Love him or hate him but no one has been arrested or charged for the assault of Kwame on elections day and it was on video. No one has been arrested as yet for burning down the house in Sophia on elections night. The wrong message is being sent to the criminals and perhaps that is why they are so emboldened and we are seeing the results. The government needs to act and fast! They must send a message to the criminals that there is NO free pass.
THE RULE OF LAW MUST BE UPHELD!
In reply to Darkness
The message was sent dude 60 were freed
In reply to Runs
how you mean 60 freed?
In reply to Curtis
Let loose, released from prison
In reply to Larr Pullo
It reminds me of a story my Kenyan Indian mate told me.Jomo Kenyatta told the Africans,wherever you see an Asian,slap them if you feel like doing so.This he said in an independence speech after independence was given.
In reply to Runs
Dukes know about that? what was the reason given? "political prisoners" ? I know Ramoutar commuted a sentence on a person that killed a young child. Is that a GT thing, freeing the captives?
In reply to Curtis
Banas all I know is 60 prisoners were freed and a crimewave ensued after. Draw your own conclusions
In reply to Runs
Issue is where is the support for young people who make non-violent mistakes, hopefully present administration could address...cyaan just let them go after they het a bit more hardened in the joint
In reply to Curtis
Check the ages of the overwhelming perpetrators of violent crime.
In reply to Runs
Sounds like a disconnect between the courts and the politicians.
Courts should sentence based on the character of the the individual and past behavior, especially for young people.
In reply to Runs
REALITY
Approximately 40 prisoners who are between 15 and 25 were released on Friday June 12th.All of them were convicted of non-violent crimes.
Your comments could be charitably described as careless.
In reply to Dukes
that said, not sure of the level of assessment of young people's situation in GT, if you consider the quality of data and investment in this area
what then would contribute to the crime spike? Change in government? Perception that convicted young people are let free by new government? or time for a free-for-all?
In reply to Runs
Having read that article,what do you make of it?
Show us the analytical skills commensurate with your first class education you obtained at that premier high school???
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And it continues with no end in sight
In reply to Runs
What a sad state of affairs. New government, more murders.
Them bannas like they get "license to kill"
A wonder how this has happened all of a sudden.
Are they using the slogan "it is our time now"
In reply to Darkness
Whatever happened to your mantra "crime is everywhere"???
Alyuh gine get vex, but socialist N socialist oriented societies cannot manage crime! Me seh suh. Just look at those societies....look at the cities in the us where a democrat is running things.
This post could've been written by Darkness a mere six weeks ago.
Human beings commit crimes all over the world here in Canada crime has gone up. What is wrong with you idots?? If crime is a huge problem in America what would make you think crime wont be a problem in Guyana?
Jackrasses dont seem to understand per capita crime. They would just bawl, there's crime everywhere. It seems like the top ranks in the GPF dont know the concept of proactive crime fighting in a sustained manner....constables should be out patrolling, especially at certain times, not in the station drinking mauby n eating salaara! Look bannas, im flicking tired of this shoite...i gwine keep this simple n say, 'KEEP GT TIDY n ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THAT MUNICIPALITY....things will get better'. N this again, who vex, vex - simple strategies work, but socialistic oriented individuals just scoff at them. When i heard ramjattan say, we gine have this strategy n that strategy, i just started laffing. Minister, just have the GPF be proactive n keep granny N naany safe. Now, for my dhall cookup rice with cornbeef!
In reply to JohnDoe
What is Canada's population compaed to Guyana.
In reply to granite
Yuh asking me??? That is a Darkness-like post............ well it was until six weeks ago.
Runs! Buddey, it seems like u are not giving up on GT!? Good for u, as i have observed that fellas from the city are more patriotic.....whereas those from Wakenaam Island, arent that forgiving! Hmmm, wonder what that Canadian bloke, ridge might say?!
In reply to BeatDball
Have vested interests there and go often so I follow happenings closely.
In reply to Runs Good for u sah, i but haven't been back since '86! My biggest regret is that i should have travelled back every 2 to 3yrs.
here is how the freedom fighters explain the crime - the oppression on the small brother has resulted in him taking what rightfully belongs to him from the upwardly mobile business brothers.
lazy motherfcukers who don't like to work would rather kill and rob...
In reply to Curtis
Yep
does anyone know the names of the prisoners released on President Granger's assumption to office and what they are up to currently?
I think is was 60 of them...
what some people fail to understand is that the bad elements of the police and army have and continue to rob business people; and as this has been a political strategy for years, there are some seasoned, well-trained bandits that benefit from political protection
In reply to Curtis
Shh bro they will call you names
In reply to Darkness
Hope this helps
This article is dated June 17th which means they were released Friday June 12th and are all in the SKYE program.
Of course I know the impression you are trying to peddle but this article makes that narrative unlikely.
In reply to Curtis
Allyuh dus really post some obvious BULLCRAP.
You living outside of Guyana and talking bout political strategy of having people in the police and army robbing business people.
Now if you are not in Government and you have your followers do this,one would have thought it would be in the Government's interest to go after those bandits,torture them to show that it is the opposition behind it and use that as a propaganda tool.
How does it help the Incumbent Government for the crime wave to be high?
Obviously it does not.Are you suggesting that the PPP/C is behind the crime wave by getting their supporters to rob and kill fellow PPP/C supporters in Berbice and elsewhere??
What is amazing is that Runs seems to agree with you!!!!!!!!!
In reply to Curtis Socialist societies create class envy, ergo, nuff crime.
On a serious note though, the police do seem to be catching the perpetrators of these most recent crimes. An improvement of sorts. That's not to take away from the ultimate improvement of creating a society where these crimes are a rarity.
In reply to JohnDoe $Businessmen should be able to sleep with both eyes closed.
At the way they are being eradicated in Guyana, they should declare Businessmen "Endangered Species"...pretty soon they will give up pursuing enterprise. It does not make sense to toil and then get killed for the spoils by people who have no respect for human lives.
In reply to Dukes
Of course I know the impression you are trying to peddle but this article makes that narrative unlikely.
hahahahah,,get the chip off your shoulder sir! the statements made by the same set a people who draped the caskets of criminals in the Guyana flag and called them heroes! the same set a people that called murderers freedom fighters!! you good yeah!
but where are the names?
listen there is no democracy without the right to question...
In reply to BeatDball
Being a businessman in Guyana is a scary, stressful occupation. Any visible signs of wealth or success makes you a target.
this is really fcuked up now..every facking day killings and multiple robberies!!!! WTF!
Dukes head stuck in sand..hopefully he come up for air sometime soon..
but in all seriousness this out of hand now...hard working people are being robbed and losing their lives...why has the crime wave sky rocketed with the new government???
In reply to Darkness
Murder rate up 12%!!!!
Oh wait that's for the first five months of the year. Yuh can't really blame the new government for the first five months of the year now can you???
In reply to Darkness
You guys beginning to sound like Republicans in 09 when Obama first came into office. A how many ever trillion dollar economy was on a death spiral and because he didn't wave a magic wand and turn it around right away they were jumping up gleefully shouting TOLD U SO!!!
In reply to Runs Very sad state of affairs.
Bandits kick down door, terrorise Glasgow family
July 1, 2015 | By KNews | Filed Under News
A Glasgow, East Bank Berbice family is now severely traumatised after bandits invaded their home on Monday evening and terrorised the occupants.
According to the home owner, 33-year-old Virginia Persaud called Sirika, at the time she was with her son, 14, daughter, 3, and her 68-year-old father who is a pensioner. She stated that around 22:00 hrs, she along with her daughter and father had retired to bed. Her son was still up watching television.
They were aroused by the sound of her car alarm which she found strange. She called out to her son to bring the key so that she could take off the alarm. However, without warning, they felt the house start to shake and before they could comprehend what was taking place they felt the front door started to rock.
It quickly became evident that bandits had kicked down the door and entered the house. The four men then proceeded to beat the woman and her two children whilst using an abundance of expletives. The family was brutalised as the thieves demanded money, gold and car keys. The woman stated that she shouted for thief and help but one of the bandits fired a shot to keep her quiet. The men threatened to kill them if they did not comply.
The woman stated that the commotion aroused her father who was in another room. The man armed himself with a cutlass and tried to confront the bandits, but he was overpowered.
The men subsequently left with only the car keys, after she continued to shout for help. The family was rushed to the New Amsterdam Hospital where they were treated and later sent away.
Persaud was struck on her head and other parts of her body. The wound on her head required four stitches. Her sons head was also lacerated and subsequently had to be sutured.
The matter was reported and the police responded promptly, arresting several persons, one of whom has reportedly been positively identified. Investigations are continuing.
See David...the kick down door thingy you talked about yesterday.
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Got him now let's see if he gets convicted.
While you would prefer that they didn't occur at all, it's looking like the police are enjoying a near 100% solve rate of these latest crimes.
Why they were unable to solve crimes in the past I don't know. Perhaps these are Lumumba's boys and Lumumba is no longer able to put a call in to the police to back off.
In reply to JohnDoe
George Hopkinson is a nasty piece of work.
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Freddie on the GPF
In reply to Runs
wow, Freddie take up a new cause. Good for Freddie.
In reply to Curtis
He may be onto something here, like his reasoning.
In reply to Runs
I wonder then why the crime spike?
Could the police be getting some spoils from the robberies?
In reply to Runs
Reasoning? I think Freddie is an apologist. He is already making excuses for the government's inability/unwillingness to arrest the crime situation. Now tell me...what has changed in the last month and a half? They have gutted the ministries of PPP-ites, they have lambasted all and sundry with allegations of theft, misappropriation, mismanagement. For the most part the police department has remained steadfast. And Poor Uncle Freddie, seeing that the writing is on the wall, is chiming in early.
He muses that the police force will destroy the credibility of the government. Now this is comical...because the government reminds me of the PNC regime of old. And what credibility did they have????
It is regrettable that in modern day, there is blatant race-based crimes committed on hapless, helpless Indians, who have not the police, not the government, not the community, no one to protect them. And without the ability to protect their lives, their families and livelihoods, these people are walking dead.
Now why can't we hear the chant "Indian lives matter" in Guyana? Is it not racism where the preponderance of crimes are committed by one race against another race. Where the police is of the same race as the perpetrators. Where the perpetrators are often times the former police themselves. Where the hell is the government in talking about this issue? Sometimes we have to stop sugar coating bullshit and call a spade a spade.
Lets see if the Ramjattan has the balls to enact measures to protect the people, as he promised in pre-election campaign. Already Freddie questions his ability. I didn't need Freddie to do that...according to David I am too negative...according to me, I am just stating the obvious, and if it is negative, don't fault me.
Now watch the ride.
Case in Point.
July 2, 2015 | By KNews | Filed Under Court Stories, Features / Columnists, News
There have been several reported incidents of bandits trailing persons from city banks and robbing them. The police apprehended one of them, Sherwin Trotman. They believe that he had ridden the getaway motorcycle after Mahaica rice farmer,
Charged: Sherwin Trotman
Charged: Sherwin Trotman
Hardat Kissoon, was robbed and killed.
Kissoon, a father of three, was fatally shot during a minibus robbery at University of Guyana Road, Turkeyen, after he was trailed from a city bank where he had encashed a cheque for $500,000.
Trotman, an excavator operator, was yesterday arraigned at the Georgetown Magistrates Courts charged with the capital offence of murder.
Trotman, 32, of Lot 45 Section D, South Turkeyen, allegedly murdered Kissoon while in the company of another on June 1, last.
He was not required to plead to the indictable charge after it was read to him by Magistrate Ann Mc Lennon.
Trotman was remanded to prison until July 8 and will appear at the Sparendaam Magistrates Court.
The defendant, who was unrepresented, explained to the court that he was never taken on an Identification Parade. He said that they are no witnesses or statements in the matter.
Trotman recalled that he was arrested and shown a video obtained from Close Circuit Television (CCTV). He explained that while watching the video he saw two men on a motorcycle. However, he emphasized that he was unable to make out the images on the video because they were blurred.
Trotman claimed that he was interrogated by Assistant Superintendant of Police, Michael Caesar and
Murdered: Hardat Kissoon
Murdered:
Hardat Kissoon
Sergeant Subaru. He pointed out that the officers asked him if he had killed the man and he replied in the negative.
It was then the officers informed him that they were going to arrest him because he was the rider.
The murder accused also claimed that Sergeant Seeram gave him a phone and asked him to call his relatives to bring $2M at Diamond Station for his release.
Police Prosecutor, Deniro Jones, said that the incident was captured on CCTV camera.
Kissoon, 42, of Cane Grove, Mahaica, East Coast Demerara was shot and killed around 14:30hrs, by a bandit posing as a passenger in the minibus he was travelling in, when another man in the vehicle requested to get off.
As the man was passing Kissoon, he pulled out a firearm and held the rice farmer at gunpoint and demanded a bag that he had in his possession.
A struggle ensued over the bag during which Hardat Kissoon was shot to his chest and the perpetrator escaped with the bag.
Kissoon lay dead in the back seat of the minibus until his body was transported to the Georgetown Public Hospital Corporation (GPHC) where he was officially pronounced dead on arrival.
In reply to runout
Word
In reply to runout
The Meadow Brook accountant was Indian? The North Ruimveldt pensioner? The carwash owner who was abducted and shot? The Nandy Park miner?..... and that's just off the top of my head.
In reply to JohnDoe
Dude...I said the preponderance of crimes.
In reply to runout
Dude, there were about 8-10 crimes in which the victims were shot in recent weeks. I've listed four that were committed against non-Indians so how you come up with the preponderance of gunshot crimes are committed against Indians???
is it time to bring back "Roger?"
In reply to JohnDoe
My fren....listen...you are talking about victims who were shot in the weeks gone by...I am talking about a systemic, blatant, overt violent transgressions against Indians primarily. And these people have no recourse. When these thieves come, they chop, they stab, pummel and that is the least of the pain. The psychological scars, the fear, the injustice is never erased. Are you only counting gunshots????
Now take your time, and extend that wonderful synopsis to 10-20-30 years and see where the stats lead you. See how many Indians are summarily violated in the confines of their homes, in the middle of the night, defenseless, they are stripped of their livelihood, their lives and their dreams?
Take a look and see how many Black homes are invaded, and compare that to how many Indian homes are invaded. See the perpetrators, if and when they are caught...try to identify them on their race. And when you are done lets talk.
Granny scales high fence to escape gun-toting bandits pregnant woman beaten, overseas visitors left Port Mourant home seconds before attack
July 2, 2015
THE invasion of 10 armed bandits forced two women, including a 65-year-old grandmother to scale six-foot fences in a bid to escape the robbery attack at Seventh Street, Johns Settlement in Port Mourant, Corentyne.Just after 01:00 hr on Wednesday morning, Dara Singh, aged 38 years, was offloading several items, including two tractors from a container.
Dara Singh was dragged from under a tractor, beaten and robbed
Dara Singh was dragged from under a tractor, beaten and robbed
He had engaged the services of several persons from the neighbourhood, to assist with the task. They had just completed the offloading when his overseas-based brother-in-law along with his wife, left the premises seconds before bandits struck.
After they drove away in the car, six men ran into the yard, saying: No body move.
Me run under the tractor and hide. One of the other bandits say, look the owner gone and hide under the tractor. They started to beat me under the tractor, before dragging me into the kitchen where they told me to kneel. They asked for the money and the gold. Me say you all nah do me nothing. This is all I have in my pocket $700,060 the container money.
But Singh noted that the men, some armed with shotguns and a pistol, cutlasses, and iron were dissatisfied with the amount, and demanded more money and jewellery.
The intruders reportedly asked for Singhs overseas-based guest, who had moments before left the home.
Singh recalled being taken to his bedroom before he was returned to the kitchen where he was constantly broadsided with cutlasses.
Sharaz Azaz shows the iron bar which was used by a bandit to inflict injuries to his head
Sharaz Azaz shows the iron bar which was used by a bandit to inflict injuries to his head
According to him, his helpers along with members of his family, which amounted to 12 persons, were all held against their will for almost 45 minutes, as an additional four men kept watch from the outside.
Meanwhile, Shavraj Azaz had just finished helping out when the bandits rushed into the yard. He was told to lie before a bandit armed with an iron rod inflicted several injuries to his head, forcing him to comply.
Kamalie Devi Khalicharan saw the bandits entering their yard, and being fearful, she did what was a normally impossible task. She scaled two separate six-foot fences, before seeking refuge in a neighbours home, two streets away. Her mother-in-law Dolarie Sewghair, was not to be left behind although her son Dars life was in danger. She,
One of the tractors which was being offloaded from the container when the bandits struck
One of the tractors which was being offloaded from the container when the bandits struck
too, scaled the fence before running for safety.
However, Sabita Singh could not join the two elderly women in their hurdle jumps. Instead, she stayed behind and was gun-butted to her face. She is six months pregnant.
After the bandits had left and the family re-grouped, they discovered missing an additional US$600, a rip saw, two amplifiers, two gold chains and four finger-rings, among other items.
Two youth are in custody and are assisting the police with the investigation.
There was no gun involved here...so I guess this doesn't make the list.
In reply to runout
I thought this thread was about the last four to six weeks.
Overall I believe the stats would support your argument when talking about the last 10-20-30 years but why over the last 20+ years in particular was nothing done to create the type of society where we no longer need to be having these discussions???
In reply to JohnDoe
Precisely. That is why I think that it is time enough for folks to speak out against crimes, the perpetrators, the collaborators and the facilitators. That includes the criminals, the police and the blind government. The government is clueless. Although it knows the crime situation, it does nothing because the folks are cowering in fear against victimization.
Now John, do you think that Indians are summarily targeted in violent home invasions? Can you put a dollar amount to this criminal activity? Can there be repatriations, or a victim fund set up to help get these people back on their feet after their lives has been decimated?
In reply to runout
hundreds of millions are transferred from one set to the other.
back to the 70s and 80s ??
In reply to Bigzinc
Yeah, for kicks, I would like the gov't to assess the economic impact back to the 70's-80's. However the victims fund should only benefit survivors/victims.
In reply to runout
i read this somewhere a long time ago.
In reply to runout
No, I think those who are perceived to have money and jewelry hiding under the mattress are targeted.
In reply to Bigzinc
BZ...the sad thing is that it doesn't take much to arrest this situation. With all the smarts of the administration, past and present, don't tell me that they can't devise a plan to combat this epidemic. If this thing was classified as a disease, then Guyana would have been quarantined from the rest of the world.
In reply to JohnDoe
Fair enough...however are you saying that blacks don't have money and jewelry in their homes? And why is it that they don't get robbed again?
In reply to runout
back in the day, it was tolerated as a way to ease the pressure; a kind of safety valve.
In reply to runout
Most blacks with money live in urban settings. It would be difficult to pull off a home invasion without alerting dozens of surrounding households.
In reply to JohnDoe
You are making some presumptuous statements...however that said, you are probably in the know more than me.
That said, dozens of people are usually alerted when this nonsense is perpetrated on the victims...however the people have no means of defending themselves. and even when they call the police the response is usually too late, or wholly ineffective. Something has to be done...because there is no way in modern society this travesty should be tolerated. People deserves better.
Perhaps it is time to start a formal "Boycott Guyana Until Security Improves" campaign.
In reply to runout
The bold text is what I see as presumptuous. I was from a predominantly black neighborhood with a few Indian families, 2 Portuguese families and my family being among a few of the mixed families. I can remember like yesterday, the years of '96 & '97 when our neighbourhood was targeted by thieves. My sister was traumatized from a few close encounters. I was 10-11 then.
No race was spared. And JohnDoe is partially right. As I got older, I understood why our neighbourhood was targeted. Home Invasions (sometimes violent but thankfully never deadly) became a huge issue for the following reasons:
(1) Concentration of Middle Class families who appeared to be wealthy or in possession of sig cash/jewellery/valuables;
(2) Limited Security. - Since there was no prior history of crime, the community in general was quite carefree. No barbed wires, in some cases no fences between homes and no grills. Very few house had guard dogs;
(3) Again, a relatively carefree lifestyle unaware of certain dangers. - Windows left open into the wee hrs of the morning, doors not bolted shut. Everyone was just happy.
First family to be targeted was my Uncle, a goldsmith, then my neighbour a Vendor from the market, our family luckily survived a break in at our home/family business (General Store).
I see nothing wrong in saying that bandits go after those they perceive to be in possession of wealth.
In reply to runout
I do however agree with you that this situation should not be tolerated. It's sickening and even more sickening are the insinuations that this is an "Is we Time" phenomenon.
In reply to runout
The last government pushed under the rug and denied it was a problem. So far the current government is clueless or refuse to handle. I will say this until it happens to you or your family, it is probably hard to feel true empathy for the aggrieved. Seems to be the same way again. Do not forget that the criminals, mostly feel empowered to commit these acts and have clever lawyers who quickly come to their defense.
Crime is the most important issue facing the country, not corruption, not nepotism, not racism. It harms the country immensely of billions as many investors are too scared to venture in. Life is too cheap in Guyana.
In reply to Cardiac
Simply by letting the community aware of crime and precautions that needs to be put in place will be a start. No one has done anything of the sort, in the past I know they had vigilante squads. That will not prevent the murders and robberies of today however. These fellas are on motorbikes or cars tailing their victims in broad daylight and robbing and murdering. The GPF and governments have refused to deal with it.
Until the population start using plastic and not have hoards of cash on them for whatever reason s. They will attract the bad guys.
In reply to Runs
Until the population start using plastic and not have hoards of cash on them for whatever reason s. They will attract the bad guys.
that will only breed another class of crooks.
Plus, who is going to tell Guyanese to get rid of their gold??
the solution is that the Gov't has to crack down on crime! That is their job and what they are being paid to do.
In reply to googley
They refuse to prioritise.
Shall i, again, sing LKY's tune? Actually, it's quite simple - give the citizens, physical N economic security.
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And it continues
Pleez give her majesty back the reigns.....cant take it anymore.
In reply to BeatDball
Place like the wild west, guns galore
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No end in sight, wild west
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Businessmen being targeted and wiped out
For .75 million peeps - too much murder n mayhem. If i were there i would want to get out of that cuntry! But, i will say again, the solution is simple.....have GT litter free, no flyers or large posters on streets (use newspapers to do yer advertising), culverts clean, traffic laws enforced, spot checks on cook shops, get vagrants off the streets, no loud music, etc. Have a sustained enforcement for 6 months and if there isnt improvement in every which way, then i guess i, beatdball was wronger than wrong! But, that is too simple, it's - lewwe tell the citizens that we have a grand plan. This admin. didnt come in with a take charge attitude. They just want to show how the past admin was $$corrupt and they are starting out with ineptness. People, just look what mayor guilliani did....prior to his admin there was 2200 homicides per year, then it came down to less than 600!!!!! Assk yerself: Gee, what did he do? It wasnt a grand plan, but KISS! Btw, luv what Jamaica is doing - have a sustained crackdown on petty crimes in Kingston.
Or maybe it could have been an accident. I am not surprised.....
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In reply to JimBob
Looks like Jagdeo posting pon de board disguising himself as Jeremy and using poor English as a cover.
The carnage continues...however David is more concerned about BJ's posting than addressing the issue. If the Ramjattan can't handle the wuk, then give it to someone else. The GOG should 'hire' some contractors to take care of this problem...but then that will not allow business as usual for the criminals. Hence the disincentive. The redistribution continues at a steep price for the business owners, who for the most part are Indos. The blue print is the same. The script is working like a charm.
Criminals attack. People are maimed and killed. Police response slow and inefficient. Investigations are continuing. The gov't remains clueless. This is looking like it is a concerted effort from the top down to terrorize and handicap the people.
In the mean time the Police are engaged in massive celebrations. They marching and prancing. What is wrong with this picture?
In reply to runout
you mean like Roger Khan???
In reply to Dukes
You still stuck on Roger?
Tell the damn government to get off their collective asses and do something. You have a problem, well, perhaps for some it is a problem...for others just a major opportune time to redistribute the wealth...and the government is at sea...behaving like drunken sailors, without a clue, without a paddle and without a care.
In reply to runout
We're thinking alike except that I believe the effort is being led by George Hopkinson!!!
The days of people cowering in fear in their own homes are now here.
How long will it stay?
But the disappointing part of it is that it took the police one hour for the first two ranks to get here from Leonora Police Station. People from Herstelling, Georgetown, Parika, all over, reached here before the police. What they were doing, I dont know, the distraught relative related.
Them PO-LICE too tired from all that marching and celebration...the Po-lice lady sez to wait for she to get a pen an paper. This is most comical...it is like the comedy series Po-lice Academy.
This is Ramjattan's response to the rising crime situ??? Close the bars at 2am... that will solve the crime. Full Stop.
Now he is saying that the ministers were stealing cars??? Incredible. They should sue his silly ass.
That is why some of his ministers were stealing cars and passing budget line items and all manners of things, just disregarding the financial laws of the country.
Ramjattan said that in spite of the criticisms, he is going to do all that it takes to reduce the high crime rate and will continue to hold his ground on the matter.
I am well aware that these small things will help out and it will lead to the big things. Drinking at very late hours does a lot of harm and leads to a lot of things and I dont need studies to tell me that. There are a set of bloggers saying you have to get studies done to show correlation between the crime and the night life. Well, what studies do you require to know that drinking has a direct impact on domestic violence especially in rural areas and where you have the estates and so on? What studies we need to have to prove that where there is a lot of alcohol there is a lot of violent crimes and other things? .
So what should I do? Because people talk about their rights as against law and order I must simply say oh we shouldnt enforce it just leave it? Oh no sorry. Not me. That is not going to be my approach to this crime solving at all. And it is a very serious matter out there
Ramjattan reiterated that he isnt here for the fame but to get a job done and will do what it takes for that to be accomplished.
Ramjattan getting schooled...I like the paddle boat captain steering a cruise ship analogy. This man is an jokeer of no mean reckoning. I mean he is a lawyer by training, so why act like a clown?
[b]Drinking will continue after 2 am regardless of the curfew
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Dear Editor,
Minister Khemraj Ramjattan made his first ‘big’ move to reduce crime and domestic violence, have a better work force and provide an economic solution for Guyana all in one decision. It is clear that the Minister does not have hard scientific data to back up his conclusions, so I will provide some assumptions from my observation as an average citizen.
1.Most crimes are committed by 100% sober people with a clear plan to kill and rob; they are not leaving bars at 2am to do this. This one is obvious and does not need any data.
2.Domestic violence that is rooted in alcohol consumption generally happens in the rural areas in small rum shops and bottom houses. So it would have been better if he had put a limit on DDL and Banks DIH production to make any impact here.
3.Road accidents are caused by inexperienced drivers who have bribed the police for their driver’s licence, a situation which is compounded by the police not enforcing the traffic laws.
4.Managing work performance is a dynamic between the employers and employees that has to be carried out by them and should not be policed by the state. The Minister is clearly showing signs of interfering in people’s freedoms and private lives.
5.People have the right to spend their hard-earned money however they wish; the government has no right to even comment on this. Again, he is interfering in people’s private lives and the private sector.
Drinking and partying will continue after 2am regardless of the curfew; you will see an increase in underground parties that are unregulated and thus provide a greater risk to our young people, since they will not be recognized by the police. There will be loss of revenue and the circulation of money will be reduced. It is my projection that the local economy will lose approximately $154,000,000 weekly.
Minister Ramjattan is confirming my position during elections, that the coalition members are backward thinkers with visionless strategies that will take our country down the wrong path. As I said before, this government consists of paddle boat captains steering a cruise ship.
Yours faithfully,
Malcolm Watkins
Immediately implement stop and frisk and other crime deterrent policies. It is out of control, the authorities do not have a game plan. Closing bars at 2 am will not deter these blatant daylight robberies and murders. The last murder saw cops showing up 1 hr after they were summoned. The Police Station is 10 minutes away, that is unacceptable. The past government were unable to protect the citizens, so far the present are also unable to protect.
In reply to Runs 10 minutes away? N i gwine bet u that the police chief didn't get involved by bawling at the police station chief to query the snail's response....ergo, no follow up by senior ranks N the incompetence continues......
In reply to BeatDball
Probably had no vehicles or wusser yet vehicles without gas? Or maybe no weapons at said station. Banas you may laugh but am privy to all these information coming from such a background.
In reply to Runs Well then i will have to agree with the brigadier - pay the foreigners n let them show our boys of how to do crime fighting....i give up, no more comments; i will now hang out in the rum shop, done.
Maan...sack the police...bring on some young guns
Breaking News
Granger to hold high-level meeting on crime
1 hour ago
Amid a surge in crime over the last few weeks, President David Granger will tomorrow convene a high-level security meeting. A statement from the Ministry of the Presidency follows: As his first order of business, on his return from the CARICOM .
In reply to Runs
Good going. Also, that 2 am bar closing is not a bad idea. On special occasions, such as national events, the time can be extended to 3 am.
I swear these guys make the bumbling PPP look good. I mean Rohee didn't have a clue, and these fellas are more clueless. Go figure!
Guyanese peeps book your tickets...we ain't poor again...we won't need to kill each other anymore....are will be RICH according to our erstwhile Prezzy...first was security and now is wealth. Who buying the next round here?
In reply to runout
olitriks banas, tell the people what they want to hear
In reply to Runs
I hope you keep that Guyana passport...you will be a rich man...champagne and caviar coming your way.
In reply to runout
Well by now you should know am a pragmatic fella
I'm sure this will be rubbished as Conspiracy theory, but I 'll still go ahead.
Anyone thinks there may be a link to recent cocaine busts, most notably the shrimp, and the execution styled hits of a few individuals (businessmen of dubious reputations)?
If you don't think theres a connection...what if I told you to check the local papers and you'll see 5 vehicles (Mercedes SLK, Ford Raptor, Audi TT Quattro, Raptor 3 wheeled vehicle and Nissan SUV) all for sale by a 'businessman' who recently got off from shooting someone outside Palm Court?
In reply to Cardiac
They really have to get a handle on this drug trafficking business so we can distinguish between "real" murders and those who deserve to die.
In reply to Cardiac
Cardiac it is on to speculate that the killings are due to drugs...but, could the businessman who advertised the vehicles be a motor car dealer as oppose to a drug dealer?
And the businessmen who were killed, are they all drug dealers? And since they know that the people will come after them, could they not have hired/protected themselves from the ensuing violence? Why wait like sitting ducks? And then if that is the case, is the Po-lice working with the executioners so that they ensure that there is no response? Your take.
In reply to runout
(1) He is most certainly NOT a motor car dealer.
(2) I never said that any of them are drug dealers so I dunno where you going with 'all'.
(3) Have you ever seen how lax businesses in Guyana are with security. Imagine workers walking to the bank with millions in a bag then getting robbed. I see many a bad man in GT posing off in public fearless. You could call them sitting ducks too.
Once again, that 'businessman' is anything but a businessman. Lets just say, when I see him in public I leave for fear of being classified by association. I did the same the night before he 'allegedly' shot someone outside of PC.
Not saying GT isn't in a serious period of crime, but to ignore the presence of underworld figures in GT is just playing blind.
In reply to Cardiac
Souljaboy and his crew had better create a serious intelligence gathering unit -- resources on the street need to be developed and nurtured. The unit must be above corruption and another unti for cleanup must be also on standby. Criminals will run amok if they have no fear of retribution.
What must not stand in the way of eradicating this violence are political connections. Political correctness is not going to cut it when men are shooting helpless victims in the head etc. A message must be sent.
All those reports of poor police response to recent crimes must be responded to with accountability. Investigate why the response was slow. Was it because of infrastructure, training of plain fear?
Reshuffle commanders where necessary. If the people lose confidence in this government when it comes to security, then this is going to be a big problem.
In reply to JimBob
That's it right there.
In reply to JimBob
Did you say IF??? Lets try it again...
In reply to runout
Question: Have you lost confidence? And if Yes, was this before or after May 11?
In reply to Cardiac
Cardiac, you must admit that this bumbling administration hardly infuses confidence. These guys are not up to the task. I am sorry.
Do you have confidence in this administration?
Is this a new thing now that the head must be sent on leave for an audit to be completed? This is ridiculous. These guys are ruining the organization.
Wrong house if you ask me...
Couple robbed 3 houses from Ramjattan
July 10, 2015 By GuyanaTimes
Fifty-year-old Nandkishore Lulla, who is the owner of the Price Rite Store on Regent Street, and his wife, had just arrived in front of their Lot 14 Delph Street, Campbellville home when the incident occurred about 18:30h on Thursday.
Ramjattan, who lives at Lot 10 Delph Street, was in Parliament at the time of the incident. According to Lulla, he had parked his Canter GNN 7272 in his driveway and his wife had exited the vehicle to open the gate when a gold Toyota Spacio drove up behind him and out came the two armed bandits who pounced on the pair.
The bandits opened fire on the businessman, but luckily, the bullet missed him and hit the vehicle instead. They succeeded in escaping with over $100,000. I was coming home and I parked the vehicle there and then a car came and parked behind me and then two persons came out, one from the drivers side and one from the passengers side both had guns and they came and took the gun and he shoot inside the vehicle but it did not hit me, the businessman related.
They grabbed whatever I had in my hand, my lunchbox, she had her bag, she had her phone inside there, and we had some cash also inside there about $100,000 and $150,000. They asked to give us everything and I gave them what I had because I was scared for my life, the traumatised resident explained. Lulla said the bandits immediately fled the scene thereafter as neighbours and passersby began to respond to the sound of the gunshot. The businessman believed he was trailed from the store.
Meanwhile, when the perpetrators departed, Lulla immediately sought help from the security guard on duty by the Ministers home. He said the guard advised him to make a report at the Kitty Police Station; however, Lulla thought the best thing to do at that time was to return to the store on Regent Street to change the locks on the door.
They had the keys to the store; the keys to my house so I thought the best thing to do was to go change the locks, he said. When Guyana Times arrived at the scene around 20:00h, the businessman was only then about to make a report at the station.
Judge and husband brutally beaten and robbed in gated community with security
wtf's going on? Forget the debate about whether there's a spike or not, it's open season on anyone with money. Why is this?
Is there a perception with certain criminal elements that with regime change there will be a blind eye on tekking from the rich?
In reply to Curtis
It is called REDISTRIBUTION. All those who are considered rich supposedly 'stole' from the people....so the criminal enterprise, embolden by the po-lice force, is in full operation. Ramjattan is more clueless than he appears.
In reply to runout
if what you say is correct, that just might be the reason he was appointed to that role
East Ruimveldt businessman shot in robbery
At about 2230h. last night, the police say that three men, one of whom was armed with a firearm, entered the business place of Christopher Moonsammy at Punt Trench Dam, East Ruimveldt, Georgetown, and held him up.
They took away an undisclosed sum of cash and escaped. Moonsammy was shot to his right hand during the incident and has been hospitalised.
Investigations are in progress.
Are there cases where investigations are NOT in progress???
it's a grass roots 'we time' mentality that unfortunately, has a lot of repercussions
btw, who is the deputy prez?
In reply to runout
I know that judge. That's a suspicious robbery. That gated community is not the easiest to just get into and pull off what those bandits did. Every yard has a guard on dutty. There's an armed police at the entrance and they have patrols. Was chatting with the relatives of a prominent judge today and they are equally baffled by how bandits gained access.
In reply to runout
This isn't new. Just that now it's more publicised. Probably sensational journalism and sensational politicians in new roles. At public hospital this had been the norm in the past 2 yrs, as well as other institutions like GT&T. But these things were usually settled internally without the public knitting much of it.
In reply to Darkness
I read that from another media source and could not believe it. Where is the professionalism that this new administration was supposed to bring?
In reply to runout Wonder if he's related to kenneth moonsammy, a former classmate of mine at EISS? Sad news, as it continues.......
In reply to BeatDball
The simple question for all:
Are the people better off today than they were 2 months ago?
What are the accomplishments of this admin so far?
Rice is dead. Sugar is dying. Businesses are closing. GT clean-up has lost its luster. The people are gradually going back to their 'normal' ways. And it appears that there is death and destruction everywhere.
Dukes...have I covered the current situ comprehensively.
In reply to runout I agree 99.99%. These blokes didn't come in with a take charge attitude. They wanted to reinforce to the people of how $$$corrupt the past admin. was. So,GT clean-up has lost its vigor, eh? Well, I will say this N who gets vex, then be - Caribbean people don't know the meaning of, SUSTAIN, RANDOM, PERIODIC REINFORCEMENT, etc.
In reply to BeatDball
Meh bredda...the ppp was inept...but these chaps make them ppp-guys look sophisticated.
After parking in his spot, four females came to me and said I was under arrest, then proceeded to aggressively assault me by punching me in the face, kicking me about the body and dragging me half naked as they had already ripped off my underwear and pants.
I ended up in the hospital after being unconscious apparently at their office half naked for more than 20 minutes. The doctor said I have two perforated discs, a hairline fracture to the hip, and bruises and lacerations about my body, the Canadian national explained.
What is wrong with this picture?
In reply to runout WTF - I don't get it. Something is missing....lemme backtrack a bit, that is still not the way for security/law enforcement officers to go about doing their job. This is totally facting acceptable - those jackrasses have to be FIRED.
The husband had to have his eye removed after the assault. Was this really a robbery or payback for something? The beating had to be really brutal for this to happen.
In reply to JimBob
I guess everyone now agrees there is a surge in crime. I suppose that's a start.
http://guyanachronicle.com/ramjattan-to-target-security-issues-in-mining-sector-sweeps-to-be-done-regularly-in-hinterland/
Is this man clueless...or is it that he has misguided priorities? Or he just want it to appear that he is doing something? Boots too big for him to fill.
In reply to JimBob Still, why is it happening, now - daiz the question?
Looks like some of the perps got caught.
Perhaps, I am being too suspicious here. Very convenient that some of those recent crimes are all linked to the one round up. Only one Glock they recovered? So, will these criminals now confess who was the mastermind behind their recent actions. Didn't Harmon allude that the recent surge in crime was being directed certain folks? Come sleuths what y'all think?
In reply to JimBob
To people like you this is a spectator sport but to me it is personal.That Judge is my best friend's daughter!!!!
In reply to Dukes
"Spectator Sport." WTF are you talking about? Took your meds today or are you going to revert to stupid comments again?
It's personal so you should be concerned that a thorough investigation is done or are you satisfied that the case is now "solved."
I was asking about this investigation the other day and look at what we have here. This is one to watch closely to see if there was any political connection and where it leads to. This man's family may finally have some closure.
The report alluded that the bus driver was somehow in collusion with the perps but was apparently spared the vigilantism.
Get these young lads to work. How about having them participate in the cleanup GT campaign?
It looks like Ewing's family might have closure after all just as I alluded the other day, let's see how far this goes. The former AG looked like quite the idiot in his press conference. This is the QC intelligentsia some of y'all boast about on this MB? Dumb as Fack this one!
Why y'all so quiet? Come forth and lets discuss these breaking news. How about the cocaine pilot...you knew this was the outcome anyway with that kind of money found on the plane. Get those Orange jumpsuits ready.
This is some cold hearted stuff right there.
In reply to JohnDoe
In reply to camos
Are you Guyanese or Jamaican?
In reply to Dukes
Yardie! why?
In reply to camos
You seem to know Guyanese politics quite well.
In reply to Dukes
I am a political junkie and Guyana is very interesting and unlike Barbados where posters think you have to be Bajan to participate in their political debate.
In reply to camos
You are very welcome to participate in any debate about Guyana.As a matter of fact I feel it is important for all of us to know what is going on in other countries in the region because we are all family.
Check your PM.
So now that they caught the killer and at least one of his paymasters. What should the punishment be for such a heinous act?
Police detained Kendalls spouse, Deochand Sookchand, reportedly after unearthing evidence that 56-year-old Kendall may not have been the victim of a robbery attempt.
Yet another case of a relative hiring some hungry belly lil boys to kill dey mattie???
WTF is any government supposed to do about that?
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In reply to JohnDoe
Execute the killers
In reply to JimBob
What luck,it's a shame they didn't get beaten to death,they deserved nothing less.When they stabbed the man,they meant to kill,fcuking Hyenas.
So after all the hullaballoo it turns out that most of these recent murders can be explained by this cartoon.
What a sick, immoral setta people Guyanese have turned out to be
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