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Why is a Black Man so popular in Republican circles?

 
black 2015-10-08 21:19:01 

Let me see who the real thinkers are.

 
Drapsey 2015-10-08 22:20:08 

In reply to black

To keep Donald Trump "quiet".

Watch how the honeymoon ends as soon as the Donald's popularity wanes to a manageable level.

 
black 2015-10-08 22:29:12 

In reply to Drapsey

So why not Jeb or Cruz or Rubio?

 
Drapsey 2015-10-08 22:42:31 

In reply to black

So why not Jeb or Cruz or Rubio?

You can answer your own question by looking at your own thread title.

If you can't, I'll give you a hint.

There's nothing to choose among those three.

 
black 2015-10-08 22:56:02 

In reply to Drapsey

There's nothing to choose among those three.


Why not? Cruz got elected with Tea Party support.

 
ProWI 2015-10-09 00:51:01 

In reply to black

In Republican circles, a black must deny himself by first denying other blacks in order to become acceptable in the party.

Think deeply about that.

For some help.

First you have to understand who the modern Republican party is. The present day Republican party is the old Democratic party of the south. It constitutes and is now dominated by either the old racists or the racist thinking of that element in the old Democratic party who resisted change and continue to resist change.

Many such people left the Democratic Party and, that switch in party affiliation, is expressed as some badge of honor in which you often hear them say "I used to be a Democrat", as if being a Democrat is bad.

No, it's because the Democratic party wanted change and to be more inclusive, but elements within it resisted aspects of the change and moved to the Republican party. The Republican party was also changing. But it changed from the party of Lincoln to the party of primarily whites who wanted to maintain total political and economic control for the white majority. They wanted things to remain as they were. That's still the attitude today, when they say they "want their country back" But back to what? To when?

As for most blacks who were primarily part of the party of Lincoln from the time of Reconstruction, they also started to shift their allegiance.

Some blacks - a very smaller number - as if caught up in a time warp, remained steadfast to the Republican party, believing it to be the party they had always thought it to be. Naturally, they have had to adapt to the changing Republican party and adopt some of the same policies and attitudes of the majority white Republican party to feel accepted. So you have the likes of a Ben Carson.

Ben Carson and other blacks like him, would always remain popular within the Republican party only if they are prepared to say the kinds of things and make the usual criticisms whites often direct towards blacks, especially those who want full inclusion and equal rights and similar opportunities as whites.

Why the GOP is and will continue to be the party of white people

 
dayne 2015-10-09 06:20:46 

In reply to ProWI
Agree

 
granite 2015-10-09 07:26:18 

Could possibly be a "coconut".

 
black 2015-10-09 08:05:11 

In reply to ProWI

In Republican circles, a black must deny himself by first denying other blacks in order to become acceptable in the party.

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Brilliant!

I was hoping this thread would drag on a little longer.

The rest of your post is on the money also.

 
black 2015-10-09 08:13:54 

In reply to ProWI

The "outsider" factor is also helpful

 
Khary9 2015-10-09 10:19:26 

In reply to black

For the same reason those on the right hate African Americans

 
Khary9 2015-10-09 10:26:36 

In reply to ProWI

Your analysis is mostly correct however it is stuck in the paradigm/polarity of whiteness and blackness. This is a never ending cycle that masks the critical issues at play- land, power & control.

Africa is a continent that largely remains in the hands of Africans, but that hold is tenuous. The Caribbean and many parts of the Americas are in the hands of Africans who have been accultured into blackness, hence they can be remote controlled by white power brokers of culture, education, finances, etc.

In this way Ben Carson doesn't represent a "good" black. He simply represents the fulfillment of what BLACK should be, as opposed to WHITE.

Never forget that during slavery, the most prized slave was described as loyal, hard-working, non-threatening & faithful.

Ben Carson is a Black man, as are posters like Black, but when will he and others recognize and hopefully defend their inner African?

 
carl0002 2015-10-09 10:29:40 

In reply to Khary9
What you mean, Ben Carson is like Samuel Jackson in Django?

lol lol

 
black 2015-10-09 10:38:10 

In reply to Khary9

Ben Carson is a Black man, as are posters like Black, but when will he and others recognize and hopefully defend your inner African?


I continue to support black people and their rights as human beings, I am not going to support criminals, if that is what you are implying.

 
black 2015-10-09 10:49:23 

In reply to Khary9

Why do you come here and start this nonsense?

 
Khary9 2015-10-09 10:55:44 

In reply to black

You asked the question. I answered from my POV. What? Are you against a plurality of voices? Are you against Democracy?

 
Khary9 2015-10-09 10:56:07 

In reply to carl0002

Exactly. But most of our kinsmen are.

 
black 2015-10-09 15:26:35 

Carson said, no one should put their religion before the constitution. Isn't that a contradiction? I thought it was the other way around, according to religious teachings?

 
Trinidave 2015-10-09 15:59:54 

In reply to black


Simple burh. Carson reinforces de racist beliefs of de extreme right. But he is Black, so he provides dem wid de shield. Dey can persist wid their racist ways, still puff dey chest and say, "Hey, this here Negro agrees wid us, he is one of dem, and he agrees wid us. Therefore we cannot be racist is this house negro agrees wid us."

 
black 2015-10-09 16:14:32 

In reply to Trinidave

Simple burh. Carson reinforces de racist beliefs of de extreme right. But he is Black, so he provides dem wid de shield. Dey can persist wid their racist ways, still puff dey chest and say, "Hey, this here Negro agrees wid us, he is one of dem, and he agrees wid us. Therefore we cannot be racist is this house negro agrees wid us."


Another good way of putting it.

 
Ayenmol 2015-10-09 22:45:44 

Same old nonsensical cycle, Everywhere you look there is a different reasoning as to why things aren't better. Why are things not better in Lands where Racial division plays little in the scheme of things?

In the absence of the Racial divide will the problems be solved? Will man finally be able to live in Security? Will School Shootings be a thing of the past? Will hunger end? Will Cancer be cured? Will Pharmaceuticals curb their greed?

Racism is just another of the many ills that plague the World. In the absence of Racism another issue will creep to the surface until man submits to the rightful Ruler who can fix them all.

Look at the big picture instead of being blinded by individual Spots in your Vision of why Man and his Government continues to sink from bad to worse.

 
POINT 2015-10-10 18:17:03 

Look Republican Politicians have to
Pander to the Tea Party et al ; to get support, Monetary & People going to hear them speak ; from the Radical People on the Right .

Once they become the Standard Bearer of the Republican Party , they they try to
moderate their views to attract people
who are Centrists .

In the case of Ben Carson he has to say the most outrageous things , like stating that he as once held up at a Popeye's Joint , and he told the Robber that he needed to go to the man on the other side of the Counter if he wanted money . This story of Carson is still being checked out .

Then WE have Clarence Thomas , who lied during his confirmation Hearings
and told lies about Anita Hill . HE
benefitted from Affirmative Action , but , he gets the job he wants , and does not want African Americans to benefit from Affirmative Action .

Of all the judges on the Supreme Court , Thomas is the most Conservative . HE is a genuine Oreo
Cookie , Black on the outside , but white on the inside . This is why he is beloved by the Republicans .

But I digressed , Ben Carson is a brilliant Neurosurgeon , but as a
Politicians , he is very much out of his League . As time goes on , this fact will soon become evident to most Americans .

I find it very amusing that President Obama kicked their Asses twice , all
of a sudden every Tom ; Dick & Harry in the Republican Party believes he can win because an African American kicked their Asses, not once but twice .

Since I have been living in this Country , it is the first time that
the Republican Party has had so many Kooks vying to be the Republican Party's Standard Bearer .

This did not happen to Hubert Humphrey ; Jimmy Carter ; Bill Clinton ; Mike Dukakis ; et al .
But Barack Obama an African American , became the President by beating
the Republicans Twice , and suddenly
everyone in the Republican Party thinks he can be the President .

 
black 2015-10-10 18:37:29 

In reply to POINT

But Barack Obama an African American , became the President by beating
the Republicans Twice , and suddenly
everyone in the Republican Party thinks he can be the President .


I don't think it's any of that. His white supporters genuinely like him, not because they see him as the Republican Barrack Obama, but because he is saying what they want to hear and he is an outsider.

His accomplishments automatically brought credibility to his campaign, all he had to do was get on the "crazy train."

 
black 2015-10-10 19:19:35 

Bengazi staffer fired for resisting efforts to target Hillary Clinton.

According to CNN

 
POINT 2015-10-11 10:43:16 

In reply to black


Look I have been living in this Country since Lyndon Baines Johnson ; and I
have never ever seen so many Republicans running to be the Republican Party's Standard Bearer .

I therefore stand by my statement , that The Republicans believe , that
if an African American , Obama kicked their Asses twice , anyone in the
Republican Party can get in the White
House .

 
black 2015-10-11 10:55:22 

In reply to POINT


I therefore stand by my statement , that The Republicans believe , that
if an African American , Obama kicked their Asses twice , anyone in the
Republican Party can get in the White
House .


They said bad things about him and hate him because he is black, but deep down, they knew he was a formidable candidate. The idea that anyone could be president is nonsense.

 
BeatDball 2015-10-11 12:01:07 

I guess the only place a black bloke can be conservatively orientated is either in the Caribbean or Africa! Or is it just an anomaly for a BB to be a conservative?!

 
Darkness 2015-10-11 14:14:22 

President Obama - Black American's greatest gift to White America and for all the wrong reasons.

The whole world got played at the expense of Black America.

 
black 2015-10-11 14:21:25 

In reply to Darkness

President Obama - Black American's greatest gift to White America and for all the wrong reasons.

I got this one

The whole world got played at the expense of Black America.

Explain this one

 
Khary9 2015-10-12 10:46:06 

In reply to Darkness

The whole world got played at the expense of Black America.


EXACTLY