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HEADLINE: Gayle hopeful of Test return in 2016
CaribbeanCricket.com
2015-12-15 07:07:21
West Indies batsman Chris Gayle has said that he was not fit enough to play the ongoing Test series against Australia, but hopes to make a return to Test cricket next year. He also urged fans to give more time to the struggling West Indies Test team and allow youngsters to develop their game.
Gayle, who played the last of his 103 Tests in July 2014, said he was trying to get back into the groove after undergoing surgery on his back in July. He recently made a return to competitive cricket in the Bangladesh Premier League and will now play for Melbourne Renegades in the Big Bash League.
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Courtesy
2015-12-15 07:22:17
sudden
2015-12-15 07:44:10
Courtesy
2015-12-15 07:46:31
Narper
2015-12-15 07:48:59
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
We look forward to seeing you back World Boss
And another triple test ton would be a nice way to end your test career.
silver
2015-12-15 07:52:35
In reply to Narper
Only a retarded like you will fall for this rubbish
Courtesy
2015-12-15 07:54:52
Lissen me, lissen me...
I am in receipt of your January 17, 2012 E-mail. From the onset I must express my disappointment with your continued refusal to allow me to freely ply my trade, the imposition of unacceptable conditions and restrictions on the terms of my employment, and the continued attempts to manipulate my career, all while refusing to respond to my demands...
Courtesy
2015-12-15 07:57:26
...what exactly I have done to deserve this unacceptable treatment. At the end of the day, the WICB is playing with my professional development and livelihood for their own selfish gain...
Courtesy
2015-12-15 07:58:06
...I object to the unilateral imposition of conditions on the NOC requested as this removes any opportunity for me to determine, in my sole discretion, how to ply my trade...
Cuter
2015-12-15 08:01:44
In reply to silver
sudden
2015-12-15 08:22:19
Nevertheless I hope the surgery went well and he makes a full recovery and that he can return to his old self
Priapus
2015-12-15 08:41:00
In reply to sudden
Nevertheless I hope the surgery went well and he makes a full recovery and that he can return to his old self
Larr Pullo
2015-12-15 09:08:34
Kay
2015-12-15 09:18:04
Great news if he is fit. It should be about performance , not ages since all the youngsters tried so far stinking up the place.....
RemainsUnknown
2015-12-15 09:28:36
In reply to Larr Pullo
So is Shiv....
You still have wet dreams about Shiv?
Raggs
2015-12-15 10:08:26
Chris Gayle back in the test arena is just that backward bizzness..
Cornfused
2015-12-15 10:35:20
Really Raggs , we have a huge gap at the top ,
But before that , a welcomed statement from our most feared batsman in any format .
Hope , Chandrika have not being going on average performances . Yes we need to give them time , but ... we can welcome the Don back
number09
2015-12-15 11:59:28
Chris is my boy, but if it your sole discretion to ply your trade, then the WIBC reserve the right to to respond by viewing his terms as unacceptable. Its not a one way street.
WestDem
2015-12-15 12:04:38
Gayle need to stop playing games with de WICB...no way he is interested in TESTS!
natty_forever
2015-12-15 14:44:41
In reply to WestDem... well he would be required to play PCL cricket in order to qualify for selection, so lets see how that goes first.
However, notice the same worms always gather once a Yaadie name get called?
ponderiver
2015-12-15 14:51:50
In reply to natty_forever
Gayle being appointed captain of the Stanford XI was the straw that broke the
worms'
back
He hijacked their Revo
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 14:54:25
In reply to Courtesy
...what exactly I have done to deserve this unacceptable treatment. At the end of the day, the WICB is playing with my professional development and livelihood for their own selfish gain
context u disingenious dinosaur
Wasnt this after he had been inexplicably dropped as captain, and insulted by the coach and members of the board?
Can you imagine you grow up dreaming to represnt the mighty WI, only to realise you working for a bunch of d!cks!!!
jacksprat
2015-12-15 15:07:03
In reply to DIEHARD
Is "Dinosaur" a synonym for "Shameless LIAR"
It is futile to try arguing with this fool who always cheered on its equally daft Amen Corner- Talk about a Conspiracy of Idiots!
See with them. These in-breds have their agenda for which they will keep beating their drums.
ponderiver
2015-12-15 15:11:28
In reply to jacksprat
These in-breds have their agenda for which they will keep beating their drums.
oh fugg this could get
hugly !!!
Kay
2015-12-15 15:15:13
In reply to ponderiver
I have heard that word used before on dis forum to describe Dotties.... not nice!! 
Courtesy
2015-12-15 15:15:28
In reply to jacksprat
See with them. These in-breds have their agenda for which they will keep beating their drums.
Your true colours have been on display a very long time ago. Please keep dishing out the gifts.
camos
2015-12-15 15:16:05
In reply to ponderiver
hey! be careful with the hugely thing,you know them people can't handle that.
Courtesy
2015-12-15 15:22:03
In reply to DIEHARD
THE CONTEXT
Thank you for your latest email on the subject of NOCs. I do welcome the opportunity to engage with you, with a view to clarifying our respective positions.
WICB has never restricted you from "plying your trade". You have not been playing for the West Indies in recent months, initially on fitness grounds and then because you rendered yourself ineligible for selection, by making public comments denigrating WICB and the Coach of the West Indies first team, comments which you have, thus far, refused to retract. During that time you have played in a number of Twenty20 tournaments. You have been given an NOC for each and every tournament for which you have needed one, in accordance with the applicable procedures as to form and timing. You have not been prejudiced in any respects by WICB's approach to NOCs. Rather, you have chosen to play for overseas franchises, rather than represent your country in the regional tournaments organised by WICB, whilst spurning the chance to make yourself eligible once again for selection for the West Indies.
WICB's approach, when dealing with requests for NOCs from both retained and non retained players is based on the ICC Operating Manual and accompanying guidance. Thus, where a request for an NOC is received, that request is given reasonable and appropriate consideration. Where appropriate, WICB discusses the issue with the West Indies and territorial selectors. Following such consideration, WICB may grant an unconditional, partial or conditional NOC. When considering its response to a request for an NOC, WICB will consider the player’s wishes, the terms of the NOC required by the relevant overseas board, FTP commitments (actual and potential) and any other circumstances (all being factors set out in the ICC Operating Manual and related guidance) relevant to that player, such as fitness. Customarily, a player with a retainer contract, and any other player who is (or would be regarded as) a member of the current first team squad, and who purports to make himself available, and is eligible, for selection for the West Indies team, will be granted an NOC subject to FTP commitments. Conversely, a player who has declared himself unavailable and/or is ineligible for selection for the West Indies team for the foreseeable future would (absent other relevant factors) be granted an unconditional NOC (although, in practice, this would be rare, because players who are offered the chance to play in overseas domestic tournaments tend to be current members of the West Indies first team squad).
In your case: you do not have a retainer contract, which is your choice; you are a player who would be regarded as a member of the current first team squad; you purport to make yourself available for selection; currently, you are ineligible pending resolution of certain matters referred to above and below; but we do not consider that you will be ineligible for selection for the foreseeable future, as you have expressed publicly a strong desire to play for the West Indies.
It is WICB’s position that, if a player wishes to play official cricket and to be considered for selection to play for the West Indies, and whether or not he signs a retainer contract, he must expect NOCs to be issued subject to international commitments, in accordance with the rules of the ICC which govern the overseas tournaments in which he wishes to play. WICB does not have the resources to match the amounts of money that players can earn from playing in the IPL and certain other overseas domestic tournaments. WICB's approach is to permit players to play in the IPL and other overseas domestic tournaments wherever possible, subject only to international commitments. This approach, in WICB’s view, has to be adopted for all players ("FTS Players" i.e. first team squad players) who are (or would be regarded as) members of the current first team squad and who purport to make themselves available for selection, and are eligible for selection (or, rather, not ineligible for selection for the foreseeable future), whether they have signed retainer contracts or not. If FTS Players were automatically granted unconditional NOCs for every overseas domestic tournament in which they wished to play, this would, in effect, allow any FTS Player to make himself available for selection for the West Indies only for matches where he could not find a better paid alternative.
WICB believes that asking an FTS Player who requests an NOC to play in an overseas domestic tournament to accept a condition that he make himself available, if selected, for international commitments which may clash with that tournament, is justifiable. If a player has no contractual obligation to WICB and does not wish to make himself available to play in international matches for which he may be selected, then he has the option of ceasing to be a FTS Player, by retiring from international cricket, or otherwise declaring himself ineligible and/or unavailable for selection for the foreseeable future. In that event, WICB would not consider it necessary or appropriate to issue a player with anything but an unconditional NOC.
So,... it is your choice, whether you receive a conditional or unconditional NOC. But you cannot have an unconditional NOC and be considered for selection to play for the West Indies. Either you wish to make yourself available to play for the West Indies, in which case you must accept that NOCs will be granted to you on the same conditional terms as other international players, or you do not, in which case you can have your unconditional NOC. All that is required from you is a clear statement, one way or the other.
At the moment, WICB considers you ineligible for selection pending resolution of certain matters referred to above and below. If you want to address those matters now, then I would be delighted for you to do so. You say that you have not been given an explanation of what is required of you, but our exchanges on the matter of your selection have identified very clearly what is required. I also note your suggestion that WICB has not given you an opportunity to be heard. I am sure you are fully aware that this is not the case, as the WICB has had many communications with you in its efforts to resolve these matters, including with the involvement of the Jamaica Cricket Association. You also refer to the need for WICB to state categorically what are the offending statements which you made. This is a new position, which you adopted in your last email, and not something you have raised previously. The fact is that the Coach has discussed your comments with you, and you have insisted that they are correct. I refer to meetings of June 15 2011 and June 24 2011 and the telephone discussion between you and the Coach on August 25 2011. You are fully aware of the comments you made which denigrate WICB and the Coach. You have stated in meetings, discussions and in public, that you have no intention of apologizing for or retracting your comments.
Anyway, so that there can be no doubt about the issue to be addressed, and by way of example only, I have set out below some of the comments which you made in the interview in question:
- "The ONLY communication was my physio CJ message got a BBM from me updating him on my progress."
- "I'm the perfect target for them. They want to get rid of me."
‎
- "Just before the IPL auction, I got an email from the CEO if I'm retiring from Test cricket. I found that very strange. It sounded like he wanted me to retire so he can continue to screw me over."
- "They threatening players. They're using the fitness thing to threaten players. You can make ten ducks in a row and still make the team... as long as you fit like a fiddle... That's the system they have now... Fitness, fitness, fitness..."
- "every coach come with the same format... fitness, fitness, fitness... 24/7. Man to man, Australia team no fitter than we. You think India fitter than we?" "Ah joke Coach Ottis Gibson ah mek!"
- "The coach is a user. That's what he is. He is a user."
- "You think that if I didn't get an IPL contract.. you think I would get a layaway like Pollard and Bravo?.. Them say they will side with those two... and show up..."
- "Me and Sarwan sit down and talk after the World Cup. Sarwan was messed up mentally. The coach messed up the man mentally. The players were not in the right frame of mind."
"Sarwan was batting without a free mind. Players told me they lost confidence. No confidence at all. A player speak his mind in team meeting openly... The player said his piece... After that, he never play a World Cup match. But me talk with my mouth and me talk with my bat."
The intention was not to have you refer to each comment and apologise for each. The Board requires you to provide a general public retraction of the comments made in the interview in question and the effect it has had on the team, Coach, Captain and Management and to express a commitment to team and management. If the terms of that retraction can be agreed, WICB will be happy to consider you eligible once again for selection, although it is interesting that your position on availability to play for the West Indies continues to be uncertain and changes with each email. However, that would be subject to resolution of one further issue. You say in your email that "it is for me to consider whether I accept selection once the WICB has selected me.” On further reflection, I trust that you will acknowledge that a player who wishes to be considered eligible for selection must commit himself to play if selected.
On the alleged delay in responding to you, WICB has been in touch with the Bangladesh Cricket Board. WICB is aware of the process to be followed for the issuance of NOCs for the Bangladesh tournament, and the conditions that can be imposed in accordance with the rules and regulations of the ICC, and it is satisfied that it has followed all proper procedures. As with the IPL, the question of NOCs does not arise until after the auction. For present purposes, please find attached the NOC for the Bangladesh Premier League in conditional form. Should you wish to have an NOC in unconditional form you have, as indicated above, the option of retiring from international cricket, or otherwise declaring yourself ineligible and/or unavailable for selection for international cricket the foreseeable future. I hope you will not take that course, given that the conditional nature of the NOC will have no impact on your ability to play in the Bangladesh tournament, but that has to be a matter for you.
Regards.
jacksprat
2015-12-15 15:32:32
In reply to ponderiver
oh fugg this could get hugly !!!
Too late!
A few months from now this
LIAR will claim to have some "archived" post where I called the entire herd of
Disingenuous Dinosaurs "Inbred Neverlanders"!
Courtesy
2015-12-15 15:40:17
This last post is already archived. No need to make any major alterations as you just did.
Keep the gifts flowing.
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 15:45:49
In reply to Courtesy
You don't realise how poorly that pagefull of shite you just posted reflects on the author.
that was a fricking public relations stunt, and was in no way meant to mend any bridges or build any kind of meaningful relationship amongst the parties involved for the betterment of WI cricket which is what the author of the letter should have been focused on!!
What was needed was a meeting with coach player and board to discuss this document
The player had issues, which led to his "outbursts" respect goes both ways. Chris Gayle talk wid him bat him mouth and him actions, the jackasses in the WICB don't even realise they won the battle, but lost the war, and Gayle and his cohorts are proving what they did not get at the time, the real talented cricketers don't need the WICB, but the WICB needs them.
Guesss what, we lost in 2009 and 2012 too, but the Ozzies were not THIS disgusted, and mentioning never inviting us back...when will u jackasses GET IT!!!! 
jacksprat
2015-12-15 15:46:33
This last post is already archived. No need to make any major alterations as you just did.
Maybe you will also "archive" this as well in the same place you claimed to have stored the post where you alleged I called Gibson an
"Ugly Barbadian" - up your ass!
You Lying Piece of @@******!!!!
Courtesy
2015-12-15 15:49:33
In reply to DIEHARD
You don't realise how poorly that pagefull of shite you just posted reflects on the author.
Start another thread mate. Don't shift the goal post.
What was needed was a meeting with coach player and board to discuss this document.
Did you miss this part?:
...The fact is that the Coach has discussed your comments with you, and you have insisted that they are correct. I refer to meetings of June 15 2011 and June 24 2011 and the telephone discussion between you and the Coach on August 25 2011. You are fully aware of the comments you made which denigrate WICB and the Coach. You have stated in meetings, discussions and in public, that you have no intention of apologizing for or retracting your comments...
sudden
2015-12-15 15:49:44
In reply to jacksprat
you are becoming unhinged. take a deep breath and inhale, jockstrap
Courtesy
2015-12-15 15:51:42
In reply to jacksprat
Keep it flowing.
De Courtesy has made it extremely difficult for you to ignore him and the HHGS combination.
natty_forever
2015-12-15 15:58:10
Some folk were so pro WICB when their batty-lickee was in charge ... however, have a change of heart now with a new ass to lick, but CHG is not allowed to have a change of heart.
sudden
2015-12-15 16:01:48
In reply to natty_forever
i support Gayle's wish to offer himself up for test selection. i am not a supporter of this present WICB regime. i wish the Caricom cricket committee would disband it and start again. from time to time i have supported the WICB in its battle with WIPA and the players altho i recognised Ramnarine as a v effective WIPA president
ponderiver
2015-12-15 16:02:24
In reply to camos
hey! be careful with the hugely thing,you know them people can't handle that.
context bro context
Courtesy
2015-12-15 16:09:38
In reply to jacksprat
Correction: It's "coach uglyman bajan" and "St. Lucian double ugly".
sudden
2015-12-15 16:15:55
In reply to Courtesy
ah shucks... get over it, man. it is not like he called Coach Gibbons, "coach uglyman bajan."
Courtesy
2015-12-15 16:19:08
In reply to sudden
ah shucks... get over it, man. it is not like he called Coach Gibbons, "coach uglyman bajan."
No. Jacksprat was not referring to coach Ottis Gibson who is a born Barbadian. Never, ever...
Dat slim of a Jamaican jockitch.
ponderiver
2015-12-15 16:31:41
In reply to jacksprat
A few months from now this LIAR will claim to have some "archived" post where I called the entire herd of Disingenuous Dinosaurs "Inbred Neverlanders"!
Fiyahhh yuh hitting hard bro !!!
jacksprat
2015-12-15 16:35:11
Courtesy
2015-12-15 16:40:30
In reply to jacksprat
Courtesy 12/11/15 10:45:04 PM
In reply to jacksprat
So when you say "St.Lucian Double ugly" or "coach uglyman bajan" or "Bajan uglyman coach" wha you mean?
Take your time to answer and take it slow.
Don't runaway again.... now we go see who lie or who lying.
Signed
"
Jamaican Dave..."
natty_forever
2015-12-15 16:43:22
In reply to sudden... I know where you stand sudden, don't mind bantering with you, as you seem to enjoy doing as well I noticed.
I never supported the WICB, and was even more so when Ram was WIPA prez, reason being they were always on the wrong end of things, and this due to their incompetence.
As courtesy has said the previous MOU/CBA was stacked towards the players, how the hell them let that happen.
Also, no transparency or clear disciplinary policies in place as well.
Courtesy
2015-12-15 16:46:17
In reply to natty_forever
As courtesy has said the previous MOU/CBA was stacked towards the players, how the hell them let that happen.
Correction: The courts said so in a ruling after a protracted impasse between WIPA and Dr. Ernest Hilaire, then CEO of the WICB on the matter. Dr. Hilaire prevailed and won the long war.
jacksprat
2015-12-15 16:50:53
In reply to LIAR
If I quote the phrase the "Theory of Relativity" it therefore means I coined the phase & the concept belongs to me and not Albert Einstein.
Did you even go to school where you could have been you could have been taught punctuation?
I guess not!
Is that how English comprehension is taught where you are from or are just plain ignorant, semi-literate & "disingenuous"?
You really are just plain stupid & trying to worm you way out of your Big Lie?
Courtesy
2015-12-15 16:53:05
In reply to jacksprat
If I quote the phrase the "Theory of Relativity" it therefore I coined the phase concept belongs to me and not Albert Einstein.
Did you even go to school?
Are you really that stupid or are you trying to wriggle out of your lie?
Is that how English comprehension is taught where you are from or are just plain ignorant or a semi-literate & "disingenuous"
Wow!!!... Wormlike. Wiggle jockitch wiggle.
Btw, thanks for your early presents.
..............
Back to the matter at hand:
Courtesy12/15/15 6:40:30 PM
In reply to jacksprat
Courtesy 12/11/15 10:45:04 PM
In reply to jacksprat
So when you say "St.Lucian Double ugly" or "coach uglyman bajan" or "Bajan uglyman coach" wha you mean?
Take your time to answer and take it slow.
Don't runaway again.... now we go see who lie or who lying.
Signed
"Jamaican Dave..."
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 16:57:22
In reply to Courtesy
that meeting was only for Gayle to admit that he made the comments and to berate him.
I see no indication that the meeting was held to address Gayle's grievances!!
The meeting was held to force the player to grovel, which is all this administration has been hellbent on doing, I see no indication that the meeting that was held was the type i alluded to in my post.
What's said loudest in that letter is what wasn't said
The fact is that the Coach has discussed your comments with you, and you have insisted that they are correct. I refer to meetings of June 15 2011 and June 24 2011 and the telephone discussion between you and the Coach on August 25 2011. You are fully aware of the comments you made which denigrate WICB and the Coach. You have stated in meetings, discussions and in public, that you have no intention of apologizing for or retracting your comments...
It should have said something along the lines of " I refer to meeting of June 11, 2015 where we adressed the grouses you had re comments attributed to the coach, which led to your outburst. We are glad that we were able to address your concerns, and clarify the comments you made, so that all parties can move forward to bring WI cricket to its former glory"
What they wrote was no accident, big difference between what I said should have happened and what did, and the reasons for that are clear
Courtesy
2015-12-15 16:59:18
In reply to DIEHARD
Thanks for revealing who you are...ah mean, your very positive attributes.
Nice knowing you.
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 17:00:51
In reply to Courtesy
Transcripts of the meeting
"Apologize"
"No"
"Please apologize"
"Mi seh mi naah dweet"
"You better apologize"
"Naah apologize, weh mi do wrong, weh bout you?"
I suspect that went on and on for the duration of the meeting
Courtesy
2015-12-15 17:03:26
In reply to DIEHARD
I suspect that went on and on for the duration of the meeting
Thanks for your expose of the aforementioned meeting which is based entirely on suspicion.
Please keep enlightening me on same.
Btw, you have succeeded in your obfuscation and distraction.
Good for you.
Signed
Jamaican Dave.
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 17:09:38
In reply to Courtesy
You know otherwise kind Sir.
Everything i have infered is based on the tone of the letter, in addition to every action and utterance coming from the WICB.
Please indicate where in that letter there was a shred of empathy, or any attempt to genunienly meet the individiual half way.. what kinda bullshit is this line "
You have not been playing for the West Indies in recent months, initially on fitness grounds and then because you rendered yourself ineligible for selection, by making public comments denigrating WICB and the Coach of the West Indies first team, comments which you have, thus far, refused to retract
"
What did he commit?? Treason?
Courtesy
2015-12-15 17:13:49
In reply to DIEHARD
Please indicate where in that letter there was a shred of empathy, or any attempt to genunienly meet the individiual half way.. what kinda bullshit is this line " you have rendered yourself unavailable for selection based on your comments"
The WICB should have allowed the bullshitter of a cricketer an audience with coach Gibson to resolve outstanding matters. Don't you agree?
sudden
2015-12-15 17:14:00
In reply to jacksprat
stop talking shoite and trying to parse the language. Courtesy have posted and you have not refuted that you made a post wherein you used the words, "Coach Uglyman Bajan." you want to say that you never referred to Gibbons a bajan and the WI coach,as ugly or called any bajan ugly. so what do you mean by the words "Coach Uglyman Bajan" assuming that Jacksprat is your handle and that Courtesy has quoted you correctly, which you have not denied.
only conclusion is that you are delusional and unhinged.
Courtesy
2015-12-15 17:16:54
In reply to sudden
The irony of ironies is that jockitch was fuming when a poster referred to the current President of the WICB as "Jamaican Dave".
Jockitch thought it was sacrilegious to do so.
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 19:10:02
In reply to Courtesy
The WICB needs the bullshitter of a cricketer.
The entire world is aware of that.
The bullshitter of a cricketer does not need the WICB, nor does anyone else.
The entire world is also aware of that
Threw out the baby with the bathwater. They showed who's boss. Lol
Courtesy
2015-12-15 19:12:12
In reply to DIEHARD
The WICB needs the bullshitter of a cricketer...
To do what?
Did coach Simmons meet with him like how he met Bravo and Pollard?
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 19:15:38
In reply to Courtesy
To provide a product that people are willing to pay for.
To provide a more marketable/palatable product
To maintain some semblance of relevance
Courtesy
2015-12-15 19:17:30
In reply to DIEHARD
Try selling your idea to coach Simmons. I wish you all the luck.
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 19:19:33
In reply to Courtesy
Cos he's already in the team! You not paying attention?
No need for Simmons to meet with Gayle.
Gayle is always selected once fit. WICB have another active cricketer with two triple centuries? A century in all forms of the game, and a test average > 40?
Courtesy
2015-12-15 19:21:48
In reply to DIEHARD
In the land of the blind every one eye man is king. Gayle is no exception in a piss poor cricketing environment.
He can be classified as Top Shit...still shit at test cricket nonetheless.
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 19:32:01
In reply to Courtesy
I see you have no use for facts and statistics
Courtesy
2015-12-15 19:34:56
In reply to DIEHARD
Get stats of the top ten test cricketers (batsmen) particularly their batting averages and return to me. Only then can we do a comparative analysis of Gayle and the rest.
It makes no sense comparing shit to shit...well errr, if only you believe in better shit.
Yes a man scoring two triple centuries still averaging 40. Doesn't this give you cause to pause and think.
imusic
2015-12-15 19:43:18
In reply to DIEHARD
As Cozier pointed out.....some players.....in particular those whose "loyalty" is often questioned by media, administration, and fans alike....see that loyalty as not being to West Indies cricket per se, but rather to the WICBC....in particular....CEO's, Presidents, Directors etc.
That's a big problem.
Particularly ironic whenever the Board promotes these same "disloyal" players in order to try and maximize spectator turnout at charity events and such
At the end of the day, if individuals don't respect, far less like their "employer", that employer is unlikely to get the maximum production from those individuals.
imusic
2015-12-15 19:47:22
In reply to Courtesy
Yes a man scoring two triple centuries still averaging 40. Doesn't this give you cause to pause and think.
But people still critical of a man scoring 2 triples and averaging over 50.
I criticize a player averaging over 50 with umpteen not outs
Both played in constantly losing teams. Both were blamed for the losing.
Courtesy
2015-12-15 19:53:39
In reply to imusic
But people still critical of a man scoring 2 triples and averaging over 50.
Why can't they criticize?
Brother, context is important.
Btw, no one should argue with a blanket statement that is devoid of context.
Two triple centuries with the majority of innings against bottom feeder teams is different from...
Get the picture?
imusic
2015-12-15 20:07:39
In reply to Courtesy
You do gayle an injustice by saying that.
I'm no gayle fan.....but you have a short memory.
Remember the 2009 Australia series when his 165 not out was a great test innings. Followed up by a century in the next match. For a team that was under a lot of pressure.
I picked that innings because that essentially saved a match that we were going to lose. In their territory.
To suggest he mainly performed against bottom feeders is unfair
Courtesy
2015-12-15 20:14:13
In reply to imusic
Brother highlighting isolated good performances and scattershot representations of figures in a sea of innings do not cut it for me.
I will not waste time arguing about stats and the resulting information with you. This does not look like your forte.
imusic
2015-12-15 20:16:18
In reply to Courtesy
Your prerogative. Go brave
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 20:18:40
In reply to Courtesy
Gayle is the best of what's available.
The WICB only has shit available to it.
Where did i ever say Gayle is world top ten?
I said the WICB need him
DIEHARD
2015-12-15 20:22:51
In reply to imusic
Cozier was spot on there
The issue of production and player availability is directly as a result of the poor relationship
Courtesy
2015-12-15 20:26:44
In reply to DIEHARD
Gayle is the best of what's available.
The WICB only has shit available to it.
Where did i ever say Gayle is world top ten?
I said the WICB need him
Thank you for admitting that in the land of the blind...
Dis done. GOP debate beckons.
DIEHARD
2015-12-16 04:56:52
In reply to Courtesy
This from the man who said don't shift the goalposts.
Lol. Please refer to what my issue with your initial post was.
Lunatic
U spin the story so much u dizzy and confused
ponderiver
2015-12-16 07:15:09
In reply to DIEHARD
Lunatic
U spin the story so much u dizzy and confused
pupa Jeesas story jump out
A dossier is being compiled on you as of now ,filed away in the section marked
Hoperation Elimination as of now you are on the
Dottie
Watch
List thats the
DWL
natty_forever
2015-12-16 07:19:52
In reply to Courtesy
bullshitter of a cricketer
... mmmmmmmm
natty_forever
2015-12-16 07:22:11
In reply to Courtesy... also are you aware that CHG's average is comparable to Desmond Haynes'?
Cuter
2015-12-16 07:52:15
In reply to ponderiver
Whats going on with you?
you once told me you had many friends in the small Islands
yet you constantly diss them
DIEHARD
2015-12-16 07:55:01
In reply to ponderiver
ponderiver
2015-12-16 08:03:56
In reply to Cuter
You once told me you had many friends in the small Islands .
..... yes i do ,in Jamaica, Vincy ,Grenada Bim TnT,Dominica,St Kitts,Nevis,Anguilla, Bequia,Cayman.
I Am working on the others not listed.
breds thats not a diss
thats picong ,satire and i serious like a judge.
jacksprat
2015-12-16 08:55:44
In reply to natty_forever
also are you aware that CHG's average is comparable to Desmond Haynes'?
More pertinent: it is almost double those of
Stuart Williams,
Devon Smith &
Kieron Powell plus
Andre Fletcher and
Johnson Charles
Facts mean nothing to
Disingenuous Dinosaurs with an agenda!!
DIEHARD
2015-12-16 11:06:21
In reply to jacksprat
I should trademark "Disingenuous Dinosaur"
FYI..i actually wanted to call him a Disinegenous D!ck, but I figured it was too early in the piece to go there.
Dinosaur is the only thing i could come up that wasn't as offensive as Dunce, Dolt or D!ck
Cheeks
2015-12-16 11:27:13
jacksprat
2015-12-16 11:27:40
In reply to DIEHARD
I should trademark "Disingenuous Dinosaur"
You should!!
Cuter
2015-12-16 11:55:41
Its just amazing.
really sad to see how low some of our well respected posters have come
very post now has some kind of name calling
yes jacksprat, you
at one time you use to post about cricket
now, you want to be in war with every dottie
natty_forever
2015-12-16 12:09:06
In reply to Cuter... seems you feeling left out?
ponderiver
2015-12-16 12:17:55
JahJah
2015-12-16 12:22:44
In reply to camos
hey! be careful with the hugely thing,you know them people can't handle that.
Yu mean Courtesy and Sudden? Dem nuh have mirror since dem was little
pickney? Dem mussi used to it by now.
JahJah
2015-12-16 12:23:59
In reply to Cheeks
It is amazing how you only have voice for one side with you holier than thou self.
Like ah seh before - Yu good nuh rass.
Cuter
2015-12-16 13:03:46
In reply to natty_forever
nah man
I hardly post anymore
seems like everytime you disagree with posters they get personal
Courtesy
2015-12-16 13:18:26
Guerrillas boy!!!...jamaican guerillas.
Lissen me, lissen me, Gayle is NO Brian Charles Lara or Joe Root or AB de Villiers.
...an average test opening batsman at best is he.
Who is better known as Chaminda Vass' whipping boy.
And most importantly, at this stage of West Indies cricket he should stay far away.
Allyuh must get it in your heads that Gayle's last statement was only grunted to satisfy a curious Australian media who need answers.
Allyuh jamaicans can eat yourselves again or what's left of it.
Pacy
2015-12-16 14:05:46
In reply to jacksprat
Hillarie came into the role with a single most agenda of crushing the WIPA and taming the senior players who were giving strength to WIPA. Hillarie and his supporters were completely convinced that removing Gayle, Sarwan and Bravo would weaken WIPA.
Set up was to drop them, give public statements questioning their commitment to WI cricket. In the mean time the players would have to come asking for an noc for every series and be at their mercy. That was the plan to show who is boss and make it an example for all upcoming players.
Poor Sarwan succumbed to the pressure but the other 2 were resilient. Gayle in particular aggressively withstood the position and said if you are going to unfairly drop me give me an unconditional Noc so that I do not have to see your faces again.
Poor guys are unhappy that the story did not go as per the script because of gayle. I can understand courtesey's frustration since he could not make certain facts go off even if he tries as much as possible
Courtesy
2015-12-16 14:08:58
In reply to Pacy
Hillarie came into the role with a single most agenda of crushing the WIPA and taming the senior players who were giving strength to WIPA. Hillarie and his supporters were completely convinced that removing Gayle, Sarwan and Bravo would weaken WIPA.
Set up was to drop them, give public statements questioning their commitment to WI cricket. In the mean time the players would have to come asking for an noc for every series and be at their mercy. That was the plan to show who is boss and make it an example for all upcoming players.
I concur with the above...except that Sarwan was very welcome but he followed bad company to his eternal demise.
Such a pity the plan was not allowed to flourish. West Indies cricket would have been miles ahead now instead of the rapid decline into oblivion.
Plain and simple, the plan was to get rid of the rotten eggs and those with negative influences on the up and coming ones and start afresh with those cricketers with an appetite for test cricket and a commitment to West Indies cricket.
The other important strategic objective was to defang the existing MOU/CBA.
Sounds like an excellent plan to me.
Gosh!! It was not to be.
Cheeks
2015-12-16 14:15:34
In reply to JahJah
It is amazing how you only have voice for one side with you holier than thou self.
Like ah seh before - Yu good nuh rass.
Straw man alert.
Come with something of substance.
sudden
2015-12-16 14:16:25
In reply to Cheeks
That is Captain Jerk Pork for you.
ponderiver
2015-12-16 14:45:38
camos
2015-12-16 14:50:55
In reply to ponderiver
sudden
2015-12-16 15:17:06
In reply to ponderiver
DD Devious Dave was an agent for the Lucians too? Man, he has infiltrated many secret organizations. Must be his Ja charm
ponderiver
2015-12-16 16:13:31
sudden
2015-12-16 16:17:46
In reply to ponderiver
Sounds like a noice conspiracy theory conceived in the bowels of the JCA and put into motion by the one and only DD
