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This year our regional cricket calender will have 16 games, not including playoffs (10 4-day & 6 50-overs)

Why not make the criteria for selection to any WI Test or ODI team be contingent on playing any 6 (~40%) of the 16 games.

That will allow 'the stars' some flexibility to make money in the T20 leagues and also create a more viable avenue to make themselves eligible for selection. Additionally it will improve the Regional competitions.

In reply to matchstick

That is what I had been stating for a long time. Find a middle ground. Have them available for selection and that would give you more options when you want to select a team.

In reply to Pacy

Yep. The selection criteria for T20 is mutually beneficial to both parties with the CPL.

WICB management need to come up with a more viable option for the other two formats. Otherwise WI cricket will just be a glorified farm team for T20 leagues.

In reply to matchstick

That is what it has already being looked at Matchstick. Carlos Brathwaite comes in and immediately is pulled out. The enterprising talent is all being pulled and that is not going to help WI cricket.

WICB's approach seems to be to shun players which is counter productive where you neither have them for regional cricket (which is said to be the intent in order to improve quality) or for International cricket at times of need (Like the WC).

Afterall we might have 6-8 players who are in demand for International T20 cricket. All that is needed is to create a template to accommodate them at any point.

In reply to Pacy

Agree fully with you and all other posters so far.
Now let's hope the guys at WICB reads this posts and share it with those that can make the change.

We don't have a large talent pool as other countries neither have the money to go up against them so lets find mutual arrangements that will benefit all parties and in the end benefit WICricket

In reply to matchstick

3 games enough.

In reply to matchstick

In the beginning, everyone was blaming the WICB for trying to tek food from the players table but as we fast forward to now, the players that are regulars in all those T20 leagues are conveniently hurt when the WICB tourney is being played....I think they don't want to play one game much less 6....

In reply to WestDem

What you say too make sense
The above agreement I think will speak to the next group
Not the current crop
those guys have very little interest in playing for Windies unless it's high profile, like ICC tourneys or perhaps Australia or India.
The above should apply to the new guys who will be drafted in the team soon or say ppl like Lil B, Braffit, etc
I think these guys have a better understanding of how they want their career to grow. Cause yeah money good, but some them man might just end up wasting it. Then in the next five years we'll be running topics on CC talking bout where are they now

In reply to positiveg

True...T20 career is as short as the format...I am now more focus on the WI getting a lot younger and move on from the T20 international franchise flavor players!

In reply to matchstick

stars who do not play FC should be allowed to do what they want at their own expense

no central contracts etc

let them go IPL and such places and bring in the money for the WICB and let them win the intl LO tournaments and earn their corn

time to move on and find ways to develop test cricketers

In reply to camos

Some number of games, 6 or 40% does not have to be the magic #. Many times the contracts for the T20 leagues are signed way earlier than the regional schedules come out.

In reply to WestDem

Fine if they dont want to play... The suggestion i propose gives the players more flexibility to make himself available. More importantly it is a medium ground for the WICB to take to show that they are considerate about the player making money for pampers....

In reply to positiveg

That's really the reason for my post.

We may have lost this batch, but if we dont take a middle ground WI cricket will just be, as i said, a glorified farm team for the T20 leagues.

In reply to doosra

One of the best ways to develop any cricketer is to have them play against the same players you are shutting out, the WICB knows this.

Giving them a route to play at least a few matches will encourage them to make an effort as opposed to giving up on a nearly impossible requirement.


btw...

Personally I don't want our test cricketers to not be able to make millions. Teribbly shtty wish for someone to say hope u are good enough but not good enough to be financially lucrative in your profession.

In reply to doosra

Great minds think alike! I had this thought for a while now, but never got around to posting it!
I agree 100%

In reply to doosra

The more you move the more the International fixtures will come near you... Carlos came and he is now drafted. Evin Lewis and any decent player will be drafted. You can have this hard stance and keep moving on but will go nowhere.

You all talk about test cricketers but from my limited exposure only versatile players have been shining stars for their respective teams. You can have grafters around but only the grafters are not going to take the team anywhere.

If I was WICB I would be worried with the stance taking by some of the options we had like Russel / Simmo / Badree / Santokie to retire than represent WI in longer format or any format. I would rethink if there is something wrong in the approach. But here the general consensus is that these are average players and WICB does not have to care.

But just step back and think... If these average players are lured so much what will happen when better players come? They might not stand a chance against the money.

In reply to Pacy

Start with your structure, the West Indies has to build a business model around cricket that attracts sponsorship not one where the sponsor dictates the important criteria. Nagico now decides where & when the one day tournament is played. There is no four day sponsor but to attract one they insist that the "stars" must play to qualify to play test but the match fees for test aint much so easy decision for player to opt out.

In reply to positiveg

While we fans are talking about WICB finding a middle ground they seem to be going farther and farther away from the middle ground.

Not sure if any player would want to trust the WICB even if they come with a proposal in he current climate

In reply to matchstick

Matchie what's the miggle grung for the wt20 team

Test cricket is the middle ground...for players who want to make more money from T20 cricket.

Those that can't make the grade in T20 cricket settle for the middle ground...Test cricket.

Gayle, Big Bravo, Simmons, Sammy, Russell, etc are happy to never play Test cricket again, and Pollard no longer has any interest in that format. It won't be long before Carlos follows suit....

In reply to doosra

Thank God got copy and paste...