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Should Shiv give way to Tage?

 
openning 2016-12-12 20:16:43 

It would be good to see Shiv as the batting coach, and help the youngsters in Guyana.

 
tc1 2016-12-12 20:41:10 

In reply to openning



No.

as long as Shiv can walk, he should play so that a section of the mudlands can say that he was discriminated and force to play in the regionals and he is still the best batsman in the world

 
WestDem 2016-12-12 20:51:21 

In reply to tc1

If opening thread was idiotic, your post took de crown for being a porno pssuy!

 
Narper 2016-12-12 20:55:19 

In reply to WestDem

As long as Shiv is around...the bajan 'stars' will look mediocre.

Dese bajans hate it big grin big grin big grin

When is de ole ass really retiring...dem fretting

 
openning 2016-12-12 21:02:18 

In reply to Narper

Keep getting bowl out for 69 and 137.
Allyuh still need a Master in the X1 or someone that can work with youngsters, 24/7?
The young Bajans not the finish product, but all of them have regional tons and learning every season.

 
Narper 2016-12-12 21:21:01 

In reply to openning

Ent rain save alyuh...otherwise a 68 was coming up wink

 
openning 2016-12-12 21:26:31 

In reply to Narper

An experience Guyanese, did not see it that way.
Brooks, Chase, Dowrich, Carter and Stoute, thats all.

 
JamMack 2016-12-12 22:19:32 

That is a silly question. Why should he give way to Tage? He adds more value than Tage. Furthermore, it's not like they are both wicket keepers.

 
tc1 2016-12-12 22:23:27 

In reply to WestDem

shoite, have you seen the postings from the Shivites, and your attack on openning

 
tc1 2016-12-12 22:26:46 

In reply to Narper

the only bowler the muddies has is Reifer, and those boys give him 2 wks

 
anandgb 2016-12-12 23:49:15 

In reply to tc1

You are as pathetic as opening

 
tc1 2016-12-13 00:02:04 

In reply to anandgb



Stop the BS, you guys cry every day about Shiv, shiv is the best , shiv can still bat..., shiv can still field..., shiv can still poke, Shiv is only 42, he can still bat better than X Y Z.

life exist after cricket When Lara moved on he was still on top.


What so pathetic with opening statement ?

 
openning 2016-12-13 00:02:05 

In reply to tc1

Questioning a 42 years old cricketer playing status, seem to upset more Guyanese than the total rest of the region fans.
Why?

 
tc1 2016-12-13 00:24:02 

In reply to openning


Two Guyanese posters commented on his behavior, many seems to think that he should play forever.

 
Devin 2016-12-13 02:04:03 

I think it's time for Shiv to leave the game, and he should consider serving Guyana and West Indies cricket in some other capacity.

What is more disappointing than Shiv hanging on, is the fact that Barbados allowed a 42-year old man to score a century against them.

 
mikesiva 2016-12-13 06:00:26 

In reply to openning

Shiv should play...the youngsters should learn from playing with him, in the middle.

As Joe Grine pointed out on another thread, the best innings Blackwood ever played was with Shiv at the other end.

 
openning 2016-12-13 07:34:03 

In reply to mikesiva

Shiv should play...the youngsters should learn from playing with him, in the middle.


Dude, after 20 years playing with youngsters, where is the team standings, and how many players, actually learned from him or BCL?
The only youngsters that breath Shiv are Kraigg and Singh.

 
Narper 2016-12-13 08:09:30 

Why does it bother bajans so much that Shiv continues to play for Guyana.

Isn't it because it makes the bajan big 30something averagers look bad? wink

 
openning 2016-12-13 08:14:51 

In reply to Narper

Isn't it because it makes the bajan big 30something averagers look bad?

That 30something averager, maybe the best in the region.

lol lol

 
bobby 2016-12-13 08:37:24 

In reply to Devin
At what age did you retire? Age is just a number. Why should anyone retire at the young age of 42 when they can still contribute?

 
tops 2016-12-13 08:42:14 

Just 1 question. Who has the most runs for Guyana for this CPL tournament thus far?

 
Narper 2016-12-13 08:49:42 

In reply to tops

Who has a ton against Bim bad ass TEST attack? big grin


Andrew Mason was ketching fits as it unfolded big grin big grin big grin

 
Bigzinc 2016-12-13 09:59:31 

In reply to Narper

Mason always ketching fits over something. Remember him begging for Tino to make the west indies test team...what a joke...rrr

 
Runs 2016-12-13 10:07:21 

In reply to Devin

Guess Pakistan should follow your WI thinking and retire a performing Misbah using your analogy. cool

 
Devin 2016-12-13 11:40:08 

In reply to bobby

Because it's nice to leave on a high rather than being forced out. I may be Shiv's most ardent supporter on this board, but even I can admit that his love for the game clouds his judgment.

 
Devin 2016-12-13 11:46:55 

In reply to Runs

Test and FC are a little different. FC is a time when a youngster is learning on the job, there is still some nurturing required.

In Tests you want someone as close to the finished article as you can get.

Shiv thinks he can play forever.

 
Runs 2016-12-13 11:50:23 

In reply to Devin

Shiv may truly feel so but in the end it is up to the selectors to decide his value

 
tops 2016-12-14 13:40:32 

In reply to Devin
I know u r a Shiv supporter, but the title of this thread is:
"Should Shiv give way to Tage?"
Talking of 1st class.
My question is still. Who has the most runs for Guyana in this year's CPL.

 
tops 2016-12-14 13:43:48 

& btw, I'm not yet addressing the value of the runs for the team... and how the team would a do without those innings, holding up the batting etc.

 
Devin 2016-12-14 14:58:44 

In reply to tops

What if he's 45 and still has the most runs? How do we know a youth can't walk into the team and do the same, or better?

Is Shiv playing to help Guyana cricket or is he playing because he wants a recall?

 
Baje 2016-12-14 15:09:08 

The young Guyanese batsmen will learn a lot from playing with Shiv. Batting with him, and talking with him. They will learn the value of preserving one's wicket, how to assess the bowlers andpitches. Opposing players have to work to get Shiv out, that is a learning experience for them. If Tage wants a play, he needs to kick the door down. When selected, he needs to score runs.

 
Narper 2016-12-14 15:15:17 

In reply to Devin

In reply to tops

What if he's 45 and still has the most runs? How do we know a youth can't walk into the team and do the same, or better?


Shiv is occupying only ONE batting spot in the team. There is a place for any youth who is knocking on the door loud enough.

Shis is doing better than all the other middle order batsmen in the team...you want to give a youth a chance....drop any one of them inconsistent ones in the middle

If Shiv is 60 years old....and still wants to play and is fit enough to play.....and doing better than the others...then I say play him

Shiv ...a middle order batsman is NOT keeping out Tage...an opening batsman.

If anything...it's Chandrika ...a consistent failure at the highest level....an inconsistent performer at the FC level....who should make way for Tage

 
tops 2016-12-14 15:23:48 

In reply to Narper
Xactly!

 
tops 2016-12-14 15:29:34 

In reply to Devin
"Is Shiv playing to help Guyana cricket or is he playing because he wants a recall?"
There was an article I read when Shiv talked of advising the others while batting with them. He mentioned once while batting with Reefer, someone was bowling short and he, Reefer, was ducking. Shiv called him down and said: "Raymond, stand up and play the ball. After that, R R was ok. If I find the article I will post it.

 
tops 2016-12-17 15:49:16 

? big grin smile confused lol

 
Narper 2016-12-17 16:11:54 

In reply to tops

T&T 162
Guyana 357/6 (Day 2 stumps)

Shiv 141* Bramble 18*

OUT : Reifer 38 Barnwell 3 Johnson 69 Singh 26 Chandrika 12 Hetmeyer 31


lol lol lol

 
tops 2016-12-17 16:26:29 

In reply to Narper
If he makes another 21 he will mek the whole T&T score. big grin lol

 
Narper 2016-12-17 16:31:15 

In reply to tops

he already mek more than the others added together in Mudland middle order

Yet dem calling to replace him with another who must be wuss than those already in de middle order big grin

 
osrlive 2016-12-17 18:00:09 

In reply to Narper

sounds like dem titties, yardies, bimshytes, and others engaging in psycho warfares, dem want mudland drop the best middle order batman from the team..............oh lawd! watch Dowlin re-insert shiv in the test order.

*suicide watch start now. Please don't harm any animals, shiv is vegetarian and that won't affect him one bit! big grin big grin big grin

 
Runs 2016-12-17 18:19:58 

Mudland is not as dotish as WI to drop their best batsman. We want to win, good try though Dotties lol