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Travel ban on hold again

 
black 2017-03-15 19:17:25 

Judge in Hawaii blocked it.

 
birdseye 2017-03-15 19:18:27 

In reply to black

Yep - frustrate his ass big grin

 
Chrissy 2017-03-15 19:24:43 

In reply to black

Don't violate the Constitution

That said he has bigger worries right now - ask Roger Stone lol

 
Runs 2017-03-15 19:42:22 

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Indian American lead lawyer on case Neal Katyal

 
black 2017-03-15 21:52:38 

In reply to Runs

Saw him on Rachel's show.

 
SnoopDog 2017-03-16 10:33:35 

In reply to black

Muslim ban on hold again


Why does that damn pesky Constitution keep getting in the way of a good Fascist idea? lol

 
Runs 2017-03-16 10:51:13 

In reply to SnoopDog

Without the constitution this land woulda been in mass chaos possibly civil war

 
ray 2017-03-16 11:14:13 

In reply to Runs

Even with a constitution, they had a civil war, Jim crow, segregation etc etc

ANything is possible.....constitution or not

 
Runs 2017-03-16 11:26:34 

In reply to ray

True, one just have to hope for saner minds to prevail

 
Trinidave 2017-03-16 11:45:41 

Federal Judge in Greenbelt, Maryland just blocked it too. "Intent" is a mutha. Both this judge and the one in Hawaii mention Trumps promises to impose a Muslim ban.

 
Runs 2017-03-16 12:19:49 

TV legal pundits are saying that Judges should only rule on EO itself and not on campaign promises or other sayings. Feels SC will overturn.

 
Runs 2017-03-16 12:28:56 

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Gaslighting psychology

 
Trinidave 2017-03-16 12:36:29 

When looking at the Constitutionality of laws, courts ALWAYS look at the intent of the law. For example, when there is a law that was legislated in Congress, courts look at the "Legislative History" of the law. That is common legal practice. For the Executive Order, the "Legislative History" is really all that hateful $hit that Trump was saying before and after he got elected.

They do rule on the EO itself, but it is typically more complicated that merely looking at the Text.


Courts also look at the "effect" of the law. For example, in cases involving discrimination, they look at whether the law is "Discriminatory on its face," which ask the question about the language of the law itself. The people who draft discriminatory laws are usually smart enough to keep the language neutral, so most discriminatory laws are NOT discriminatory on its face. Courts then look to see if the law is "Discriminatory in EFFECT." That looks beyond the language of the law, goes into who gets affected, who is excluded, included etc. Same here.

 
Runs 2017-03-16 12:39:12 

In reply to Trinidave

Cool, great explanation

 
black 2017-03-16 12:46:04 

In reply to Trinidave

Well said.

 
archangel 2017-03-16 13:00:07 

The real backlash is soon to come when this hits the airline industry.

 
SnoopDog 2017-03-16 13:01:57 

In reply to Trinidave

Those liberal pussy courts with their big fancy book learning words like "effect", "discriminatory", and "laws".

Don't they realize President Bannon wants to deconstruct the administrative state and make Fascism great again? What the hell is wrong with these people!?!?

 
Trinidave 2017-03-16 13:13:30 

In reply to SnoopDog



Those liberal pussy courts with their big fancy book learning words like "effect", "discriminatory", and "laws".


big grin big grin big grin

Yup. Doing $hit like hold President Asterisk to his word.

 
SnoopDog 2017-03-16 13:17:43 

In reply to Trinidave

Even Ronald "the Hamburglar" McDonald has had enough of the PussyGrabber-in-Chief. lol

 
Trinidave 2017-03-17 17:06:23 

In reply to SnoopDog

They deleted the tweet. Maaaaaaaaaaan. They should have kept that badboy up there.

 
SnoopDog 2017-03-17 20:55:00 

In reply to Trinidave

The internet never forgets Bro. lol