Even after all this Bajan criticism ...

Pages: 1  2  next 
link Ray123 Joined: Jan 26, 2015
Posts: 141
3/19/17 12:06:36 PM 
If they decide go at it alone don't think the rest would last as long as a snowcone.
Trinidad and Jamaica could field decent teams but I'm not so sure anyone else can.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
Posts: 73745
3/19/17 12:18:48 PM 
avatar image
In reply to Ray123

yes indeed. they are about to 3peat as regional 4 day champs

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
Posts: 65066
3/19/17 12:22:31 PM 
avatar image
Jamaica did a 5 peat. This is nothing new.

Dung heap 4 day cricket STILL SUCKS and all the franchise this and that hasn't changed a Forkane thing regarding developing quality international players

The ONLYreal progress that has been made is in the shortest form of the game. And that remains the ONLY ARENA where, aside from the odd exception, we produce quality international class cricketers.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
Posts: 73745
3/19/17 12:34:28 PM 
avatar image
In reply to imusic

u miss the point

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
Posts: 73745
3/19/17 12:35:52 PM 
avatar image
In reply to imusic

if they are only good at 20-20 are they still intl quality

dont rush to a conclusion. read that again

link NYCGURU Joined: Nov 29, 2003
Posts: 2323
3/19/17 12:36:14 PM 
In reply to imusic

My sentiments exactly. Am only interested in the ability to produce quality test players. Folks can beat their chest about Island pride,the fact remains we have not produced test quality players and that is why we are at the bottom of the rankings.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
Posts: 73745
3/19/17 12:37:24 PM 
avatar image
In reply to NYCGURU

but imusic still thinks about the 20-20 stars as intl quality

9/10 of them cannot play anything beyond 20-20 for any decent intl team...in fact can they even make another intl team outside of 20-20 and so how intl quality are they?

link Ray123 Joined: Jan 26, 2015
Posts: 141
3/19/17 12:40:16 PM 
In reply to doosra

Guyana was not included because their main players are an ageing Shiv ChanderPaul and a Barbadian.. otherwise they don't inspire much confidence for the future.

link Timpy Joined: Feb 10, 2003
Posts: 3209
3/19/17 12:42:18 PM 
In reply to doosra

Gayle and Narine can make any team in the world in both of the shorter versions of cricket.

link Timpy Joined: Feb 10, 2003
Posts: 3209
3/19/17 12:43:22 PM 
In reply to imusic

Dont we have to give the franchise thing some more time before we come to such conclusion?

link Gun_Play Joined: Nov 13, 2002
Posts: 3394
3/19/17 12:54:41 PM 
Cuss the bajans and can't get them beat.

Yet to lose a 4 day game this season.

A case of the best of the worst.

link Ray123 Joined: Jan 26, 2015
Posts: 141
3/19/17 1:01:50 PM 
In reply to Gun_Play

That is exactly my point. I can't make calls for a player to make the team when they can't out perform the same players we want dropped in regional cricket.
This is when they should prove the selectors wrong.

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
Posts: 9749
3/19/17 2:34:22 PM 
In reply to imusic

And you really think that Bim will not rise up as a T20 powerhouse.

link hawk Joined: Apr 1, 2007
Posts: 3189
3/19/17 2:34:58 PM 
In reply to Gun_Play

Cuss the bajans and can't get them beat.


oh how they are missing this point, Barbados pride is the best side in the league notwithstanding Guyana Jaguars has won the title last two years, they also proved they are the best List A side recently, yet all the complaining about the quantity of bajans on the West Indies side, i am still not seeing worthy replacements, no one is doing enough to unseat the incumbents

link hawk Joined: Apr 1, 2007
Posts: 3189
3/19/17 2:37:41 PM 
In reply to Timpy

Gayle and Narine can make any team in the world in both of the shorter versions of cricket.


you can't be serious

link Veracity Joined: Mar 20, 2015
Posts: 36
3/19/17 3:03:50 PM 
In reply to imusic

No island(players) can think that their superior because in the context of the big-picture WI cricket is in the lower quarter of world cricket. Sure the current level is below par but it is what we currently have, and if players are consistently performing then they should be rewarded.
I hear all comments about who should be picked for the ODI and 20/20 teams, and most of the players identified can't bat 25 overs or even for 2-sessions.
Players need to consistent (couple years of good contributions) before anyone should be thinking of them graduating to the highest level.
We have several tools at our disposal - look at other cricket playing nations and see what they are doing as it relates to players transiting to highest level, as well as the infrastructure.

link Norm Joined: Nov 28, 2002
Posts: 22313
3/19/17 3:15:22 PM 
Despite being seriously mismanaged by ambitious non-cricketers, the Guyana team is currently leading the first class competition points table. A match between the Guyana and Barbados teams in the next round should indicate which is the better team currently in first class cricket.

Any suggestions for improving West Indies cricket? There is an over-abundance of condemnation already.

Fans wanted a franchise system and they got it. This seems to have at least arrested the decline in the short term.

Fans complained that Cameron was the problem. Yet he got re-elected - again - this time unopposed.

Seems like those criticizing for the sake of criticizing are just a bunch of whiners to me.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
Posts: 73745
3/19/17 3:23:24 PM 
avatar image
In reply to Norm

if there's any hope it's that we have a group of 20-25s around that needs some nurturing but hey we have always had plenty

Hety
Shepherd
Lil Shiv
Paul
----------
etc

link sunfish Joined: Nov 13, 2002
Posts: 1739
3/19/17 3:45:40 PM 
The standards were higher in first half of the 4 day competition. Looks like a struggle after the break. Dunno maybe men became mentally jaded.

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: Jun 1, 2005
Posts: 46274
3/19/17 3:47:17 PM 
In reply to sunfish

... if that the case then they are not ready for international cricket

link Timpy Joined: Feb 10, 2003
Posts: 3209
3/19/17 3:49:47 PM 
In reply to hawk

Maybe you need to tell me a team in the world that they both would not be able to make and I am talking about the two shorter versions.

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
Posts: 9749
3/19/17 4:01:11 PM 
In reply to Norm

If you look at the last 3 years, u see that Bim had a higher percentage of rainout matches.
Let see how the direct mstch up play out this round .

link Timpy Joined: Feb 10, 2003
Posts: 3209
3/19/17 4:08:41 PM 
In reply to hawk

Looking on Warner last night, it seems like Gayle can make their test team as well. Zampa will play for them in the shorter version. Is Zampa better than Narine?

Anyway, I am waiting on the two opening bats them in lets say the top 4 international teams that Gayle wouldnt be able to replace.I have seen Gayle made International bowlers cry eye water big grin

link hawk Joined: Apr 1, 2007
Posts: 3189
3/19/17 4:12:05 PM 
In reply to Timpy

Narine is only effective in T20 as a batsmen don' have time to waste ball, they must go after the bowling this is how he thrives in ODI and even more in test you have time to be patient hence if you look at his stats, they get worse in the longer formats, plus all other teams have equally or better equipped spinners across formats

Gayle...which team will invest in a player who is constantly injured and unavailable for one reason or the next, a player who with all his success still lacks consistency, Gayle will make any T20 side, but that is as far as it goes for him

link Timpy Joined: Feb 10, 2003
Posts: 3209
3/19/17 5:14:14 PM 
In reply to hawk

Gayle play a great amount of successive games in all format. In the shorter version is stats are not far off from every great Windies opener in the past.

A lot of good players get injury often and they still invest in them. Starc comes to mind.

Very Happy Smile Sad Surprised Shocked Confused Cool Laughing Razz Embarassed Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Wink
 
Pages: 1  2  next