Just occupying the crease play into the
strategy of the Pakistan bowlers.
To this end I would replace Singh with
Blackwood (to bat at #4).
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West Indies batsmen must attack & take control
If the Pakistani bowlers are allowed to
build pressure they are clinical in
removing the plodding batsman.
In reply to Yadi
There are times you have to respect good bowling and buy your time.
The question is, do these players have the technique to buy time?
On a higher level, you cannot "contain" good batsmen like Lara. You have to go all out to get him out or else, he will buy his time (respect good bowling) but eventually find a way to score and take the game away from you.
The majority of the players are technically deficient and mentally weak to an extent.
When you cannot average around 40 on a consistent basis in regional tournament, chances are your performance will beg questions at the higher level.
It's unfortunate to see a lad who makes a good score against his opponent however, his regional average is found wanting but immediately drafted him into the squad.
We continue to destroy the youths. There will never be another Lara or Marshal but given the limited resources, we can achieve much more if we set higher standards when it comes to the selection process.The time given to harness their techniques..metal preparation tc at the domestic level and a proper coaching club structure in every country.
In reply to Yadi
Easy Bro.
If you mean go in there and fling bat, then the game will be over in 3 days. As we know Blackwood is not very aware of game situ.
Bringing in Blackwood for Singh is not the thing to do.
What are you telling Singh? You get to show your game in one test match? He looked the part.
The batting failed from the top. And to be fair to sing, his outs were from a good attacking shot in the first innings(as you were asking for attacking) and the second innings he was outfoxed by a peach.
Put things into perspective before you start cutting and dicing.
In reply to thomasthomas & runout
Yadi is a West Indies Cricket Historian.
In reply to Yadi
Understandable WI should attack but dropping your most attacking player certainly not helping our batting attack!
In reply to Yadi
Just occupying the crease play into the
strategy of the Pakistan bowlers.
To this end I would replace Singh with
Blackwood (to bat at #4).
So....who you replacing Kraigg Brathwaite with?
So ... I am reminding older folks ... & teaching younger folks about a rebuilding period ... of the not too distant past.
In reply to imusic
Mr. CryImusic,
Can you recall the tour to India of the Clive Lloyd led team ... that included the debuting: Gordon Greenidge & Vivian Richards?
In reply to Slipfeeler
Because Clive Lloyd knew that if you poke and plod against the likes of: Bedi, Prasana, Venkat and Chandrasheka ... it would only be a matter
of time.
These were the BEST spinners of that era.
In reply to runout
Once they pin you down ..... You are as good as dead.
In reply to imusic
Cry Music,
Right there at Sabina Park I watched with my own two eyes:
Venkataragavan pinned the great Roy Fredricks at one end with three consecutive maiden overs ....
Meanwhile Bishen Singh Bedi pinned the great Lawrence Yaga Rowe ... also with three consecutive maiden overs.
In reply to thomasthomas
And then the INEVITABLE happened:
Lawrence Rowe had had enough: So he gave Bedi "The Charge"
In reply to thomasthomas
..... And that was ALL she wrote.
In reply to Yadi
and politicians must be honest and take control to care about the people.
I should have known better than to respond to a nut case
In reply to Yadi
Yadi, I get you. But just throwing caution to the wind will not be to the benefit to the team nor the individual. Back then we had competent players, who knew how to construct an innings.
And btw, as a cricket historian, you will also know the strike rates were when WI played India. Nothing to write home about. However our batsmen should counter-attack and seize session by session. Lets not try to win the game in one day. This is test cricket, not lick-it cricket.
In reply to Yadi
debuting?
Seems the attacking idea is getting tired now, while the opposition is hammering home the the contrary. Case in point Pakistan batting- specifically Younis Khan and Misbah.
There must be a balance between attack and defense, and that requires batting with your brain.
In reply to thomasthomas...
In reply to runout
Looked the part? A peach... ? I don't know about a peach. The man leave the wrong ball, big mis-judgement. Was probably anticipating a short ball.
In reply to anadayardi
No man...were you looking at the game? The ball swung a long way outside offstump.
Where was he anticipating a short ball? Any trigger movement told you that?
Anyways, you may have seen something I overlooked.
Cheers!
In reply to Yadi
have you not heard of the great man's advice?
"watch the ball, if it look fat, attack. If it look fine, block."
In reply to Yadi
if it fat, attack
In reply to runout
Here you go buddy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsKEhqbGLRI), that ball was always coming in it wasn't any late or exaggerated swing. But if you look, It seems he already planned on leaving that ball before it was even bowled. That's why I said maybe he was anticipating a bouncer. Amir swings the ball both ways, so if he could not have been anticipating only outswingers...but IDK thats just my thought....But what do I know, I never played test cricket. But if you think he looks the part...
Cheers
In reply to runout
Vivian Richards, Ritchie Richardson &
Brian Lara or Chris Gayle do not throw
caution to the wind.
In reply to natty_forever
What those batsmen do well is to take
the initiative away from the spinner.
In reply to imusic
In other words when spinners bowl to
these batsmen their primary concern is
to not get hit for a four or a six.
In reply to Slipfeeler
The sweep shot ... the reverse sweep
.... the scoop shot down to fine leg
have been added in recent time to
disrupt the "good balls" or dot ball
situation.
In reply to thomasthomas
I could never be suggesting that our
batsmen just have a wild swing at top
class bowling.
Sir Garfield Sobers himself strongly recommend
that a batsman not allow a spinner to
bowl too many consecutive dot balls to
them.
Because the bowler is figuring out a
way to use the built up frustration to
take your wicket.
In reply to Yadi
What is too many consecutive dot balls? What If the pitch is offering some turn and the bowler uses guile and variations in pace? Is the batsman supposed to premeditate his next shot because he has not been able to score off that bowler?
Yadi...none of these guys have the class like the players you mentioned.
Also, our bowlers have to take some responsibility. We can't have opposition teams making 400+ consistently. What that means is that our players are out on the filed longer...no rest will cause mental lapse.
In reply to Priapus
When the young Ritchie Richardson came into test cricket spin bowlers could
bowl.
In reply to runout
However, every three balls ... or so a fielder was fetching the ball from
across the boundary rope.
In reply to Priapus
Nobody couldn't lay any willow on England's Derrick Underwood ....
Not until the young Vivian Richard catch his @ss.
In reply to Priapus
Nobody can't read let alone hit Murali Muraliteran ... & he fling doosra ..
That was until Brian Lara & Wavell Hinds ambush his little @$$.
In reply to thomasthomas
Look at Permaul & Benn .. they can bowl to any West Indies
However ... they CANNOT bowl to CHRIS GAYLE.
In reply to runout
Even the spin WIZARD Shane Warne: Brian Lara & Carl Hooper gang up on him
and beat his @$$ .. like a step-child.
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