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deanjones 2017-06-26 08:30:33 

John McEnroe recently said on NPR,

The truth is ... the game has become more athletic than ever, and quicker, you need to be more athletic, and our best athletes mainly are playing in basketball or football


This is exactly what happened to cricket in the WI. The good news is at least in Guyana I see more black athletes playing cricket like in the 80's I think due to popularity of 20/20.

 
Devin 2017-06-26 08:51:33 

In reply to deanjones

What other sports are being played in the Caribbean? Dwayne Bravo, Pullhard, Russell. Are they not extremely athletic? Why is it that they only excel in 20/20 cricket and not the other two formats?

 
deanjones 2017-06-26 09:16:19 

In reply to Devin

You think those three would make the West Indies team of the 80's? BTW, football and basketball are very popular in the Caribbean.

 
Khaga 2017-06-26 09:20:33 

In reply to Devin

Americans taking to basketball or baseball over tennis is real..Caribbean people taking to basketball over cricket is a myth propagated to obfuscate the reality of eclipse of stone age domination in cricket..

 
gvenkat 2017-06-26 09:36:05 

In reply to Khaga

And Americans still produce world class players who are in the top 20. This guy is a nut case. Sock, isner etc. Are still capable of beating the big 5.

 
deanjones 2017-06-26 09:57:57 

Ambrose said if it weren't for his mom, he would have played basketball over cricket. How many athletes like Ambrose have we lost like that to other sports.

 
Khaga 2017-06-26 09:58:18 

In reply to gvenkat

I don't have an issue with McEnroe's assessment based on American situation. deanjones' extrapolation is foolish though, but not surprising at all..

 
tc1 2017-06-26 11:09:21 

In reply to deanjones


The bigger picture is the community does not support cricket, cricket is now played in the gyms.

 
Tryangle 2017-06-26 11:16:04 

The problem with the extrapolation is that you would then assume that Caribbean nations would be much better in international football and basketball. We know that's not the case. T&F perhaps, but it's not like the Caribbean has suddenly become world class overnight.

More likely is that Windies have punched above their weight for many years thanks to a great cricket 'culture', cricket as a unifying force, etc. Nowadays, the culture has fallen off, countries with more resources/population are performing better, Windies have stagnated on the men's side. The issues between players and Boards haven't helped.

 
Khaga 2017-06-26 11:56:22 

In reply to Tryangle


More likely is that Windies have punched above their weight for many years thanks to a great cricket 'culture', cricket as a unifying force, etc. Nowadays, the culture has fallen off, countries with more resources/population are performing better, Windies have stagnated on the men's side. The issues between players and Boards haven't helped.


Fair shot at a reasonable argument.. The reason for your domination is darker and bitter. A lot of countries didn't really care for cricket in that era. For your guys, it was an escape from cane fields and proving to your ex-rulers..

 
gvenkat 2017-06-26 12:07:50 

In reply to Khaga

For your guys, it was an escape from cane fields and proving to your ex-rulers..


Yep.Even Viv and Clive Lloyd said that in "Fire in Babylon".

 
NewsJunkie 2017-06-26 13:44:37 

Cricket is a b-grade sport from a global perspective. Attractive to a small niche and 3rd world countries searching for an arena where they can compete at a decent level against 1st world countries where the sport is a distant 3rd or lower in terms of attracting talented sportsmen.

 
Tryangle 2017-06-26 15:11:22 

In reply to NewsJunkie

Well that would go back to the ICC and their own insular attitude. They kept 'highest level' cricket a members-only club, stifling any chance at growth. It's been glacial in growing the sport and providing access to the global market. Even now, they've reduced spots to its premier global tournament to a meager TEN, while rugby union, basketball, soccer are always finding ways to really increase the global fanbase. They're too worried about diluting of stats and other nonsense instead of an on-field product that attracts those who ordinarily see the sport as some colonial relic.