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Prime Minister Rowley Take Them To Court .

 
POINT 2017-07-20 15:31:29 

I would like to remind You that the
the WICBC/CWI for years have bamboozled
the General Public by Commissioning
several Reports regarding the Structure
of the WICBC .

When they received those Reports , they
swiftly discarded them , without taking on Board the salient Features of those
Reports . In essence They perpetrated
A Hoax on the General Public .

Do not be fooled by this talk about
Temporary Amnesty , that is simply
another one of their Machiavellian Tactics . My perspective is that it
is Your willingness to take the WICBC/CWI to Court why suddenly they
are talking about TEMPORARY AMNESTY .

 
CITYBOY 2017-07-20 21:25:19 

Hola...you are a good man...keeping up the fight for what you perceive to be right and JUSTICE...and I admire you for that....however the forming of WICB now called CWI was never a spin off from any government in the West indies...it was created so that all regional boards can speak with one voice with regards to selection of a WEST INDIAN representative team...Over the years things changed...but the mandate is still the same....no Caricom leader can say squat about CWI....the leaders of those countries should carry out their own mandate...creating employment,economic growth etc...and stop giving away the rights to their countries to foreigners...beaches gone,resources gone..should we continue...so those Caricom leaders better do their own work and let CWI do theirs...if they do not like what is happening at CWI..they can influence their cricket board to try and enact or work on some changes...thats it....CWI is not going anywhere...and whether you like it or not the ICC will only deal with them....not any Caricom leader.
But Point ....you must continue in your quest for justice as you see it..after all...you have been at it for many many years...so dont give up now.
ADIOS
CB

 
sgtdjones 2017-07-20 21:32:59 

In reply to CITYBOY

Thanks for applauding Point on his tireless fight for change.

Some may disagree with his format but I say to him keep up the fight.

Cityboy I see the first change in T&T Dinas and Ganga, then next will be Guyana. That will be two stakeholders we need one more
a Jamaica.

2018 will be very interesting with stakeholders election.

One more stakeholder on board and out goes the old geezers,
then make it a Caribbean entity that is owned by the citizens of the Caribbean and Guyana.

We haven't got far to go before we hit rock bottom.

 
POINT 2017-07-20 23:35:48 

In reply to CITYBOY

With all due respect Please Google
the LODHAR COMMITTEE VS THE BCCI .
You will find it very , very Instructive .

That case went to the India Supreme
Court . I will give you some background information . The Lodhar
Committee was setup to make recommendations for the BCCI to implement in its Stewardship of Cricket in India .

The BCCI was very tardy in implementing the Lodhar Committee's
recommendations ; and the matter went
to the India Supreme Court .

The Judges were not impressed by the
answers they got from the Officials
of the BCCI , and they verbally slapped around the Officials of the
BCCI . They ordered the BCCI to implement the Lodha Committee recommendations .

The BCCI was still tardy , and that
infuriated the India Supreme Court Judges to the point where they :

REMOVED THE PRESIDENT & SECRETARY OF

THE BCCI FROM THEIR OFFICIAL

POSITIONS IN THE BCCI .

Then recently the Ex President of the
BCCI ,stated that he got a letter from President of the ICC he wanted
to give the Court . Evidently that was untrue , and that also infuriated
the Judges , the last I read , They
demanded that he come to the Court &
Apologise for his behaviour .

 
POINT 2017-07-20 23:46:52 

In reply to CITYBOY

Some of the Issues that were brought up in the India Supreme Court are very similar to what WE have with the WICBC/CWI .

Lack of Transparency & Lack of Accountability . In the Court , the
President of the BCCI stated that
the BCCI was a Private Entity , the Standard claim by all Cricket Boards .

The Judges were not impressed , One stated that the BCCI cannot claim to be a Private Entity , when it selects
a National Team to represent India in
International Cricket .

It was the ICC that stated that Governments cannot intervene in Cricket , which is pure unadulterated
B.S . That was & is a Ploy to ensure
that International Cricket Boards Rule Cricket with an Iron Fist .

The Supreme Court of India has dispelled that B.S Forever . In this Region , Prime Minister Rowley , has stated that he has got a Legal opinion that says that HE has Legal
Standing to take the WICBC/CWI to Court .

This means , that once again the idea
that Governments cannot intervene in Cricket is going to come under siege ; if PM.Rowley takes the WICBC/CWI.

I have absolutely no doubt that if
PM.Rowley takes the WICBC /CWI to Court HE will win . In 2007 the Cricket World Cup was held in the Region .

THE HOSTING OF THAT TOURNAMENT WAS

DUE TO THE GOVERNMENTS IN THE REGION

USING TAXPAYERS MONEY TO ASSIST THE

WICBC IN HOSTING THE 2007 TOURNAMENT

IN THE REGION .

I cite this to state that the Governments in the Region Individually or Collectively have
Standing in any Law Court in the Region regarding the WICBC/CWI Stewardship of Cricket in the Region .

 
POINT 2017-07-21 00:12:10 

In reply to CITYBOY

For decades now the WICBC has Commissioned several Reports regarding its 89 years old Structure ; they then
discarded those Reports without implementing the salient features of
those Reports .

In essence the WICBC perpetrated a Cruel Hoax on the People in the Region
PM. Rowley can bring this fact up in Court . Obviously it will be very interesting to hear the WICBC'S reason for not making serious Structural Changes .

My perspective is that when PM.Rowley
prevails in Court , that will have very serious repercussions for ALL
INTERNATIONAL CRICKET BOARDS , because it will mean that Cricketers ,Individually or Collectively will
have standing in Court to bring lawsuits against their Cricket Boards .

 
POINT 2017-07-21 00:26:50 

In reply to CITYBOY

BTW , I invite You to Google :

THE FORMATION OF INTERNATIONAL CRICKET

BOARDS , LOOK AT PAKISTAN .

You will find that on 4 SEPARATE occasions the President of Pakistan:

FIRED THE PAKISTAN CRICKET BOARD

APPOINTED A CHAIRMAN & AN AD HOC

COMMITTEE TO GOVERN CRICKET IN

PAKISTAN UNTIL THERE WERE FRESH

ELECTIONS FOR OFFICERS TO THE

PAKISTAN CRICKET BOARD .

Interestingly there was nary a word
from the ICC . Closer to home , the
Government of Guyana took the GCB to
Court , the case was heard ; and interestingly , there was nary a word
from either the ICC or the WICBC .

 
CITYBOY 2017-07-21 07:16:24 

In reply to POINT

Hola...Point the countries that you are using as examples have 1 cricket board...our set up is a bit unique...the WI countries have their own cricket board and then the CWI that have reps from each country/board.
As much as you would think that the other countries (as you named them India/Pakistan) resolution is applicable to our situation...I doubt it very much.
Thanks for your responses...and as you indicated...ICC nor WICB/CWI said nary with regards to Guyana and its board..and that is the crux...individual govts can harass their own boards....but cannot touch CWI.
Take care.
Adios
CB

 
POINT 2017-07-21 08:06:07 

In reply to CITYBOY

WE also have One Cricket Board that Represents the Region , and that Cricket Board has Representatives from all the Regional Cricket Boards .

ALL THE REGIONAL CRICKET BOARDS ABIDE

BY THE DECISIONS OF THE WICBC/CWI .

LET ME REMIND YOU THAT THE WICBC

WHEN IT DECIDED TO HOST THE 2007

CRICKET WORLD CUP BEGGED THE REGIONAL

GOVERNMENTS FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

ALL the Governments in the Region assisted the WICBC in hosting the 2007 World Cup , by loosing the Coffers of TAXPAYERS MONEY to help
the WICBC .

Quite frankly I am beginning to believe that You are an Emissary of
the Emperor ; I simply want Prime Minister Rowley to bring a Case against the WICBC /CWI , because I am of the opinion that Individually & or
Collectively the Regional Governments
have standing in any Court in the Region .

Why is it that all of a Sudden You have suddenly surfaced in this Forum
The Emperor & his Minions are very will known for their Machiavellian Tactics .

What you have stated should be the catalyst for Prime Minister Rowley to
take the WICBC/CWI to Court to test your specious belief .

I find it interesting that You relish surfacing in this Forum on my Posts .I simply want PM. Rowley to have his day in Court , My understanding is that he has got Legal Advice that he
can Proceed .

Perhaps YOU can state here this this
pertinent Question , since YOU seem to possess all the Answers :

WHAT PRECISELY WAS THE PURPOSE OF

THE WICBC ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS

COMMISSIONING SEVERAL REPORTS WITH

REGARDS TO ITS 89 YEARS OLD STRUCTURE

AND THEN ON RECEIVING THOSE REPORTS

SWIFTLY DISCARDED THEM ; WITHOUT

TAKING ON BOARD THE SALIENT FEATURES

OF THOSE REPORTS ?????

The WICBC/CWI can Run , but it sure as Hell cannot Hide .

 
CITYBOY 2017-07-21 08:59:38 

In reply to POINT

Hola....no no Point..sorry if I came across as if I have all the answers and solutions....quite the contraire....I am just an observer trying to understand and piece together ,and most of all make sense of all the dissatisfaction that exists .
I have no interest in who is right or wrong...I am just interested in everyone working towards a common goal...to uplift the standard of cricket that will make us competitive,make sure that our future cricketers are paid well(as this is their chosen field)..and most of all DO NOT ALLOW THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE YOUNGSTERS...to just disappear..thus contributing to their downfall.
The local/country boards with all their infighting and wrangling does not help.There is a lot of work at that level that has to be done...but with all the nastiness between the CWI and these boards it will take a tremendous effort to turn this thing around.A common goal is a start...but who knows..
But sorry to disappoint..I am not a know it all..nor do I think I have the solution....I do know however..that if I was in charge..I WILL BE IN CHARGE thats the only way it can work...too many meetings/inputs just become meaningless..
Adios
CB

 
POINT 2017-07-21 09:31:47 

In reply to CITYBOY

Pardon the pun , but the point I am making is that PM. Rowley can, by taking the WICBC/CWI to Court can change the whole landscape regarding
the ICC & International Cricket Boards .

I have absolutely no doubt that In Court PM.Rowley will prevail , and that will seriously damage the ICC and its Member Boards . PM. Rowley's
victory will reverberate throughout
the Cricket Playing Countries .

In essence as I have stated , The ICC
& the International Cricket Boards will be naked before the World , since their utterances about Government not intervening in Cricket
was & is a very cruel Hoax , designed
to protect the perceived Power that
the ICC & its Members believe they have .

Again as I have stated ; the Relationship between Players & their
Boards will be changed forever . It
would possibly mean that eg Bravo could sue Cameron for stating that he
had a certain level of Contract that
Bravo never had .

In essence the Playing Field between Cricket Boards & Players will be level . That I am sure will give Cricket Boards pause , Currently they
are empowered to be as Cantankerous &
Arrogant as they want ; Players being
on a level Playing Field with their
Employers .

 
POINT 2017-07-21 21:06:30 

In reply to CITYBOY

I simply want you & others to point out something that I have written that
is untrue . It is just that simple .

My Critics love saying that I repeat myself , but as I have stated if someone asks Me question that I answered sometime before , I obviously will have to restate what I stated before .

 
CITYBOY 2017-07-21 21:24:52 

In reply to POINT
Hola...Point I am a bit too set in my ways and opinion regarding CWI and its relations with country boards...nothing changes until country boards changes..it does not matter whom suing whom..who wrote analytical reports or who said what....nothing changes..no one suing no one and no one collecting..CWI has a revenue stream with or without
boards..with or without winning....its a shell game brother....and CWI is where the action's at...you may not like the administrators but they can be replaced...until that happens keep putting your point across.
ADIOS
CB

 
POINT 2017-07-21 22:56:16 

In reply to CITYBOY

You have wittingly or unwittingly made my Point ; and which I believe PM.Rowley has also perceived , which the fact that the WICBC / CWI has bluntly refused to implement the salient Recommendations of ALL the Reports that the WICBC/CWI itself has
recommended . Regarding its Structure .

YOU like others who worship the Emperor & his Minions have blunt refused to focus on this important Issue . I have always asked my Critics , and I am now asking You this pertinent Question :

WHAT PRECISELY WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE

WICBC COMMISSIONING SEVERAL REPORTS

WHEN IN FACT IT HAD & HAS ABSOLUTELY

NO INTENTION OF CHANGING ITS 89 YEARS

OLD STRUCTURE ??????

In this Forum I have regularly stated
that The Regional Boards MUST ALSO BE
COMPLETELY RESTRUCTURED . I get the impression that you do not believe that PM.ROWLEY has Standing in Court
to demand that the WICBC /CWI undergo
serious Structural Changes .

Events regarding the BCCI & its humbling by the India Supreme Court ;
informs me that PM. Rowley from a Legal perspective is standing on Solid Ground . When the case is heard
WE will both find out whether the Emperor's status will undergo a dramatic change .

 
CITYBOY 2017-07-22 07:02:54 

In reply to POINT

HOLA...This poster worships no one...do not star gaze nor is in bewilderment of others....
I stick to reality...not mirages nor mirrors...it does not who is in charge of CWI...like him/her...or hate him/her...
bottom line is the regional governments ...and I repeat only blowing smoke...as they say...smoke and mirrors...they cant do squat...as I indicated...which population whilst..trying to make aliving.living in abject poverty..and as they say things hard..are concerned about the government trying to enrich a few STARS???,get real...no support..Government better get going on their own mandate...create jobs,get crime rates down,look after the people...
ok sir...so nothing changes...just orchestrate the CWI administrators removal...and lets get on with life...emperor or no emperor...who wears the crown is normally the king/queen...we may not like it but its a sad fact....
Take care...how is things down your way..stay out of sun...too hot.
Adios
CB

 
POINT 2017-07-22 08:33:28 

In reply to CITYBOY

I perceive that You are an Emissary of
the Worst International Cricket Board
in the Commonwealth . I therefore have absolutely no intention to change that
point of view .

I have come to this conclusion , because you have bluntly refused to
address the salient factors that I have consistently stated .

I can only conclude that your only
fixation is that Cricket Worst Idiots ,aka CWI must be left alone to
do as it pleases . That is totally
unacceptable .

When People in an Organization for years now have commissioned several Reports , and then on receiving those
Reports have done little or nothing to implement the salient Features of
those Reports it obviously means that
they were & are not serious about Changing .

That being the case , the only way to
bring about change is to force them to change . The India Supreme Court
has illustrated a Template that can be followed to bring the Emperor & his Minions to the Courts .

You failed to address the fact that
Taxpayers money is subsidizing the
Worst International Cricket Board in
the Commonwealth , that being the case , Governments in the Region , on behalf of their Citizens do have Standing .

YOU like the Arrogant people in the governance of West Indies Cricket are
seemingly opposed to PM. Rowley having his day in Court . Since You and your handlers believe that You ALL will prevail , why is it that You
their Emissary is scared of the Prime
Minister of Trinidad & Tobago have his Day in Court ?????

The Prime Minister has stated that he
has enquired into this matter regarding whether or not he has Standing ; and was assured that he does indeed have Standing to proceed to the Court .

That however seems to alarm You & Others very much , I find it very interesting that suddenly you have come to this Forum , out of the Blue on July 11TH. 2017 .

I have been in this Forum since January 2 ,2003 . I have never deviated from the fact that the WICBC/CWI must be removed because its
Members have bluntly refused to restructure its 89 years old Structure .

I am not going to respond to your Obfuscations and Support of those
whose only interest is to remain in the governance of Cricket with their
89 years old Security Blanket .

VAYA CON DIOS , HASTA LA VISTA .

 
POINT 2017-07-22 08:50:28 

Prime Minister Rowley , on behalf of
the People in Trinidad & Tobago , & the People in the Region . I urge YOU
to take the WICBC /CWI to Court .

You have asked for legal advice regarding whether or not you have standing ; and You have got the green Light to proceed to the Court .

It is high time that this Charade;
that has been foisted on the People of the Region come to an end .For years these Modern Day Pirates of the Caribbean , have refused to come into the 21st Century , by sticking with their 89 years old Structure .

It is high time that there is some semblance of Equality between those in the governance of Cricket and the Players . This Arrogant ; Cantankerous ; and Hostile Attitude
must come to an End .

Prime Minister Rowley , you are the only Prime Minister in the Region who
as had the Testicular Fortitude to
Stand up to those in the Worst International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth .

Be Bold , so that the Tyranny of the
ICC and its Members perpetually stating that Governments must not meddle in the Affairs of Cricket , become not only a thing of the Past
but puts an end to the Dictatorial
Behaviour of the ICC & its Members .

 
CITYBOY 2017-07-22 10:20:26 

In reply to POINT

Hola....

Topic closed for me...you did not wear me down....but you giving same lines years and years...over and over..but keep it up...
ADIOS
CB

 
POINT 2017-07-22 14:15:20 

I find it very interesting that Some
People seem to be deathly afraid of
the fact that Prime Minister Rowley
intends to take the WICBC/ CWI to Court .

My understanding is that PM Rowley has
sought Legal Opinion on the matter and
was informed that HE has standing to
take the WICBC/CWI to Court .

That being the case Let US ALL await
PM. Rowley's move . I am confident that He will prevail , his perspective on this matter , in my opinion , is solidly buttressed by
the WICBC/CWI perpetual failures to incorporate the salient Recommendations of the various Reports that they themselves have commissioned .

It is my belief also that the fact that WE currently live in a Global Village , and News travels as fast as the speed of Light .

The Judges will take into consideration the decision of the
India Supreme Court regarding The
Total Arrogance of the Board Of Control Cricket India .

In that Case the Judges of the India
Supreme Court ; because of the Intransigence of the BCCI , took the extra Ordinary Step to remove both
the President & the Secretary of the BCCI from their Offices .

So WE must all take note of the fact that the perceived idea peddled by
the International Cricket Crooks , about Governments cannot intervene in
Cricket is simply a Cruel Hoax .

When matters involving Cricket go to the Courts , The ICC & The International Cricket Boards are akin
to Toothless Tigers . ALL the perceived Power the ICC says it has ;
it was not in India to support the BCCI .

Closer to the Region , I do not recall the ICC being in Guyana , when
the Government of Guyana took the GCB to Court .