This ODI squad looks really light on batting

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link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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9/12/17 10:01:32 AM 
Especially given Kyle's shortcomings with the bat so far.

I expect Ambris to get a look in, and Powell is increasingly looking not even as good as the previous R Powell.


Walton and or Blackwood might have been better additions to this squad than Cummins and or Bishoo

link RemainsUnknown Joined: Apr 15, 2005
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9/12/17 11:43:23 AM 
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West Indies (possible):
1 Chris Gayle,
2 Evin Lewis,
3 Marlon Samuels,
4 Shai Hope (wk),
5 Jason Mohammed,
6 Jason Holder (capt),
7 Rovman Powell,
8 Ashley Nurse,
9 Devendra Bishoo,
10 Jerome Taylor,
11 Kesrick Williams

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link VIX Joined: Feb 7, 2003
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9/12/17 11:46:08 AM 
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especially considering the WI's fantastic batting lineup in other formats?? big grin

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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9/12/17 11:52:36 AM 
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lol lol lol

EXACTLY!!!

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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9/12/17 11:57:24 AM 
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Being less and less impressed by Powell.

I think he maybe needs more List A cricket..maybe even FC cricket.

I no longer think he should be in the ODI line up just now, Walton or Blackwood would be better fits.

And I would have Ambris in that line up instead of Bishoo..Powell on the Bench, and either Walton or Blackwood in the line up, with the other as cover on the bench.

I think Kyle and Ambris are the only reserve batsmen..Kyle is ..just Kyle...Hopeless..wasted selection given all that has happened so far

link jen Joined: Jan 4, 2008
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9/12/17 12:00:45 PM 
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That batting very thin, i'd move Ambris to 5, Mohammed to 6, and leave out Rovman Powell. Depending on conditions, Joseph may play for Bishoo.

Something tells me that Evin Lewis will do well with Gayle at the other end being able to guide and motivate him. And Lewis need to play his natural game, not the crap he was doing against England trying to change his natural instinct. Man made to hit ball. Just hit the ball and them like he knows to.

link Andy99 Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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9/13/17 10:44:57 AM 
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Gayle
Lewis
Samuels
Hope
Mohammed
Ambris
Holder
Powell
Nurse
Williams
Joseph

Cummins and Taylor is a waste pick.

True about Lewis, I made the comment during the last series, he is not someone u try to make bat thru the innings.

And Mohamed I think 6 might be to low for him, he needs to get in before the last 20 overs to build an innings, although this team could be 4 down quickly.

Samuels, I'd like WI to move on from but I dont disagree with his pick as he is one of the best limited overs bat WI have so he plays.

Powell lucky to play but as I said Cummins and Taylor are a joke, Joseph has to play ahead of them. Bishoo could get a look in too.

link analyst-kid Joined: Feb 22, 2003
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9/13/17 11:20:42 AM 
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Is Holder smart enough to realise that Gayle/Samuels/Mohammed/Powell are all bowling options?

Holder will always go for five clear bowling options...he just don't see any other bowling options.

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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9/14/17 10:31:07 AM 
Given the squad..looks like Powell will have to get a look in..batting at 7


Lewis
Gayle
Samuels
Hope
Mohammed
Ambris
Powell
Holder
Nurse
Taylor
Williams

Interesting stat..Taylor has only played 2 ODIS in England previously..back in 2009 where he was our bowler of the 3 match series with 4 wickets lol

I think he gets a look in before Aljo who has not been that impressive in ODIs, or on tour at all so far.

Not usually a big fan of Taylor for limited overs contests, but given the squad..Williams and Nurse are 1 and 2, and Then Taylor plays ahead of Bishoo, Cummins, Aljo

why is this squad so packed with bowlers?

How many specialist bowlers they planning to play?

Do other ODI teams select more than 3 specialist bowlers? I'm of the opinion an ODI team should be 5 batsmen, 3 allrounders including wk and 3 bowlers.

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 28, 2003
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9/14/17 10:42:55 AM 
In reply to DIEHARD... probably listening to me. But I wanted more bowlers for the Test Team.

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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9/14/17 11:08:01 AM 
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Agreed for tests, different philosophy there..twenty wickets needed, and we have very few quality batsmen anyway..Holder is as good as a number 6 or 7 for WI, and not a good enough bowler to keep out the likes of Rampaul, Taylor, Miller

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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9/14/17 11:22:08 AM 
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Holder will always go for five clear bowling options...he just don't see any other bowling options.


He does not see many options period.

I like Holder. If I had to choose a neighbour he would be among my top three. But as a captain he does not seem like a man who understands how to use his options.

Most games boil down to a success strategy based on using your strengths against your opponent's weaknesses (while preventing your opponent from doing the same). I don't think Holder gets it.

link analyst-kid Joined: Feb 22, 2003
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9/14/17 11:23:01 AM 
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Do other ODI teams select more than 3 specialist bowlers? I'm of the opinion an ODI team should be 5 batsmen, 3 allrounders including wk and 3 bowlers.


im here wondering why players like Emrit,Reifer and even Primus could be left out esp Reifer who was up there in Eng.

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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9/14/17 11:40:45 AM 
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Is Holder smart enough to realise that Gayle/Samuels/Mohammed/Powell are all bowling options?



The only option from the above is Gayle and he have not bowl in 10 years

link analyst-kid Joined: Feb 22, 2003
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9/14/17 11:48:21 AM 
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Powell is a good death bowler. Much better than Taylor at the death.

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
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9/14/17 12:07:02 PM 
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Much better than Taylor at the death.


May be better all the time.

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 28, 2003
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9/14/17 12:42:38 PM 
WEST INDIES CRICKET LIGHT ON BATTING! EVEN IF WE PICK 7!

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9/14/17 1:10:22 PM 
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lol

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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9/14/17 8:20:22 PM 
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Powell is a good death bowler. Much better than Taylor at the death.



Pray tell me what have Powell done to be considered a bowler or a batsman.

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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9/14/17 10:06:00 PM 
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Tallawahs needed him to perform and he failed this CPL.

He doesn't have the goods

link NYCGURU Joined: Nov 29, 2003
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9/15/17 10:43:06 AM 
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Dont think you will get an answer to your question. It was probably for comic relief. This is a very funny forum indeed.

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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9/15/17 11:40:43 AM 
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fair answer, his record as an ODI player is substandard, maybe he will improve

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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9/15/17 11:43:28 AM 
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I wanted the Kid to post his profile if I miss What Powell had done, maybe he will come good like Shai

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 28, 2003
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9/15/17 12:00:46 PM 
Okay, do we have 6 batters with a 40odd average who have played in the "PCL" these past 3 yrs?


Would be interesting to know if they are all in this squad.

I know of one - SD Hope.

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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9/15/17 1:09:04 PM 
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Chase avg 40 in 4D, not sure about 1 D set up

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