Guyana: The return of rigging

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link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 1:53:54 PM 
Granger has decided that he has the right to choose Election's Commission chairman.

The laws were deliberately set in such a way (I think by Jimmy Carter etc) that the govt cannot dictate this sensitive position, that a collaboration is required by both sides to fill the position. The opposition would provide a list of qualified persons and the president would appoint from that list.

The president has so far rejected 2 lists of candidates, saying that the persons are unfit without providing any reasons WHY they are unfit.

Now that the third list is submitted he is making clear his intention to unilaterally appoint the chairman.

The future is looking dire in Guyana. The appetites are whetted by the promise of oil and morals, integrity are going out the window.

Dictatorship is back.

link ray Joined: Feb 7, 2003
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10/4/17 1:57:48 PM 
Guyanese need to get some backbone

link Ninetenjack Joined: Dec 10, 2002
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10/4/17 2:15:14 PM 
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Stalin said it ain't the people that vote that counts, it's the people who count the votes that count.....profound wisdom here big grin big grin big grin

link granite Joined: Nov 1, 2013
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10/4/17 3:01:50 PM 
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A certain poster here on this MB will be well pleased,suits him fine.

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 3:17:20 PM 
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A certain poster here on this MB will be well pleased,suits him fine.


You will notice a certain doctor and a certain US govt worker no longer critical on Guyana govt activities...

Very instructive

If these learned individuals demonstrate such one-sidedness what can we expect from the common man.

Because these things are not called out by these same set of people, the cabal feels they have a free pass and will continue on this tangent without thinking twice

At least the PPP had people from their own circle that stood up and called a spade a spade.

I feel, its much more difficult to find a fair thinking individual, oil profits to be shared and all

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 3:19:55 PM 
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Guyanese need to get some backbone


They have but they are crooked

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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10/4/17 3:23:41 PM 
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I do not forget the accusations they tossed at me. A banas who left Guyana as a youth, and called a spade a spade.

link CITYBOY Joined: Jul 11, 2017
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10/4/17 3:26:29 PM 
Hola..I aint the doctor...but I do know this...the alternative is a bunch of thieves..yes thats the PPP..all of a sudden they are trustworthy...man all you give me a break...sad thing is they still garner support..so what that makes you??..A crook too..
Look PNC will theif and rig...they are in power and they can manipulate...but I do not want any of those PPP boys around for a long long time...they have no blasted shame....Granger let them off the hook..
Anyway we know the PNC will thief...but its their time now...PPP ..I cannot stand with anyone that steals...and they were good at it..
ADIOS
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link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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10/4/17 3:33:30 PM 
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You cannot justify one over the other, Guyana needs to get young, honest, educated politicians. Fresh blood. cool

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 3:35:26 PM 

Hola..I aint the doctor...but I do know this...the alternative is a bunch of thieves..yes thats the PPP..all of a sudden they are trustworthy...man all you give me a break...sad thing is they still garner support..so what that makes you??..A crook too..
Look PNC will theif and rig...they are in power and they can manipulate...but I do not want any of those PPP boys around for a long long time...they have no blasted shame....Granger let them off the hook..
Anyway we know the PNC will thief...but its their time now...PPP ..I cannot stand with anyone that steals...and they were good at it..
ADIOS
CB


There is "thieving" and there is tyranny

While human nature will exhibit itself in all govts, a lot of "Thieving" sometimes is a perception fostered by malcontents

For example, who was fighting for land in "Pradoville" before the PPP boys bought it and built big houses on it? Thats an issue deeply rooted in jealousy.

To the issue

Tell me which time the PPP unilaterally appointed their own elections chairman?

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 3:40:02 PM 
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You cannot justify one over the other, Guyana needs to get young, honest, educated politicians. Fresh blood.


That fella just demonstrated the mind of the people who voted for Granger.

Our fella, our thief.

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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10/4/17 3:49:27 PM 
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Not him alone, I have heard many say the same thing. Sometimes I truly have to go wtf am I hearing.

link CITYBOY Joined: Jul 11, 2017
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10/4/17 3:55:01 PM 
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Hola...Let me tell you about this fella...I am a nationalist..it dont matter who ruling...but it must be fair...we are in this mess because of CHEDDIE JAGAN...yes CHEDDIE JAGAN...
we are sitting around in Florida...Cheddie on the phone he is about to win election and become president...
He said there will be no retribution or vengeance taken....and we told him he was wrong...he should have had gone after the PNC for mismangement ,teefing.corruption,race riots etc...but the man said .."NOT UNDER HIS WATCH"".
Fast forward..the man dead and a bunch of yahoos hijack the party and its mandate...Janet J walked out of a minister's house after she saw what he claims his ministerial salary bought...the party was hijacked and the teefing was rampant.Janet could not had done nothing...she died and we know what happened..
PPP eventually lost and as nationalist it was my hope that Granger would had gone after those teefing buggers..but he has'nt...and the cycle will go on...
As a nationalist people need to get jail..throw away the keys and let them rot...you dont clean shit by merely throwing a carpet over it...the shit still remains...you got to clean the shit out...and Jagan and now Granger has not....NATIONALISM HAS FAILED...but you are a party card member..I doubt if you will understand that.
Adios
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link Ninetenjack Joined: Dec 10, 2002
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10/4/17 4:10:39 PM 
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It takes 1 term to get corrupt and 2 to get absolutely corrupt. I am so disappointed in the PPP, but then again I realize that this isn't the party of Jagan anymore it's just a bunch of tiefing yahoos. The amount of tiefing Jagdeo and company put pon Guyana made Burnham look like a choir boy.

From here on things will get interesting since this Oil thing filling everybody eye and they all licking their collective lips. The PPP will have 1 chance and 1 chance only to win the next election. If this oil thing take off look for mass immigration from the various islands of the Caribbean to Guyana, and if that happens the PPP are finished.

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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10/4/17 4:33:33 PM 
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Am sorry to say this but a lot of the population is the same. Dog eat dog mentality and do what it takes to get ahead. Morality and ethical behavior lacking on that mudflat.

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 4:49:05 PM 
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Who do you think is better for the country?

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/4/17 5:09:58 PM 
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Who do you think is better for the country?


Are you even suggesting that the present PPP might be good for Guyana?

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 5:28:31 PM 
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Are you even suggesting that the present PPP might be good for Guyana?


What has the current govt achieved other than closing sugar factories and putting people out of work?

They have very let the most dangerous man in Guyana walk out of prison.

They have also scuttled the amaila falls project.

Not a rhetorical question, I would like to know.

But wait, you are employed by govt sectors no? at least u get wuk bai

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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10/4/17 5:31:50 PM 
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How did the head of SWAT got carjacked n gun taken away from him?0 lol

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/4/17 5:35:33 PM 
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no i have been doing the one job i got from graduation and still on it to now....i do not need wuk

now that that is out of the way

i would like you to give us a balance of the achievements of the PPP over the past 23 years

balance = good + corrupt

we can roll from there if you care

let me start with one that you;ve asked..

Let's start with Sugar + Skeldon for the PPP 23 years

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 5:35:35 PM 
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How did the head of SWAT got carjacked n gun taken away from him?


Do you remember the police they had tailing brassington, crashed his car and if I remember right killed someone during the operation

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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10/4/17 5:36:21 PM 
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Yep

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 5:44:27 PM 
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The root of the issue with skeldon factory is a lack of people having the technical knowledge and experience to operate a more modern factory

Whats your theory, the PPP's plan was to build a inoperable factory?

I shouldnt have to explain the sugar problem to you.

The PPP had the vision of laying fiber cable so Guyana can have a viable ICT sector, a whole lot of young people have employment at the various call centers because of those cables.

What about the stadium where you get to watch your cricket? I remember a lot of naysayers criticizing before that project. How is it now?

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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10/4/17 5:47:36 PM 
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I am all open to listening to new views on the sugar factory story

it seems bizarre that that huge investment went the way it did

it was under the PPP

should there be some level of responsibility for it?

link steveo Joined: May 1, 2007
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10/4/17 5:48:48 PM 
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Competence and professionalism by the new govt lol lol

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