Any guess on who is Mueller's first target of the investigation?
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So who is getting arrested today?
In reply to black
Manafort then maybe Kushner..
Life would never be the same in 5th Avenue..
Ivanka would need some support..
In reply to bravos
Flyn
In reply to camos
Yes boi dan,I fughet he oui!! So many criminals!!
In reply to bravos
I think Manafort is first on the list, he was already given notice.
In reply to black
A fucking soap opera of epic proportions!
In reply to bravos
A fucking soap opera of epic proportions!
General Hospital!!!
Can't wait for Dr Trump's turn under questioning.
In reply to black
The facter will answer questions with questions!!
I can just see him now,"should I have" "would you have"!!
In reply to black
I see you are getting excited. The charges are for failure to file foreign agent filings. Nothing to harm the presidency of Donald Trump.
On the other hand Clinton and Democrats are in big trouble. Mueller has started looking into their illegal activities including possible bribery fro guess who? RUSSIA!
In reply to black
I say Nitro. He has either been lying or raising false flags throughout this whole episode.
In reply to nitro
I see you are getting excited. The charges are for failure to file foreign agent filings. Nothing to harm the presidency of Donald Trump
That is what experienced prosecutors do, they go after people on other charges, in order to get to their objectives.
Total bullshit.
In reply to black
Bye bye Mueller! As longs as Republicans back the President, Trump can now fire him!
Foxnews reports:
This weeks bombshell that a controversial anti-Trump dossier was funded by the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign has Republicans asking to what extent the FBI which received some of the findings and briefly agreed to pay the same researcher to gather intelligence on Trump and Russia used the politically connected material.
Hill investigators also are looking into a Russian firms uranium deal that was approved by the Obama administration in 2010 despite reports that the FBI then led by Mueller had evidence of bribery involving a subsidiary of that firm.
Critics question whether Muellers own ties to the bureau as well as fired FBI director James Comey now render him compromised as he investigates allegations of Russian meddling and collusion with Trump officials in the 2016 race.
In reply to bravos
Manafort then maybe Kushner..
Life would never be the same in 5th Avenue..
Ivankawould need some support..
If it's Kushner, She would have no problem getting some stiff support.
The way Donald is behaving today - my bet it will be Trump Jr.
In reply to TheTrail
A casket carries a stiff u know
In reply to TheTrail
A casket carries a stiff u know
In reply to TheTrail
Lol so many possible angles and twists..but I'm all for her getting the stiff support,I'm certain many members of the black 1% community would be readily available to assist in that regard,and I know Kanye is already a friend of the family and very experienced in delivering such stiff support to other upstanding members of the white female elite,go Kanye it's yuh birthday!!.
In reply to bravos
Michael 'Lock her up' Flynn
In reply to birdseye
Long time!
In reply to nitro
Bye bye Mueller! As longs as Republicans back the President, Trump can now fire him
I'm going to tell you this for the last time, if Mueller goes away, the investigation does not stop.
Trump cannot fire Mueller in the midst of indictments being handed down, he will be impeached, immediately.
In reply to Oilah
In reply to black
Who is going to impeach him? Democrats?
In reply to nitro
Dude, politics only goes so far, once the evidence start to mount up, it's time to do their constitutional duties.
In reply to nitro
In reply to nitro
Hill investigators also are looking into a Russian firms uranium deal that was approved by the Obama administration in 2010 despite reports that the FBI then led by Mueller had evidence of bribery involving a subsidiary of that firm.
Critics question whether Muellers own ties to the bureau as well as fired FBI director James Comey now render him compromised as he investigates allegations of Russian meddling and collusion with Trump officials in the 2016 race.
It's all a big distraction. Don't believe the hype.
The Big Fish
probably a 6 count charge against Manafort.
In reply to camos
Correct. Manafort holds the keys to this investigation.
In reply to black
money laundering and being unregistered agent of a foreign government among the charges.
In reply to camos
We are awaiting a Trump tweet.
In reply to black
I am waiting for the news!
BREAKING: Former Trump campaign chairman (who has reportedly been advising Trump as recently as May) Paul Manafort has been indicted. Manafort's protege Rick Gates has also been indicted.
In reply to Runs
This is a classic case of people using their political influences to enrich themselves.
In reply to black
Was the plan from inception
In reply to Runs
will Manafort now help to sink Flyn?
In reply to camos
Cooperating could take a few years off his sentence.
Damn ....treason?
Mueller Hits Manafort, Gates With 12 Charges, Including Conspiracy Against the U.S.
That is a very serious charge no one saw it coming
In reply to Runs
Wow that can only lead to or be because of a main principal,and we all know who that is...
Manafort certainly wasn't running..
Perspective.
Trump is done..
Laundered 75m dayummmm
In reply to Runs
Damn ....treason?
Mueller Hits Manafort, Gates With 12 Charges, Including Conspiracy Against the U.S.
That is a very serious charge no one saw it coming
Holy shit!!! Are you serious?
fake news, fake investigation!
In reply to camos
Nitro gone by de courthouse ah wah?? Whe he??
In reply to bravos
In reply to black
Trump cyar go..so he sen him..
"Paul is a great guy"
In reply to bravos
So is Mike.
Manafort and his associate facing stiff prison times.
Other charges against Manafort and Gates include money laundering, being an unregistered foreign agent and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.
Flynn also failed to register as a foreign agent.
They are falling like fleas
BREAKING: George Papadopolous, a former adviser to President Trumps campaign, pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents questioning him as part of the Russia probe, according to a case that was unsealed moments after ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was indicted on 12 charges.
In reply to Runs
not registering as a foreign agent is not so big,but you can bet the person doing that has hid the income received for doing so, so tax fraud and money laundering tend to follow.
In reply to camos
not registering as a foreign agent is not so big
The reason for not registering as a foreign agent, usually is to conceal serious crimes.
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Have a read
In reply to Runs
The thing about lying is, you don't know what the prosecutors know. I suspect that Trump Jr and Jared are going to face the same problem.
In reply to Dukes
The reason for not registering as a foreign agent, usually is to conceal serious crimes
Exactly.
In reply to black
As i said charges for not filing as a foreign agent.
How does that impact The Donald?
This is BIG
BREAKING: A guilty plea: Court papers say Papadopoulos lied to the FBI about his relationships with foreign nationals who had close ties to Russian government. He even once met with Putin's niece.
In reply to nitro
As i said charges for not filing as a foreign agent.
How does that impact The Donald?
Give it time, don't be such of a hurry.
In reply to nitro
It means my friend that him and the rest will be investigated for potential financial wrongdoings also. Do you recall his numerous bankruptcies etc? Also his son in laws?
Blame Sessions and Rosenstein
In reply to nitro
well he has one guy's balls in a vice,how much this guy is going to cover up now!
In reply to camos
You are assuming Trump did something bad.
Nothing on Trump!
In reply to nitro
Just be smart mate and say..."nothing on Trump yet."
If the matter takes a 180 degree turn you will still be correct.
In reply to black
NOTHING in the indictment mentions anything about Russian collusion.
Mueller cant get to spend all of that money with nothing to show.
The White House and Mueller maybe meeting to close this investigation amicably now.
In reply to Courtesy
That is no fun!
I am going for a big six, not a push to long on!
In reply to nitro
There is a possibility of getting bowled thru the gate mate when your are slogging.
Good bowlers set up batsmen.
Mate, trust me this indictment can be a problem for your boss.
Read the tea leaves mate...
In reply to nitro
Mueller cant get to spend all of that money with nothing to show.
How much money was spent on Benghazi and what did they have to show?
The White House and Mueller maybe meeting to close this investigation amicably now.
Speculation.
In reply to Courtesy
I know you are a bright man so i will listen.
The charges against Manafort is prior to him being on the Trump campaign, has nothing to do with colluding with Russia not even that Don Jr meeting.
Cant see how it is a problem.
In reply to nitro
Let's assume you are correct above.
What about George Papadopoulos?
Hedge now, mate. Please say "yet"...this is a fact.
In reply to nitro
I know you are a bright man so i will listen.
The charges against Manafort is prior to him being on the Trump campaign, has nothing to do with colluding with Russia not even that Don Jr meeting.
They went after President Clinton for one thing and found another...
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Ex-Trump Aide Admits He Tried to Coordinate With Russians During Campaign
U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, tasked with pursuing collusion between Donald Trumps presidential campaign and Russia, just planted the first stake.
Prosecutors on Muellers team revealed Monday that a foreign policy adviser on Trumps campaign, George Papadopoulos, pursued Russias help in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign and sought to open communication lines to the Kremlin. Papadopoulos worked with an international professor who promised compromising information from Russia about Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. He also met with a Russian woman he believed could broker a meeting between the campaign and Russian officials.
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He then lied about the timing and content of those interactions to agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. On October 5, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying in a sealed document that was made public Monday in Washington D.C. Ominously for the White House, Papadopoulos is cooperating with the investigation.
Papadopouloss plea was unexpected on a day when Muellers charges were unsealed against Paul Manafort, a former Trump campaign manager, and Manaforts onetime deputy Rick Gates, accusing them of money laundering, tax crimes and conspiracy.
Read more: Your Guide to Understanding the Trump-Russia Saga
The question now is who else in Trumps campaign may have aided that effort or been aware of it. The court documents referenced an unidentified campaign supervisor, and a second campaign official who nixed Papadopouloss idea of setting up a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
In a statement of the offense, prosecutors describe how Papadopoulos held himself out to be conduit between the Trump campaign and high-level Russian officials, including Putin. Papadopoulos was one of five foreign policy advisers to the Trump campaign.
An unidentified London professor who had made contact with Papadopoulos in 2016 claimed to have dirt on Clinton in the form of thousands of emails, according to the court filing. The professor was said to have substantial connections to Russian government officials.
Papadopoulos met with the professor in London around March 21, 2016, prosecutors said. The professor brought with him a female Russian national introduced to Papadopoulos as a relative of Putin.
Ten days later, the indictment said, Papadopoulos attended a national security meeting that included Trump. When introduced at the meeting, Papadopoulos said he had connections he could use to arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin, it said.
That unnamed Russian national began communicating with Papadopoulos after the meeting. As mentioned we are all very excited by the possibility of a good relationship with Mr. Trump, she wrote in an April 2016 email disclosed by prosecutors. The Russian Federation would love to welcome him once his candidature would be officially announced.
Also around that time, prosecutors said, Papadopoulos emailed a high-ranking official of the Trump campaign to discuss Russias interest in hosting Mr. Trump. Have been receiving a lot of calls over the last month about Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right.
Days later, Papadopoulos thanked the professor for his critical help in arranging a meeting between campaign aides and the Russian government, saying, Its history making if it happens, according to prosecutors.
Papadopoulos was arrested after arriving at Dulles International Airport on July 27, 2017, according to the court filing. The day before, FBI agents executed a no-knock search warrant on Manaforts Virginia home, in which they secured files stored on Manaforts computer.
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In reply to Courtesy
Nothing yet.
I have a gut feeling this investigation will be called off soon.
In reply to TheTrail
Are you surprised?
Any investigation of the Clintons will reveal a BIG list of illegal activities.
In reply to Runs
So how is that any different than Clinton and Democrats paying millions to outsiders for dirt on Trump?
In reply to nitro
I have a gut feeling this investigation will be called off soon.
Ok mate...respect.
In reply to nitro
Who were the outsiders? Allies or enemies?
In reply to nitro
One was used to subvert the election process, with the aid of a foreign Government, through hacking, illegal ads, Wikileaks, etc.
The other was used to gain information on illegal activities, your candidate might have conducted. If there were not any illegal activities, then he would not have anything to worry about.
Summary: One was working with a foreign Government, the other was working with a foreign entity, not linked to the Russian Government.
In reply to nitro
Intent is going to be key here. Were Fusion GPS working to subvert the election or to dig up dirt on a candidate?
I'm sure my lawyer buddies can back me up on this.
In reply to black
Ok Mr Lawyer.
Can Trump pardon the three dudes?
In reply to nitro
Yes, but Mueller has a backup plan.
He will turn it over to the NY Attorney General, that is where the Trump operation is based.
Trump cannot pardon anyone on State charges.
In reply to Runs
Wow!!
Nitro
In Trinidad we would say "trump spit in he mout ah wah"
Like he do more than that! The current charges are seconds,bonus points for Mueller,and bonus points he can further use for the bigger picture,and you keep ignoring runs' post about that guy that already flipped and plead guilty for a conditional slap on the wrist when that time comes..
************popcorn..
In reply to bravos
3 with 1 blow all charged with multiple felony counts, least jail time is 5 yrs and some carry max of 20 yrs.
Campaign Adviser is singing.
In reply to Runs
from what we know the same charges can be filed on Flynn.
In reply to camos
True
Mueller does not need to go after Manafort for crimes that might implicate Trumpnot yet, at least. On Monday, he moved to take down two crooks for predictable financial crimes unrelated to Trump and followed that up with a shocking revelation that the investigation has uncovered evidence of attempted collusion between a member of the Trump campaign and the Russian government. In other words, he already has a lead on collusion; now he needs to flip the most flippable major players to get at the big fishincluding, perhaps, the biggest fish of all.
In reply to Runs
If this Papadopoulos guy don't start singing, Mueller is going to max him out.
In reply to black
Listen good - four more arrests coming up shortly.
In reply to black and Runs
So what's in the news today boys?
In reply to Chrissy
Damn
In reply to SnoopDog
Not much, just a few people in shackles.
In reply to Chrissy
Nitro call yuh from by de court house ah wah!?
In reply to Runs
Man this is better than any fictional mini series drama..
Who say Kushner!?
In reply to Chrissy
Thank you Prof, 4 persons got saved from gaol!
Oh by the way, the Podesta folks, you know Clinton campaign connection are also linked to Manafort!
In reply to SnoopDog
Sarah spinning like Bishoo bro
In reply to bravos
Him and Flynn for failing to disclose info on their security clearance forms for one
In reply to bravos
This is Soaps on steriods, not since my favorite show 24 ended have I watched tv so much
In reply to Runs
In reply to nitro
Reverse goatmout doh work with us indictments..gotta give them that,God bless America!!
In reply to Runs
The RATINGS are gonne be YUGE!!
In reply to bravos
Yuge and Bigly, yaah yaah we are seeing lotsa activity about Rushya. Some people are saying its a lot more than before, could be so or maybe not so. We will see.
Rushya we love you.
In reply to Runs
In reply to Runs
That Rushya thing..
In reply to black
#MAGA! Morons Are Getting Arrested.
In reply to Runs
Trump boasts his impeachment will have highest TV ratings, ever.
In reply to SnoopDog
In reply to SnoopDog
lolol
for once i agree!
In reply to black
Sessions the AG was in meeting with Campaign staffer and told about them having thousands of HC emails in April, and never disclosed. It was done till in June. He needs to be questioned also. Not forgetting DT
In reply to Runs
Why this Papadopoulos guy? He was just a low level guy.
Trump deliberately sent this low level person to meet with the Russians so that he would not arouse suspicion. Mueller knew this and might have had him wiretapped. I think Mueller has a trick up his sleeves.
In reply to nitro
I see that You love indulging in wishful Thinking .Not to worry , Reality will soon come .
Nitro here's Snuffalofogus charge sheet..
'collusion'
noun
Definition:
national before he joined the Campaign and that their communications consisted of emails such
as, '"Hi , how are you?"' In truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the
2
Case 1:17-cr-00182-RDM *SEALED* Document 19 Filed 10/05/17 Page 3 of 14
female Russian national on or about March 24, 2016, after he had become an adviser to the
Campaign; he believed that she had connections to Russian government officials; and he sought
to use her Russian connections over a period of months in an effort to arrange a meeting between
the Campaign and Russian government officials.
Nitro read that document if you brave..
In reply to bravos
a factual basis for my guilty plea to the charge against me. It does not include all ofthe facts
known to me regarding this offense. I make this statement knowingly and voluntarily and
because I am, in fact, guilty ofthe crime charged. No threats have been made to me nor am I
under the influence of anything that could impede my ability to understand this Statement ofthe
Offense fully.
I have read every word ofthis Statement of the Offense, or have had it read to me.
Pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 11 , after consulting with my attorney, I agree
and stipulate to this Statement ofthe Offense, and declare under penalty of perjury that it is true
and correct.
Pupadapoleus signed it
Carter Page
"It may have come up, yeah," Page told MSNBC's Chris Hayes when asked whether he may have exchanged emails with George Papadopoulos and whether the two discussed Russia.
In reply to powen001
Sarah Huckabee Sanders should be locked up for claiming to be a Christian yet walking up to that podium everyday with new bs.
In reply to Dan_De_Lyan
Jennings the CNN commentator was livid that Page chose to go on MSNBC
In reply to Runs
The guy is not very smart, he appeared on that show before and didn't handle himself well. You would think his lawyer would advise him against it.
In reply to POINT
Clinton and the Podesta family going to jail bro.
In reply to nitro
Mate, you have your strengths here despite what other persons say and think about you.
In reply to nitro
You still don't think the Clinton story is a big distraction? This is nothing but an attempt to discredit the special counsel as he moves closer to the Whitehouse.
This story disappeared after the election and now revived to provide cover for Trump.
All going down for at the very least money laundering from Big fish down
In reply to Runs
BUMP!!!
Keep it going man ... you run outa steam?
In reply to Kay
Law enforcement has to take its course
In reply to Runs
After watching some of the coverages last night, this Papadopoulos guy is not facing any serious prison time, is there a strategy behind this?
Maybe they don't have much to link him to others?
In reply to black
You fell off perspective that's why,he is not facing any real time because he got a deal,so with that in mind currently his sentence can range from nil to six months,BUT ONLY WITH THE DEAL.
The maximum sentence for that offence is 5 years,so clearly they dangled that in front of him..
Sometimes legal language is so complicated we fail to see the simplicity other times.
In reply to bravos
You fell off perspective that's why,he is not facing any real time because he got a deal,so with that in mind currently his sentence can range from nil to six months,BUT ONLY WITH THE DEAL
Yes, I know how it works, I've been saying that all along but he should have gotten the regular sentence, (with the possibility a reduced sentence) conditional on his cooperation.
If he is only given 6 months up front, why should he cooperate?
In reply to black
Pal he hasn't been sentenced,the final sentence depends on his end of the bargain..that's the point.
And the lying to the FBI has a 5 year max sentence..that;s plenty leverage from a lie..
If we all had to account for our lies we would be fucked..
In reply to bravos
If the indictment says 6 months they cannot go back and change it.
In reply to black
Possibility, it is at Judges discretion. He was tossed a bone.
In reply to Runs
Possibility, it is at Judges discretion. He was tossed a bone
The indictment should layout everything, including the full sentence, not the reduced sentence.
In reply to black
Ok Judge
In reply to Runs
We need to get Walco in here.
In reply to bravos
That's why it's an 'information' and not an indictment black,the whole basis of it is the cooperation and he already cooperated..
You muddling up facts here..
A trucker in NY..
In reply to bravos
In reply to bravos
No, this guy was indicted.
In reply to black
In reply to black
Brother I'm not arguing ok,simple facts,I only deal with facts...it's an 'information' not an indictment as he has cooperated and plead guilty..
Both of Jack Warner's sons are in a similar situation awaiting sentencing till the case with Jack is satisfied,they can throw the book at you if you don't go through with it..and in any case the statements have already been made and in the USA that's hard evidence.
Next witness!!
In reply to birdseye
Lol he may be executed..
In reply to birdseye
W
Yes, this whole process is overseen by a judge, it is an agreed to, guideline.
I suppose it can be changed, with new information but not because you decided the sentence was not enough.
--- being indicted does not necessarily mean conviction the judge /jury can decide that the prosecutor is out of his mind and refuse to convict
No shit!!! But, the FBI has over a 80% conviction rate. That means they only bring cases that are sure is going to get a conviction.
In reply to bravos
He pled guilty and agreed to cooperate with the prosecution but he was charged back in July.
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