The Independent Voice of West Indies Cricket

Final standings!

voiceofreason 4/22/24, 12:13:27 AM
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debut: 1/20/04
88,349 runs

Guyana Harpy Eagles - 103.8
Windward Islands Volcanoes - 98.2
Leeward Islands Hurricanes - 94.0
Barbados Pride - 92.8
TT Red Force - 92.0
West Indies Academy - 71.6
Jamaica Scorpions - 59.4
Combined Campuses and Colleges - 30.2

Not a bad pay check 250k for winners and 100 k for the runnerup team.
Brerzerk 4/22/24, 12:20:39 AM
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debut: 3/16/21
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Not a bad paycheck? How much did Ernest Hilaire receive as bonus for running a failing and unprofitable entity almost 10 yrs ago? The acceptance of malfeasance and hypocrisy is stunning!!
voiceofreason 4/22/24, 12:39:25 AM
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debut: 1/20/04
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Why are we focusing on the past? Windwards administration is in charge now and West indies players getting paid better and their relationship with WIPA is the best it has ever been. Great days ahead for west indies cricket.
imusic 4/22/24, 12:44:18 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In what currency is the prize money?
voiceofreason 4/22/24, 12:45:41 AM
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debut: 1/20/04
88,349 runs

Suggestions for the 4 day tournament:

1 A longer season if possible have 14 games , each team playing each other twice If this is not possible let the top 4 play Semis and the finalists play for a Cup and a bonus prize.

2 Would like to see more games in venues that will attract crowds. There are a lot of venues across the Caribbean that people want to see cricket. Here are a few :

Grove park, Nevis.
Carib Lumber park St.Maarten
Arnos vale St,Vincent
Windsor park, Dominica.
Shaw park, Tobago.

3 Bowling points should not be awarded based on how many wickets you take but how much you dismiss the opposition for.

4 Strengthen CCC and WIA with 1 senior player.

5 Get some help for Jamaica-Some form of plan must be put forward by the CWI in consultation with the JCA and their stakeholders.
voiceofreason 4/22/24, 12:46:54 AM
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debut: 1/20/04
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In reply to imusic

Us Dollars. Good change. I believe this is in addition to their player fees and of course some of the players have retainer contracts and already get paid on a monthly basis. The report did not say what the other teams received.
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doosra 4/22/24, 1:46:04 AM
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debut: 5/26/04
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it is a good change...and yes people will come and say it's chump change compared to t20...and yes it is, but not every player makes it big in t20...

i would guess that the bottom 10-20% of the players in CPL do not earn as much as the winners and runners up players in this tournament when you factor in match fees, central contracts, per diems, and central contracts

match fees are going up this year I think as well
imusic 4/22/24, 2:04:02 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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Thanks vor

Now….theres a squad of 15. Plus management (coaches, trainers, analysts etc)

Let’s say minimum 20 people. Likely more. But if it’s 20 and the amount is evenly shared, we looking at about US$12k per person.

US$12K per person seems a good payday.

But that’s US$12k for essentially 2 months “work”

7 matches. 4 days per match. Plus travel. Plus training camps.

And that’s only if you win the tournament.

It’s significantly less the lower you finish.

In today’s world of pro team sports…..that’s a pittance. Even for a board that always seems to cry “broke” and appears to be forever in beggar mode.
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voiceofreason 4/22/24, 2:08:11 AM
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debut: 1/20/04
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Well i doubt everyone would get paid evenly across the board but this is in addition to match fees and retainer contract for those on retainer with their franchises.
doosra 4/22/24, 3:28:54 AM
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debut: 5/26/04
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it would be 12k + 7 matches * 1600 per match = 11,600 (everyone gets this, might be less for 12th and 13th man) + say 2 months of central contract (2 * 2500ish = 5000) = 29k'ish for 2 months work is not too bad...

plus those on contracts will get their 2500ish for the next 10 months = 25k

+ they get to play regional LO which is another 10k ish + prize money


that's about 60 - 70k a year for a regional regular minimum...of course not everyone gets that prize money but some will top up with cpl etc

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for those who make it to intl and gain central contracts with CWI, that goes up by at least 2 - 3 times / year

there is no competition with t20s for sure...but at minimum it is not the worse thing since slice bread
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Brerzerk 4/22/24, 6:18:12 AM
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debut: 3/16/21
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In reply to voiceofreason

Fair enough. Don't have to dwell on it but should never forget it nor the perspective I highlighted. Almost a decade after a controversial CEO collected a US250G or so bonus s full team is getting the same for a championship win. The yr he got that bonus I doubt the winning team got US$×G
doosra 4/22/24, 12:56:30 PM
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debut: 5/26/04
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isn't that standard practice in the corporate world, whether it is morally right, wrong, neutral?
Chrissy 4/22/24, 1:30:31 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
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Yuh revo got close.
Chrissy 4/22/24, 1:32:50 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
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Hope dem pay di players directly because…..lol
Drapsey 4/22/24, 2:43:49 PM
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debut: 12/26/07
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isn't that standard practice in the corporate world, whether it is morally right, wrong, neutral?

Here we're talking about $250,000 for the entire team. And let's not forget that the supporting staff must get a cut.

This while the $250,00 bonus in discussion was 'earned' by an individual.
doosra 4/22/24, 2:54:18 PM
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debut: 5/26/04
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isn't it normal practice to compensate CEOs this way ...and this regardless of what others under their care earn?

that is what I am getting at if it wasn't clear.
granite 4/22/24, 3:13:49 PM
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debut: 11/1/13
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IPL will cover everything.lol
InHindsight 4/22/24, 7:20:41 PM
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debut: 2/24/07
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In reply to doosra

It didn't take much to shut him up right?


Anyway

I'd love for VORs suggestion of a semi and final become reality though.

Another is for a uniformity of grassroots tournaments in each territory. That should include coaching standardization and minimum facilities and playing conditions throughout

The latter could be incentivized
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XDFIX 4/22/24, 8:22:46 PM
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debut: 3/2/03
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In reply to Drapsey

Here we're talking about $250,000 for the entire team. And let's not forget that the supporting staff must get a cut.


Windies must do better - get sponsorship and promote the game! There is money out there waiting to happen!
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Brerzerk 4/22/24, 11:11:30 PM
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debut: 3/16/21
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It is not and has never been standard practice to pay bonus to leaders of failing institutions unless you count
US banks taking the bailout money from its government/ citizens and paying bonuses. Was the bonus for policies instituted that would bear future fruits, because the entity was financially successful or because of malfeasance? You decide then decide if it was a moral reason and if immorality should be ignored, forgotten or swept under the rug.
By the way Rousseau dead and gone and Cameron is yet to answer if he was collecting pay contrary to CWI's constitution
doosra 4/22/24, 11:18:27 PM
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It is not and has never been standard practice to pay bonus to leaders of failing institutions unless you count


in the USA we see this all the time
Brerzerk 4/23/24, 2:28:13 AM
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Yuh saying The Caribbean should adopt every bad thing from Murca, guns not enough? I stand by my statement that it is not common in The US and many other places for institutions losing money pay large bonuses to CEO’s. Most boards and shareholders won’t allow that