What is the fascination with Oshane Thimas?

Any one who has a little knowledge of cricket would know this guy will never be an international player yet WI selectors continues to invest in him, when there are other players out there who can benefit from this opportunity

In reply to bird

never ...is a word I wont use...but

yeah..

been saying it since day one...and I mean Day one when he got that five fer...

raw pace does not impress me...accuracy and tactics against each batsman does.

Until Oshane learns to run properly, he will continue to have problems. He shud spend some time with a track & field coach

In reply to Maispwi

ANYONE bold enough to not see this BEFORE selecting him should be fired!
All these years and the lad aint take in the learning??

Who is really at fault here??

with so many coachable lads around chomping at the bit for a break...and some poor sap with authority still believes that raw pace trumps everything else...like the BASICS.

no please...

Wheel and come again with that

In reply to powen001

Not true my friend, what you said on day 1 after his best performance in WI colors was that he cannot speak (which was true, even after we saw clips of Bravo coaching him to do interview before that match). When Oshane started out he was a frighteningly quick bowler who could hit a line and length and also surprise with a vicious bouncer. His inability/refusal to maintain fitness and what seems a difficulty of learning and maintaining control has made him almost if not obsolete.

In reply to powen001

You are right, the blame should be placed at the feet of the selectors, I have posted two or three times saying Oshane is lifetime away from becoming an international cricketer, his presence in any WI representative team, shows that people who are in charge do not care how they spend resources, money or human, no explanation or logics are given (no accountability)

In reply to bird


Question is, what is your fascination with Oshane Thomas?

You certainly seem to have one.

In reply to Brerzerk

In addition to all that was his HUFFING and PUFFING

dont use selective and edited recall bro.

I remember quite well what I said.

HUFFING n PUFFING..

In reply to bird

accountability is a GOOD word

Oshane is talented, being able to hit the 90 mph mark puts u in the top 1% of bowlers, look around the caribbean we dont have a lot

he rightly is being criticized for not improving, but like angel there is clearly something there, angel took a while to get where he became a real threat, it was short lived but we won matches because of his pace

i have time for oshane but he needs to improve, not being a natural athlete and having the power is not easy but he needs to find a way to be consistent, u have shamar looking like the real deal and the likes of mcallister and phillip improving every season, time is gonna catch up with him unless he does something

In reply to conman

Not sure what a natural Athlete is.

This is his CHOSEN profession.

ANY and everyone with discipline applied can improve their fitness levels.

short of you telling me he is predisposed to some medical condition that makes it harder for him...then...I will suggest they move on.

Its not just the fitness...its his application of bowling sense when the batsman seems to figure out every blinking delivery you bowling...

ah mean...this aint rocket science...

Oshane is not ready.

In reply to powen001

im not excusing him

he just needs to work harder, angel is a good comparison to him, neither of these 2 are naturally gifted athletes, they have power and size but they have a harder time exerting that power, most fast bowlers have a talent for it, their body works to towards to and it looks like a natural extension, from run up to delivery, these 2 have more power than the average fast bowler but not the athleticism, i guess you can say the basics come harder to them, run up and bowl fast doesnt always click

he needs to get fitter i agree, but to discard somebody bowling 90 mph plus is not the way to go, WI cant afford that

In reply to conman

Is he actually even bowling at 90 mph CONSISTENTLY right now?? I highly doubt it. I really had high hopes for him when he first burst on to the scene. However, he has actually regressed!

In reply to powen001

Bro, I still remember Mr Deane telling me, I just spent some time Eyeing Gordon Greenidge.
One of the best openers in the world would ask none professionals whom he trusted for info on what he was doing wrong.
These players wanted to get better and find ways to improve.
Young Joseph from Guyana bowling is now broken down by all the international teams, it is up to his bowling coach to add and improve what he is doing

In reply to Drapsey

I can assure you, I do not have a fascination or dislike of Oshane, but! I do have disdained for the people who continue to select him, he looks awkward on the the cricket field, bowls garbage in the upper 80s for two or three overs, it's like playing with 10 men

Virtually any fast bowler throughout the history of the game with that sort of build, has invariably struggled with fitness and injury concerns. The body of a quick bowler needs to be supple and athletic, not muscular and heavy. The strength and power comes from the core, not a big pair of shoulders with extra layers of goat curry around the middle.

Fast bowling is VERY hard work. The miles you put into your legs are the training needed, not extra weights in the gym.

One of the issues that Thomas had some time ago was his approach to the crease. He used to look like a headless chicken, aimlessly wandering in toward the crease without evidence of any clear run up. Fortunately, this was remedied and his approach to the crease nowadays is much more balanced and straighter. However, he does not accelerate and fails to increase his stride pattern. If he can work on the acceleration as he reaches the delivery stride, his pace would increase.

In summary, Oshane Thomas has talent but he needs work. A lot of work.

In reply to powen001

eff yuh doan know what 'natural athlete' means den yuh shouldn' ah jine dis yah convo.
Look pon Mikey run up den look pan angel.....

Forget Oshane for a second,what was Hayden Walsh doing on that team,bowled 2 overs,leg spin wrist spinner.When will he be left alone for FC matches,he'll probably come good one day ,not soon though.

In reply to granite

yes i agree. oshane has a talent. he can bowl fast, very fast. i doh know what walsh does bring to the game other than dead slow legbreaks and good fielding. i doh even think walsh have a googly in his repertoire, something he shared with bishoo who eventually developed a googly but way too late(bishoo was also hampered by holder's inability to set a field for a spinner but if he had developed a googly, he could have taken more wickets caught behind, lbw or bowled taking holder's field out of the equation). whereas Samuel Badree didn't turn the ball much but was very quick through the air, off the pitch and had the googly that he could bowl at will. big part of the reason we won those two world cups. I think the selectors are trying to find a leggie like badree, which is why they are persisting with walsh. clearly its not working. you should pick your strongest bowlers regardless of what is or was your practice or established convention

In reply to 4REALQUICKS

look! I want to be wrong about this, I Feel Thomas is too broken to be fixed, how long is this supposed to be continued for?

In reply to Jumpstart

I really don't know why a googly is such a problem for bowlers who have reached international level.I remember growing up in San Fernando and playing school cricket,I bowled a ball with the action of a leg break and it turned like a googly,but tried as i want I couldn't bowl leg breaks on a good length,I couldn't control it.I mention this because for the googly the ball just rolls out the back of the hand whereas the leg break has to be spun with your finger,I spin it with my second finger,that is much more a difficult job than a googly so why is it a problem when it appears easier.Later on I met Harry Latchman a Jamaican who played for Middlesex,he was family to the Jamaican landlord I lived with,he thought i should continue by joining a club but I had given up at 24.
PS.I also spun the googly with my fourth finger so easy and the top spinner.

In reply to Brerzerk



well played HA HA HA HA HA HA

de only ting the two of them have in common is JAMAICA.

full blinking stop...

chalk an cheese apart

We all have been given a variety of talents, some have five talents, some three and others one,
the ones with five invested theirs, three did the same, and the ones with one buried theirs.
If a player wants to be the best he can be, the work must be done.
These guys are now being paid, how can you not put in the required hours to improve?

In reply to bird

He's a poor man's Tino.

In reply to bird

I would not give up on him just yet but that does not mean I support his inclusion for West Indies international teams, whether it be test, ODI, T20-Kiddie whack-it, "A" team or whatever. He needs a LOT of work.