The Independent Voice of West Indies Cricket

Message Board Archives

HEADLINE: ‘Common sense before book sense’ - Pollard questions rules again

 
CaribbeanCricket.com 2023-09-12 15:24:14 

After 11 consecutive overs of spin, and 14 overall, Trinbago Knight Riders still found themselves behind the over-rate in their Republic Bank Caribbean Premier League match against the Jamaica Tallawahs at the Brian Lara Cricket Academy in Tarouba on Saturday night.

As such, the home side were penalised with additional fielding restrictions in the final two overs when they bowled and while it did little to dampen the mood of the capacity crowd, it didn’t sit well with skipper Kieron Pollard.

Pollard would have already voiced his opinions on the new over-rate rules after receiving the first “red card” issued for a slow over-rate in their six-wicket victory over the St Kitts and Nevis Patriots at Warner Park earlier in the tournament.

“For me, the disappointing part was bowling 14 overs of spin in a cricket match (and still be penalised for a slow over-rate). One thing I’ve learned from the old people saying in Trinidad and Tobago is that common sense was made before book sense, and the logic of this rule makes me wonder how we are actually going to go forward with it,” said Pollard.

Read more at Trinidad Express


Full Story

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-12 15:50:37 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

when has anything in west indies cricket ever been run with common sense

 
Halliwell 2023-09-12 16:03:30 

In reply to Jumpstart

I’m a Polly fan and ‘everybody’ knows that
But

For me, the disappointing part was bowling 14 overs of spin in a cricket match (and still be penalised for a slow over-rate).

Surely Polly understand is about time you take and not what you bowl
That was confusing by the Mighty Pout
big grin

 
Discourse 2023-09-12 16:05:49 

In reply to Jumpstart

... West Indies cricket ever been run with common sense


That may be correct, but also isn't that an indictment on Polly seriously?

After 11 consecutive overs of spin, you still fall behind. This smacks of major time-wasting and may very well credit the reasoning behind the regulation.

 
Discourse 2023-09-12 16:08:41 

In reply to Halliwell

I’m a Polly fan and ‘everybody’ knows that
But

Lol...sometimes (sorry 'all times') you need to add some common sense to your reasoning. lol

 
Narper 2023-09-12 16:31:28 

In reply to Halliwell

The comms did say he takes too long with his "antics' before the finalize his field setting.

Pouty mus follow the rules like all other cappos in the tournament

 
Narper 2023-09-12 16:34:24 

In reply to Halliwell

BTW it seems Johnny B prefers to be off the field on the boundary lines than be on the field.

Isn't this the reason he had left to lead the Patriots ....he cant stand the Pouter big grin

 
Halliwell 2023-09-12 16:34:24 

In reply to Discourse & Narps

Exactly!
He needs to ask himself HOW he bowls 14 overs of spin so slowly lol

 
Barry 2023-09-12 16:36:05 

For the Caribbean diaspora, strategy is antics- neither book or common evil

 
Halliwell 2023-09-12 16:36:34 

In reply to Narper

Jonny B mixing chunes in the dressing room while dem man sweat out dey lol

 
Barry 2023-09-12 16:39:10 

I thought he was injured but rum knows best? confused

 
googley 2023-09-12 17:02:37 

More Poutying when he gets penalized

 
googley 2023-09-12 17:07:29 

In reply to Halliwell

Surely Polly understand is about time you take and not what you bowl


Common sense, ain't? lol

 
ray 2023-09-12 17:08:57 

man takes 5 mins to set field between deliveries

 
Barry 2023-09-12 17:15:51 

He is an intelligent man… intelligence takes time… cool

 
Narper 2023-09-12 17:18:45 

In reply to ray

More than that big grin big grin big grin


Doosra would tell yuh....the man like a traffic cop setting field

 
Halliwell 2023-09-12 17:20:12 

In reply to Barry

big grin

 
Barry 2023-09-12 17:36:23 

Some countries cannot produce captains because they must be guided by a momanager in the roti shop…s.a.d. sad

 
bobby 2023-09-12 18:30:29 

His antics are to blame. He should be a Bollywood actor. But has anyone noticed that his nasty so called gamesmanship is only reserved for when he plays in the Caribbean. He would not risk this crap in India.

 
Halliwell 2023-09-12 18:37:48 

In reply to bobby

He literally wore tape in India but why kill a good story

 
InHindsight 2023-09-12 18:39:30 

In reply to bobby



His antics are to blame. He should be a Bollywood actor. But has anyone noticed that his nasty so called gamesmanship is only reserved for when he plays in the Caribbean. He would not risk this crap in India


Shot Boi!!! Applause applause big grin

 
Barry 2023-09-12 19:13:55 

In reply to bobby

So he is afraid of people from India but prefers to bully slow West Indian over rates?
Evidence 1
Link Text

 
Barry 2023-09-12 19:15:53 

Evidence 2
Link Text

 
Barry 2023-09-12 19:20:06 

Everybody fights accept coward West Indians
Even in the diaspora they are afraid
They live Canada and England but don’t speak out
Except with their tiny islands while enjoying ice cream…
Colonial indoctrination
Link Text

 
Barry 2023-09-12 19:23:22 

No wonder they lose- no passion, managed by colonial mores… cool

 
PalsofMine 2023-09-12 22:23:27 

I do not have a problem with Pouty like certain other posters on this MB. However, I always question the man who does not complain about injustice until it is meted out to him.

 
imusic 2023-09-12 22:29:22 

In reply to PalsofMine

Do you question Jason Holder when he came out in support of Pollard’s stance on this matter?

 
Barry 2023-09-12 22:35:00 

In reply to imusic

lol

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-13 13:30:53 

In reply to iTito

Do you question Jason Holder when he came out in support of Pollard’s stance on this matter?


If Holder did in fact criticize the rule then he in all probability did it once and moved on.

Unlike that miserable oaf PullFraud who indulges in making an exhibition of himself on and off the field.

It's also surprises no one that Pullfraud is the number one serial offender of this very rule which he so vehemently dislikes.

 
Halliwell 2023-09-13 13:34:47 

In reply to SnoopDog

Hahahahahahahahaha

Allyuh good

Differentiator 1: ‘If Holder criticised’
Differentiator 2: ‘probably did it once’
Differentiator 3: ‘probably moved on’
Differentiator 4: ‘serial offender’

Entertainment galore ‘pan here’ lol lol lol

You sure limbo didn’t invent in Guyana?

 
Barry 2023-09-13 13:43:15 

In reply to Halliwell

lol lol lol lol razz

 
googley 2023-09-13 13:47:09 

In reply to Halliwell

Facts:

1. Holder criticized the rule once
2. Pouty got penalized twice and criticized both times

Whats so entertaining about that?

cool

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-13 13:48:05 

In reply to Halliwell

You sure limbo didn’t invent in Guyana?


Listen Bro. I ain't no F. Lee Bailey, but I would have guys like yuh fren iTito turning into a stuttering wet noodle if he was in the witness box. lol

 
Halliwell 2023-09-13 13:50:39 

In reply to googley

Facting fact:

It was a problem when Polly criticised once
But we have raised the bar it seems
big grin

Comedy Central big grin big grin

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-13 13:53:29 

In reply to Halliwell

Read the article. Pullfraud is still bitching and moaning about the rule.

Every other cappo has moved on.

Dollars to donuts he continues to get red cards during the Guyana leg of the tournament.

 
Halliwell 2023-09-13 13:55:55 

In reply to SnoopDog

Ok sah, big grin enjoy the rest of Wednesday lol

 
googley 2023-09-13 13:56:25 

In reply to SnoopDog

Dollars to donuts he continues to get red cards during the Guyana leg of the tournament.


he will blame the crowd!!! ...and the commentators...again!! lol lol lol

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-13 13:59:28 

In reply to googley

he will blame the crowd!!! ...and the commentators...again!


No wonder PooPoo is actively conspiring to have him sacked as cappo. lol

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-13 14:35:16 

In reply to SnoopDog

I am a fan of TKR, but Pollard's actions on the field occasionally embarrass me.

If we examine the circumstance...

Prior to the commencement of the tournament, modifications were made to the regulations, necessitating the players to have been duly notified of these alterations.
The League acknowledged that the duration of its games exceeded the desired length by around 30 minutes, and expressed the intention to establish a specific timeframe for completion.
Additionally, it was observed that penalties would be imposed on both the batting and bowling teams in the event of any violations of these rules.

The delay incident occurred within a game led by Pollard, resulting in the imposition of penalties.

Pollard expressed his opinions following the game and should potentially face financial penalties if the league had enforced disciplinary measures.

Why did he choose not to provide commentary when the aforementioned guidelines were announced?
Subsequently, Holder proceeded to provide his remarks. Only two players provided comments.

The persistence of the issue remains a subject of ongoing concern. Pollard and Holder, if both of you express dissatisfaction with the regulations dont play in the Tournament.

An additional pair of pacifiers has been requested.

 
Barry 2023-09-13 14:35:17 

In reply to Halliwell

You do realize by now, no? Not very smart…Examine the cadence of the writing— the persistence and naked slander…. rolleyes

 
Barry 2023-09-13 14:36:19 

Pollard is a great player and intelligent man who never lies razz

 
Barry 2023-09-13 14:37:48 

Financial penalties for telling the truth? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol if ah laugh ah smell alien breath…. razz

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-13 14:55:36 

In reply to Barry the itty bitty Tittie

Pollard is a great player and intelligent man who never lies


As your attending physician I strongly advise and recommend you take the entire bottle of these immediately. lol

Your mental health and safety is of paramount importance to me Bro. lol

 
Barry 2023-09-13 15:18:53 

In reply to SnoopDog

Thank you- you are so sweet big grin

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-13 15:20:14 

In reply to Barry the itty bitty Tittie

Thank you- you are so sweet


I usually hear that a lot from Trini women, but thank you nonetheless. lol

 
Barry 2023-09-13 15:28:03 

In reply to SnoopDog

You can be anything you choose- he/she/it… be guided accordingly wink

 
Barry 2023-09-13 15:28:57 

More than Oxford is here razz

 
Barry 2023-09-13 15:32:24 

Matthew 12:42



The queen of the south will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and look—something greater than Solomon is here.

big grin

 
googley 2023-09-13 16:05:23 

In reply to SnoopDog

lol lol lol

Now look what you did lol

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-13 16:08:55 

In reply to googley

Yeah I should have known that at some point he was going to start quoting from his little Bronze Age book of nancy stories. lol

 
Barry 2023-09-13 16:40:30 

In reply to SnoopDog

You are like an iron with those lead pipes inside you cool

 
darkprince39 2023-09-14 03:02:49 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Bruh, it is simply, just bowl your overs in the allotted time! If this was the IPL implementing those rules he would have said, F all. It is a good rule, it makes sure that captains and their teams play within the time! Support it, don’t denigrate it!

 
Barry 2023-09-14 06:06:43 

He has a right to speak out confused