In reply to Headley
Not just the political class

It is silly to think that in small territories there will be no conflict of interest

USA is rife with them. In the UK COI is ubiquitous but somehow in the Caribbean there must be none

Gill went school at Cawmere and has Grenadian parents. He is a good lad and the right choice. If Shallow is to be accused of anything it should be that he chose a bajan and a Cawmerian to boot. He could have done worse

The best way to mitigate COI is to declare them

cwi is a private entity

they can handpick their personnel

Manage By Association (MBA)

In reply to sudden



Although the region is rife with conflict of interest, it is remarkable people do not seem to understand what it is. They see it where it does not exist and do not see it when it is staring them in face.

CWI is not a government agency. It is not even a public corporation. It hires one of its own to manage some of its affairs. I am not a lawyer so perhaps the lawyers can tell me—what are the interests? In what ways are they in conflict?

In reply to doosra

In reply to JOJO

In this instance there is none as far as I am aware

Gill is not related to Shallow, is not managing an entity personally associated with Shallow or Shallow’s family or business, and Gill himself or his family doesn’t, as far as I know, have any business that competes or associates with management of the WI team or any attached personnel.

The only association I am aware of is that Gill and Shallow are loosely (some say Gill is bajan) from an political grouping known as the OEC and more specifically the Windward Islands cricket association.

In reply to sudden

you are using a very shallow definition of COI

I am not saying that this case is one of coi, i just don't know the details of his work internal to cwi and that of the team manager...just commenting on your take on coi

here's a case you might like to consider

a certain personnel was / is a director
that personnel might have been privy, party to the development of a jd, its approval etc
said personnel applied for the job, along with non-org members
said personnel got the job, his fellow directors may have had to approve it
said personnel is still a director of sorts

don't substitute names...just think about the case

In reply to doosra


Tailored to the persons, the relationship and organization in focus

Give us your take then

In reply to sudden



What is the matter with Rotondo?

There is a highway wide gap between frequent conflicts of interest and NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Rotondo's attempt above to set up a strawman argument is probably from force of habit.

The attempt to shift the discussion from frequent conflicts of interest to NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST is worthy of someone who spends too much time in the company of low IQ political hacks.

In reply to sudden

on the specific case, i noted a few days ago that team managers post at cwi were never advertised publicly as far as i know...and maybe its an historic practice to name someone, whether internal to cwi or from the cricket fraternity...

In reply to doosra

Even if that was / is the case how does that become a conflict of interest?

I note that Chrissy says that Gill should have resigned as a CWI director, why, where is the conflict?

In reply to sudden

which one, the director or the team manager?

I said it above and I repeat.

In reply to doosra

You are saying the management of the team was not advertised. I am asking how does that become a conflict of interest ?

Chrissy is saying Gill should have resigned his position in CWI to become manager. I am asking why, and where is the conflict?

In reply to sudden



you loss me there...i didn't say that...

In reply to doosra

Sorry I meant not advertised. I corrected it

In reply to sudden



you are better off asking Chrissy that

i gave you my take and then made a comment about my understanding of coi, then engaged you on coi with a scenario

In reply to sudden

i did not say it is a coi...i said i don't know the jd of the manager, his internal jd, etc...and noted the historic (my memory) precedent of naming managers as opposed to advertising openly for managers (that is not an endorsement of either approach by me, i'm just noting what i recall)

In reply to doosra

Now you have lost me too. Aren’t we discussing conflict of interest issues

In reply to sudden

see my previous response

i offered a scenario that is far more sophisticated, as a means to trigger a conversation re the interpretation of what constitutes coi...i concluded you offered a shallow interpretation previously [triggered by JOJO's remark that some people don't know what a coi is]

In reply to doosra

See mine

In reply to doosra

You haven’t offered much to debate and I don’t know the answers to what you ask

In reply to sudden

i was specifically responding to your description / interpretation of coi and suggested it is a 'shallow' interpretation...i offered a case study to think about

In reply to sudden

fair enough if you don't know...i didn't ask for an answer...i asked for a consideration in response to what i see as your 'shallow' take on coi

coi's can be complicated and they don't always start with after the fact...the scenario i gave you is a good one to think with, if you care to...

i am not here to teach btw..i have not a business certificate (tho these days paper qualification does not preclude one from talking about things)

In reply to doosra



Fair enough

How would a job description of team manager or any of your other musings be conflict of interests issues?