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HEADLINE: ICC chair advocates breaking up of West Indies cricket

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Besar 12/7/24, 11:21:25 AM
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Imagine that eh! now as individual territories we could look forward to a 5 Test Vincentian tour of Dominica; or even 5 ODI, 5 Test tour of Trinidad to Barbados or vice versa. India can tour Grenada for a 5 test series. Imagine Boxing Day Test between Guyana and Australia, while ST.Kitts hosts England and New Zealand in a triangular ODI series. How interesting that would be. We are on a forward move to conquering the world of cricket as individual territories.
velo 12/7/24, 11:55:08 AM
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In reply to Narper

ok i had to go back and see what you wrote and you are right guyana has the fastest growing emerging economy i misread what you wrote i thought you were saying something different .
b4u8me2 12/7/24, 12:56:38 PM
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I am trying my very best to understand his quoted statement. If he does not believe the WI is sustainable as a test cricketing nation due to financial implications then how will breaking up help? Isn't each WI territory poorer than a combination or territories? If he was so concerned about WI cricket why not change this ridiculous ICC model where only Australia, England and India benefit financially. The ICC has failed to be equitable and it almost feels like a plan to kill WI cricket. Other cricketing nations are suffering too financially because of the stupid model. The WI cannot even afford to have a reserve day for a final of their premier white ball competition. Spilt the money more evenly and allow us to develop our cricket. Otherwise just shut up.
Jeremy 12/7/24, 1:25:30 PM
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In reply to b4u8me2

West indies do not generate money for ICC, all the grounds in the caribbean are empty except for Guyana and T.rinidad

90% of the money are generated from India.
Narper 12/7/24, 1:58:16 PM
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In reply to velo

cool
openning 12/7/24, 2:53:35 PM
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In reply to b4u8me2

It almost feels like a plan to kill WI cricket.

With cricket now added to the Olympics, there will be no need for CWI.
Being insular will now be supporting your team and players.

Let us move on from CWI.
Jumpstart 12/7/24, 6:47:53 PM
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In reply to openning

Must be you to come up with some ignorant diatribe eh. When Barbados went to the commonwealth games, they ever make a knockout match? They got canned in Malaysia in 1997 and got beat down in the women’s tournament a few years ago.
openning 12/7/24, 9:33:15 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Barbados is an independent Island; it is time to be independent with cricket.

How many times did T&T make the Commonwealth game?

Don't be jealous, allyuh compete on the world stage at Golf, Soccer, T&F and other events.
Let Barbados earn some of its history..

Canada and the USA play cricket around the world.
Jumpstart 12/8/24, 12:55:58 AM
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In reply to openning

Trinidad went to the champions league and finished second, only beaten by a group of Aussie professionals of much superior experience and changed the way T20 cricket was played internationally, a style that lasted for well over a decade. Brett Lee was the difference between the two sides. Barbados and Guyana went once and both embarrassed the region
Onionman0 12/8/24, 1:50:30 AM
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It's more of a political statement...coming from white man.....having many grudges against a team comprising only black.....

ICC talks about developing cricket among associates...
What happened to Zimbabwe cricket...
What happened to Kenyan cricket....

They were performing well in ICC tournaments...reaching semis....how ICC helped them...

Instead... Bangladesh & Afghanistan were given test status...promoted by sub continent teams....backed by ICC....which is nothing but stooge of India....

As posters are happy to go alone.....ICC will be more than happy to vanquish another black cricket team....save it's coffer from making payment to full member.... distribute the savings among themselves and also fund UAE,Qatar,Oman, Saudi Arabia, IPL auction held there....

Who knows in coming years, few of them may become full member albeit at the cost of West Indies...

MY ONLY WISH!!!!! THAT HAPPENS AFTER MY DEATH!!!!
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Jumpstart 12/8/24, 12:31:22 PM
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In reply to Onionman0

Bangladesh

WHO WERE NOT READY AND ONLY UNTIL THIS YEAR LOOKED REMOTELY READY. Ehsan Mani, pakistani president of the icc in 2004 said it was a big mistake to give bangladesh test status. for decades while commies were bashing their presence at the highest level, they gave stupid excuses for the fact that they have been largely uncompetitive anywhere. By the time Sri Lanka were 24 years old as an icc full member, they already had an ICC world cup title and a test series win in England. Bangladesh can't even dream of either
hubert 12/8/24, 1:01:29 PM
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In reply to Onionman0

.ICC will be more than happy to vanquish another black cricket team....

So ICC gonna turn Jamaica , T&T, Bim ,.Guyana et al, WHITE ? What kinda statement is that ?????

Has the IOC, IAAF, FIFA done so ???
A Nation stands on its OWN in International Sports. Grow up Its, 2024 soon to be 2025 ///
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Jumpstart 12/8/24, 3:40:59 PM
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Has the IOC, IAAF, FIFA done so ???

i don't believe any of those organizations had a black team dominate the sport for 20 years. Even brazil, brazil dominated from 58-70, and then took 24 years to win world title. If brazil had won the 58, 62, 66, 70, 74 and 78 world cups, i'll tell what would have happened, they'd have banned musical instruments from the stadiums. i know this because they eventually did this soon after socrates and zico graced the stage.

when jamaica cleaned up the sprints in london 2012, what did dick pound say without an iota of evidence? dude.....you really need to take your head out the sand

have you ever heard anybody from india, pakistan or sri lanka suggesting the WI should disband
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powen001 12/8/24, 4:44:36 PM
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ok...he is outgoing..

kiss our collective arses on the way out.
Casper 12/8/24, 5:54:29 PM
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Here comes my Yardies friends again, many of whom I respect, always at the ready to break up things. They broke up the Federation, just because Big Island should have had more seats at the table. I guess, the same way of thinking has permeated all these years regarding West Indies cricket. Big Island should mean more players on the team.

As regarding "this vestige of colonialism", why don't we get rid of the name "West Indies"? And while we are at it, "Jamaica", "Barbados", etc - all vestiges of colonialism.

For West Indies cricket is one of the last things that bind us together - a people of common heritage whose common ancestors were separated and scattered across these islands and a continent.

We evolved with different insular cultures and practices, but we are still one common people and we embraced the colonial practice of cricket with unique vigour to ascended to the mountain top to become Kings of the game, notwithstanding the insularity that is always nibbling at the fabric that binds us. The same insularity that is likely now keeping us at the bottom.

What interesting about this moment, as we consider relieving ourselves of this vestige of colonialism, is that we are prepared to allow the thoughts of an outsider, not particularly one with our best interest at heart, to be the driver of our devolution - our own WI-exit.
4REALQUICKS 12/8/24, 6:39:29 PM
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To the outgoing gentleman, I would quote Dr. Evil...

"How about no?!!" lol
hawk 12/9/24, 1:37:22 AM
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well this was always on the cards, this was the plan from the very beginning and it is aimed at never allowing the West Indies to be a world-beating team again, and stupid us have aided and abetted them in this nonsense, none of these islands will be awarded test status and even if they are, they will be relegated to the garbage can of test cricket

we should be exploring options to merge into one nation, instead, we are championing the thoughts of a white man who cares nothing about the success of the Caribbean in any area whatsoever
what a stupid thing to say West Indies is the last vestige of colonialism
The West Indies cricket team fought against colonialism and showed the world that a "black nation" could be Champions
they defeated every lily-white team of their era but our selfish ways will always be our undoing

Sadly I believe it will break up, in 2028 we will celebrate 100 years since the first test against England, or maybe we won't our stupidity will determine that.
Curtis 12/9/24, 1:05:06 PM
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Let's use this recommendation as our Rally Cry!

Rally!
XDFIX 12/9/24, 2:23:30 PM
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Black people unite!
openning 12/9/24, 2:51:33 PM
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In reply to hubert

A Nation stands on its OWN in International Sports. Grow up Its, 2024 soon to be 2025 ///


Thank you sir.
Jumpstart 12/9/24, 3:33:37 PM
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In reply to hawk

I agree. West Indies right now are only two or three good batsmen away from a world beating team.
Jumpstart 12/9/24, 3:34:05 PM
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In reply to powen001

Perfect response.
XDFIX 12/9/24, 3:55:27 PM
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We are better off united than divided; wake up, black people!
openning 12/9/24, 3:55:28 PM
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In reply to hawk

we should be exploring options to merge into one nation, instead, we are championing the thoughts of a white man who cares nothing about the success of the Caribbean in any area whatsoever

I grew up during the federation, we cannot or should not be stagnant.
One only has to look at the Windwards and Leewards and see cricket's lack of growth and development.
I saw Barbados Vs Dominica this year and saw the number of players not given the opportunity.

With no CWI, Insularity will no longer be labelled when Barbados Pride compete.

Don't be afraid of change
We moved on from Federation; the same move can be made with CWI.
Larr Pullo 12/9/24, 3:58:11 PM
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It doesn't bother y'all that a white man telling y'all that you have nothing in common and should not unite? That doesn't give some of y'all pause and instead you're just agreeing with him?
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