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CricSham 12/11/24, 10:28:07 AM
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“Willow, Google's quantum computing chip, claims takes five minutes to solve a problem that would currently take the world's fastest super computers ten septillion – or 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years – to complete.”
How accurate is this assertion?
sgtdjones 12/11/24, 2:10:00 PM
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Quantum computing, as portrayed in your ​question, is indeed one of the most fascinating frontiers in modern science and technology.
The challenges and promises outlined paint a thorough picture of where we currently stand and where we might be heading.
Let me refine and reframe the discussion slightly to give it an even more human-like flow while maintaining the technical depth and nuance.

Quantum computing holds the potential to fundamentally transform the landscape of computing, utilizing the principles of quantum mechanics to achieve feats that are impossible for classical computers.
However, it’s worth emphasizing that this transformative potential remains, for now, a promise rather than a fully realized reality.
While companies like Google have made bold claims about their advancements, such as with the "Willow" quantum processor, these claims must be met with scientific rigour—independent verification and community scrutiny are essential before drawing definitive conclusions.

It’s important to recognize that quantum computing is still in its infancy.
Practical applications, though tantalizing, are in the exploratory phase, and scaling the technology to a level where it becomes ubiquitous is an enormous challenge.
One of the most significant obstacles in this field is managing the issue of heat in quantum chips.

Quantum processors operate at temperatures close to absolute zero—conditions necessary to preserve the fragile quantum states of superposition and entanglement.
Despite these extreme measures, heat generation is an inevitable byproduct of various inefficiencies, including imperfections in the system, energy dissipation, and external interference.
This heat, if unchecked, can disrupt quantum coherence, leading to computational errors that undermine the chip’s performance.

To combat this, researchers are developing advanced cooling techniques, such as cryogenic cooling systems, which can maintain the ultra-low temperatures required for stable operation.
Additionally, breakthroughs in thermal management and error-correction technologies are being pursued.
Quantum error correction, in particular, is a cornerstone of ongoing efforts—it aims to counteract the effects of decoherence and ensure reliable computations, even in the face of environmental noise and other disturbances.

Beyond thermal challenges, the issue of quantum coherence looms large.
Quantum states are inherently delicate and susceptible to decoherence, a phenomenon where external influences—like electromagnetic interference or slight temperature fluctuations—cause the quantum system to lose its "quantumness."
Once coherence is lost, the system can no longer perform meaningful quantum computations. Extending coherence times and developing robust error-correction algorithms are therefore critical goals for researchers.

Then there’s the matter of scalability.
While current prototypes demonstrate promising results with a few dozen qubits, building a fault-tolerant quantum computer with thousands—or even millions—of qubits is a monumental task.
Challenges such as qubit connectivity, error rates, and maintaining coherence across a larger system must all be addressed before quantum computers can achieve the versatility and reliability needed for widespread adoption.

Despite these hurdles, the field is advancing at a brisk pace.
Quantum computing is not just a theoretical pursuit; it’s a rapidly evolving discipline with tangible progress in hardware, software, and algorithm development.
The vision of quantum computers revolutionizing domains such as cryptography, optimization, material science, and artificial intelligence grows more feasible with each passing year.

As of now, there is no proven quantum computer that can run indefinitely without any errors.

Quantum computers currently have limited coherence times, which refers to the duration for which quantum states can be maintained before decohering and losing their quantum properties.
Coherence times can vary depending on the type of quantum system and the specific implementation, but they are typically on the order of microseconds to milliseconds for current quantum hardware.

Researchers are exploring various techniques to extend coherence times and improve the overall performance of quantum computers, such as error correction, noise reduction, and better control over quantum states.
As advancements in quantum technology continue to progress, the goal is to build fault-tolerant quantum computers that can run for extended periods of time with high accuracy and reliability.

While there are no quantum computers that can run indefinitely at this time, the quest for practical and scalable quantum computing continues, with the ultimate goal of harnessing the full potential of quantum mechanics for solving complex problems and advancing scientific discovery.

Returning to Google's "Willow" processor, the claim of its speed potentially outmatching traditional supercomputers is undoubtedly exciting.
Yet, it’s crucial to approach such breakthroughs with a balanced perspective.
Independent validation and further advancements are necessary to substantiate these claims and to fully assess their implications for the future of quantum computing.


Sarge

I saw one at Harvard and was told it only ran in milliseconds and then produced errors.
Drapsey 12/11/24, 3:28:42 PM
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Do you recall the movie, "Colossus: The Forbin Project"?

BTW, I only saw it once (during the mid 70s).
CricSham 12/11/24, 3:39:38 PM
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Thank you bro. I must confess I am out of my comfort zone here with quantum physics but man, am I fascinated! I don't really understand how it all works, but I am both frightened and hopeful.
googley 12/11/24, 6:08:15 PM
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I saw one at Harvard and was told it only ran in milliseconds and then produced errors.


You were on a field visit during high school? razz
Drapsey 12/11/24, 6:45:26 PM
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I, on the other hand, went to MIT.

I actually visited an acquaintance there during October 1979. wink
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CricSham 12/11/24, 7:15:54 PM
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If this is a pissing contest, then I am disqualified. I made it to community college.
sgtdjones 12/11/24, 8:10:13 PM
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I saw one at Harvard and was told it only ran in milliseconds and then produced errors.

See what happens when ya dhoti is too tight... it constricts blood flow, and you miss things.


No Googs

We designed some equipment for a research project, and the professor told me about a primitive quantum computer they were building.

This was 5 years ago; they were cooling the chips hoping to get to absolute zero.

− 320 °F
Liquid nitrogen has also been used as a method for cooling.

Absolute zero occurs at a temperature of 0 kelvin, or -273.15 degrees Celsius, or at -460 degrees Fahrenheit.


He showed the system to me.

I didn't attend Harvard as a student. A cousin did, but not as a student
He was then recruited to the Brigham and Women's Hospital, with a faculty position at Harvard Medical School,
and appointed the Surgical Director of the Heart Transplant & Assist Devices (2016-2019).

A cousin attended
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sgtdjones 12/11/24, 8:14:01 PM
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With the new telescopes floating above, it will deliver more discoveries.

Rubin Observatory is a new telescope under construction in Chile.

The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope will be the next big space telescope to launch following the deployment of the latest NASA telescope, which itself was the successor to the still-active Hubble telescope.
Expected to be launched in 2027.
Master_Blaster 12/12/24, 4:28:16 AM
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A lot if mumbo jombo or info that you can get from google or an AI tool like ChapGPT. Confused the fcuk our of me lol

The basic thing is for a Qubit to be in a super position, therefore, representing both positions at the same instant. To make it useful you must be able to do entaglement across distance - as soon as the state of a Qubit is discovered the entangled one instantly is in the opposite state - kinda like a coin showing heads and tails at the same instant, so you can see the use with at such incredible speed. 

However, a Qbit in itself is cannot really do any useful work unless it has error correction and then it becomes an Algorithmic Qubit - the good stuff

1000 Qubits means nothing but 10 Algorithmic Qbits can mean a lot and every additional Algorithmic Qubit doubles the performance of a QPU.

And ohhh there are Quantum solutions that do not need absolute zero to fuction.
sgtdjones 12/12/24, 5:03:18 AM
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I do not have any AI program; they are not reliable.
It's only what the programmer wrote, very limited.
It cannot show emotions or think beyond its parameters that were written in its software.

Sounds like you're interested/curious about quantum computing and the concept of algorithmic qubits!
Algorithmic qubits, also known as logical qubits, are qubits that have error correction codes applied to them to make them more reliable and stable for computations.
It's true that while a large number of raw qubits may not be as powerful, scaling up is a problem.
A smaller number of algorithmic qubits can significantly enhance the performance of a quantum processing unit (QPU).

Furthermore, there are emerging quantum solutions that do not require operations at absolute zero temperatures, but they possess limitations.
Many applications will likely involve hybrid systems, where classical and quantum computing work together.
Becoming a quantum programmer is no small feat, as it requires a solid foundation in mathematics and physics, in addition to programming skills.
Quantum computing materials are typically authored by experts from various fields, such as mathematics, physics, and computer science, who contribute their knowledge to advance theoretical research in this cutting-edge domain.
Manipulating nature at the quantum level poses unique challenges and demands a different paradigm of algorithms tailored for specific purposes. As quantum computing continues to evolve, it may pave the way for novel solutions to complex problems, ushering in a new era of computational possibilities where traditional operating systems like Windows will not apply.

As of now, there is no proven quantum computer that can run indefinitely without any errors.

The journey into the realm of quantum computing is indeed a fascinating and complex one, with endless opportunities for exploration and innovation.
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Halliwell 12/12/24, 9:28:46 AM
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Sounds like you're interested/curious about quantum computing and the concept of algorithmic qubits!
Algorithmic qubits, also known as logical qubits, are qubits that have error correction


lollollol

You don’t say

big grin
VIX 12/12/24, 12:39:51 PM
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poor guy ent even realise what he did there lol

is you does encourage that dotishnessbig grin
Master_Blaster 12/12/24, 1:51:34 PM
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What a thing to not know what you don't know but think you knowlol
sgtdjones 12/12/24, 2:16:59 PM
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Sounds like you're interested/curious about quantum computing and the concept of algorithmic qubits!
Algorithmic qubits, also known as logical qubits, are qubits that have error correction


Nothing is wrong with the above statement.

Quantum computing materials are typically authored by experts from various fields, such as mathematics, physics, and computer science, who contribute their knowledge to advance theoretical research in this cutting-edge domain.


Pseudo's You missed the gist of my response to engage in stupidity.

Oh, forgive me; I didn't realize that you were involved in theoretical research in one of the following fields: mathematics, physics, and computer science
Gotta feel sorry for this bunch. Soon others will be by....

Must be a full moon; crabs in a barrel are trying to get out...rolleyes
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sgtdjones 12/12/24, 2:32:34 PM
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It took you more than 30 minutes to solve a simple arithmetic problem that your child brought home from class.

The teacher must have met you and recognized your competence to submit such a math question.
Then you come to this website to beg for assistance.


Courtesy finally noted you are stupid and an idiot, yet you failed to realize his comments.
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Halliwell 12/12/24, 5:18:22 PM
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big grin

Two crab fightin, big gundy an all

Too funny lol
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sgtdjones 12/12/24, 5:32:25 PM
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These psuedos are funny, especially the doltheads from T&T.

cool
Halliwell 12/12/24, 5:40:45 PM
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Ent you is a trini crab too? You can’t stomach Rowley’s success!!!
sgtdjones 12/12/24, 5:43:52 PM
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So VIX got caught plagiarizing.... wahahahahaha

I am looking for the thread where you got called stupid, idiot...cool

Math question for an 11 yr old

Courtesy
11/28/24, 1:14:17 PM
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In reply to VIX

You're not a bright boy are you?

In fact, you are a total idiot.



Courtesy
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lollollol

Poor you...and yes my brain is upside down. That's why I turned the maths problem upside down.

One thing for sure, I would never take 30 minutes to work out this problem.

You are not as bright as I initially thought. Infact you are a damn ass for bringing this dumbass question to an MB.
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sgtdjones 12/12/24, 5:44:35 PM
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I just go and buy Trini Crabs near Mosquito Creek.

I gave up on T&T , just taking the US dollars Rowley pays me..cool
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VIX 12/15/24, 12:45:32 AM
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If this is a pissing contest, then I am disqualified. I made it to community college.


You weren't aware that Stupidjones claims to have been a star football player at an Ivy League college?
I can post the link if you want.