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Trump surrenders Ukraine to Putin...

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Larr Pullo 2/13/25, 1:24:38 PM
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Where are the Ukraine hitters? This type of betrayal deserves some sort of payback.
ray 2/13/25, 2:16:59 PM
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Putin has Trump on his kneesbig grin
SEasySix 2/13/25, 3:09:13 PM
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In reply to Larr Pullo

Excuse you?
Cheeks 2/13/25, 3:41:19 PM
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DJT lives in a world of winners and losers. Its a simple as that.

This 'no war president' is all about bullying by the strong and capitulation of the perceived weak.

He is a pox on humanity. That guy wishes he could return to slavery days. Its what the second A in MAGA is ALL about.

It is hard to see how his presidency can end well.
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XDFIX 2/13/25, 4:56:09 PM
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In reply to Larr Pullo

The beauty about America is that they can only afford two dozes of Trump!

The MAGA team was never gonna support Ukraine over Russia, and as Cheeks said, "DJT lives in a world of winners and losers. Its a simple as that."
camos 2/13/25, 5:33:16 PM
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this must be reassuring to Tiwan.
sudden 2/13/25, 5:39:45 PM
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De Precedent giving away Ukraine hoping to somehow persuade Putin to join USA against China
sudden 2/13/25, 5:49:07 PM
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Fallback position- divvy up Europe and the rest among USA, Russia and China
embsallie 2/13/25, 7:23:15 PM
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In reply to sudden

I don't think he wants any European Country other than Greenland, so he will let China and Russia fight over them.
Besides he would have already expanded the US borders by getting Canada as the 51st State, taking over Panama and doh forget the GAZA strip.
lol
SnoopDog 2/13/25, 7:25:56 PM
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In reply to sudden

When the Dotard betrayed the Kurds back in 2019 that should have been the warning sign for every U.S. ally that Dumbfcukingstan can longer be trusted.
carl0002 2/13/25, 7:47:48 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

Boss if you go down that road there is a whole bunch of sign the US allies missed and it hard to pick which one was more critical.
SnoopDog 2/13/25, 7:56:43 PM
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In reply to carl0002

Boss if you go down that road there is a whole bunch of sign the US allies missed and it hard to pick which one was more critical.


For me, it was when this picture was released.
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carl0002 2/13/25, 8:22:26 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

And that was only the foreplay big grinbig grinbig grin
SnoopDog 2/13/25, 8:23:44 PM
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In reply to carl0002

Don't forget the Moscow Pee Pee tapes. lol
KTom 2/13/25, 10:04:38 PM
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I think many Ukrainians (and Palestinians, for that matter) are happy that Trump won and that he's more likely to bring about some sort of peace. Neither Ukraine nor Russia can win, but neither can be seen to back down. Trump being seen to force them to the table is probably what both sides want.
sudden 2/13/25, 10:12:06 PM
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In reply to KTom

John Knox,

Trump is the one who is negotiating, if you can call it that, with Putin

Neither Zelenskyy nor NATO is part of the negotiation team

The same goes for Palestine

It is all Trump
carl0002 2/13/25, 10:20:50 PM
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In reply to KTom

Ktom where did you get that info that Ukrainians/Palestinians are happy if Trump wins. Not buying it. Trump already indicated in his last admin that he would have let Putin do what ever he wants in Ukraine. Bomb the hell outa them he said. Now he want to turn the Palestinians homeland into a resort and deport them, who would be happy with that. Mek it make sense for me please.
KTom 2/13/25, 10:23:23 PM
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In reply to sudden

Do you think Ukraine can win this war? What's your endgame apart from an imperfect peace?
sudden 2/13/25, 10:25:55 PM
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In reply to KTom

Those are questions you should answer honestly before posting Shoite
KTom 2/13/25, 10:26:02 PM
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In reply to carl0002

Do you think Ukrainians and Palestinians are happy fighting wars they cannot win?
carl0002 2/13/25, 10:36:25 PM
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In reply to KTom

A Trump win results in these people losing all or portions of their homeland. That is guaranteed. Are you saying that they welcome such a result as oppose to fighting for it? And Trump is not forcing anyone to the table. Its straight up capitulation going on cause he declaring Russia win and keep all of Ukraine's land. That's not negotiation.
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KTom 2/13/25, 10:41:41 PM
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In reply to carl0002

They lost part of their homeland in 2014. They'll just lose a bit more. But, overall, the war will be seen as a bigger defeat for Russia.
Slipfeeler 2/14/25, 12:16:24 AM
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In reply to Larr Pullo

Trump surrendering while giving everyone the impression that he is winning or the best business dealer. He surrenders Ukraine to Russia and surrenders Gaza to Israel and himself.
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camos 2/14/25, 2:36:49 PM
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In reply to KTom

But, overall, the war will be seen as a bigger defeat for Russia.
by whom, so why EU up in arms?
VIX 2/14/25, 3:56:25 PM
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so allyuh don't find it diabolical that Trump sanctioning the INternational criminal court and its members?
All in the name of protecting Putin and Netanyahu???
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