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Chrissy 3/18/25, 10:45:01 PM
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April
Emir 3/18/25, 11:57:51 PM
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debut: 8/9/14
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In reply to Chrissy

Yep!

April 28th.
This is a great move!!!!

Sadly for TT, there is only choice, as the opposition leader has destroyed the party of Panday and with her tribal outlook.

Expect a massive PNM victory, for all their faults, they remain the only true national party.
Halliwell 3/19/25, 6:30:54 AM
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debut: 5/14/05
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In reply to Emir

Are they only ‘good’ because the UNC are overtly corrupt?

There is misstep after misstep and incompetence after incompetence

Stand alone, PNM are ineffective as a government and we continue to slide further away from growth, security and unity.
Emir 3/19/25, 12:00:21 PM
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debut: 8/9/14
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In reply to Halliwell

The PNM failed with crime fighting, but they are not the only one.

Other policies have been good. The management of natural resources have won international praise and they made some very difficult but necessary calls with respect to the oil and gas industry.

There are "no misstep after misstep" etc- nothing out of the norm for a functioning government.

The PNM is the only true national party and the alternative to them is a small narrow tribal ethnic party led by the biggest loser in Trinidad political history.

A person who begged 2 US presidents to sanction her country, it is one of the reason why the PNM failed with crime, they failed to ask for the prosecution of a person who many believe is guilty of treason, now she wants to be PM.
Prako 3/19/25, 1:03:19 PM
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debut: 10/10/16
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In reply to Halliwell

Are they only ‘good’ because the UNC are overtly corrupt?


PNM is a very well run party and structured government that is a party for all. PNM's performance is not correlated with what UNC has done or failed to do.
VIX 3/19/25, 1:17:21 PM
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debut: 2/7/03
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In reply to Halliwell

There is misstep after misstep and incompetence after incompetence

IN that regard, its almost as if they're competing with great merica, not to mention Great Britain!
Prako 3/19/25, 1:25:21 PM
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In reply to VIX

Many times you get the feeling that UNC, being so long in Opposition, wants to be in Opposition because they never seem to have ideas or solutions but rather complain and "Oppose for opposing sake."

As Panday once said "Lead if you want to Lead."
VIX 3/19/25, 2:33:04 PM
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debut: 2/7/03
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In reply to Prako

I'll take this version of the PNM over the rudderless, incompetent UNC any day.
The only way the UNC can bounce back is by selecting a new, forward-thinking leader and getting rid of the people who benefited from the corruption they enabled.
Why the party sticks with unpopular Kamla is beyondn me
Halliwell 3/19/25, 8:50:21 PM
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How is the management of natural resources so excellent that people poor, roads bad, public service corruption rife and crime off the charts? Because UNC rudderless? lol
Jumpstart 3/19/25, 9:14:58 PM
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In reply to Halliwell

err....poor by which standards? If yuh mean poor as a result of causing virtually every fete to be sold out then yes
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Halliwell 3/19/25, 10:15:45 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

lol
sgtdjones 3/20/25, 2:59:03 AM
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In reply to Halliwell

How is the management of natural resources so excellent that people poor, roads bad, public service corruption rife and crime off the charts? Because UNC rudderless?


Let's hear from the PNM supporters. Apart from Rowley's pension and retirement benefits, what else has improved in the past ten years?

Governance and Decline:
Over the past decade, Trinidad and Tobago has faced significant challenges in governance, leaving many citizens disillusioned with the state of the nation. Issues such as crime, economic instability, declining infrastructure, and worsening inequality have eroded public confidence. Despite promises of progress, tangible improvements remain elusive.

The country’s ranking as sixth in murders per capita globally highlights a national security crisis that successive governments have failed to resolve. Economic challenges, including a $4 billion US capital flight to Guyana and a 50% shutdown of Point Lisas plants, reveal a lack of diversification and poor adaptation to global energy shifts. The Heritage and Stabilization Fund’s depletion from $12.6 billion US to less than $6 billion further underscores financial mismanagement, leaving critical sectors underfunded.

Meanwhile, everyday citizens struggle with poverty, inadequate healthcare, poor roads, and unreliable utilities, while political elites benefit from generous pensions and back pay. This growing disparity fuels public frustration and deepens mistrust in leadership.

To move forward, future governments must prioritize economic diversification, invest in infrastructure, and address systemic inequality. Transparency and accountability are critical to restoring public trust. Without urgent change, the gap between leadership and citizens will only widen, risking further stagnation for the nation.

About 20% of people in Trinidad and Tobago are below the national poverty line, and the rate is higher for some racialized groups.

T&T is bankrupt....evil
notinsular 3/20/25, 9:57:40 AM
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In reply to sgtdjones
About 20% of people in Trinidad and Tobago are below the national poverty line


Fact check alert!!
Fact check alert!!

A statistical approach - CSO
In 2018, Trinidad and Tobago’s unemployment rate stood at 4.1%; compared to Canada’s 5.5% and Australia’s 5.3%, it was one of the lowest in the world. Labour force participation, however, has been on a decline over the past few years.


According to the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) Human Development Report, a 2011 study noted that, in Trinidad and Tobago, 9 thousand persons were multidimensionally poor while 51 thousand were vulnerable to multidimensional poverty. However, the CSO’s Household Budgetary Survey and the Survey of Living Conditions shows that over the years, the poverty level has fluctuated with recent studies showing a decrease in poverty and positive indicators for social development.



Please note that individuals politically aligned to the Trinidad and Tobago UNC opposition party have in their employ, a significant number of operatives, many of whom are paid, to disseminate biased opinions, misinformation and personal attacks against their political opponents on social media.
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Halliwell 3/20/25, 10:23:46 AM
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You ‘fact checked’ and ‘fact alerted’ a poverty stat with an unemployment stat?

You’re one of the special ones, non-aligned politically and certainly a non-operative. Viva Ostriches!!! lol
notinsular 3/20/25, 10:44:15 AM
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In reply to Halliwell

Oh I see!
Your attention span is somewhat limited, and couldn't get past the first sentence.
The first quote was contextual, while the second, from the same article provided the specifics.

But that's ok, next time I'll remember to cater to some of the slower ones. cool
Jumpstart 3/20/25, 10:48:19 AM
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debut: 11/30/17
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In reply to sgtdjones

20% of the work force isn’t unemployed. The last CSO survey listed it at 5.4%. There is anecdotal evidence that youth unemployment is high. That to me though depends on your major. Unfortunately, in TT, you are more likely to get a job in engineering than if you study humanities, and that’s a tragedy because many Trinidadians now can solve relatively complex math and science problems, but can’t read or pronounce words properly. Grammar is also a serious issue. And of course there are challenges at the secondary level where every year, half or just under half of the population passes Maths and English. You can’t get a job in most government places if you don’t have Maths and English. It’s the most basic requirement
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Emir 3/20/25, 11:59:22 AM
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In reply to Halliwell

Not funny bro. You ask a question, but when you get the answer, you then play dumb if the answer isn't what you wanted if it doesn't support your belief.

You are free to back a tribal and ethnic party of a lady who has hijacked it and alienated it supporters, or you can exaggerate how bad the PNM is. but please don't be dishonest or a chupidee like the cut and paste Indesh you follow.

You are a better person than dat.
sgtdjones 3/20/25, 1:50:04 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

T&T unemployment stats do not show citizens that gave up no longer looking for jobs.

That's why your government shows that low number of unemployed.
sgtdjones 3/20/25, 1:55:12 PM
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In reply to Halliwell

Notice :

Now I am referred to as Indian... its amazing.

Just show facts and are deemed to be a paid supporter of a political entity in T&T.
They bury their heads in the sand, showing paradise through rose-coloured glasses.

I get my facts from an NGO that I support with funds for the poor.
Ms Ramnarine in La Romaine. A lady that accepts no money for her services to the poor in T&T.

How is the management of natural resources so excellent that people poor, roads bad, public service corruption rife and crime off the charts? Because UNC rudderless?


They ignore this: 10 years in power...when any government that cannot provide safety for its citizens is a failed state.
Its easy to blame the opposition; Rowley did it for a decade.
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Jumpstart 3/20/25, 2:23:12 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

not the role of gortt. The government doesn't know what sort of values you incorporate into your children, neither do they have control over that. And this goes for rich or poor. if your parents teach you that poverty is an excuse for crime, then they're inculcating poor and criminal values. If your parents tell or show you that nothing is wrong with pilfering state resources, then they're inculcating poor values. If they tell you that anything goes in order for you to maintain or attain a certain lifestyle......again poor values. there is nothing gortt or the ttps can do about that.
Jumpstart 3/20/25, 2:25:06 PM
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debut: 11/30/17
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In reply to sgtdjones

T&T unemployment stats do not show citizens that gave up no longer looking for jobs.

that number is more than likely extremely minute, minute enough to be considered negligible. most people in tt either know a trade, or have attained a full csec cert or have some form of post secondary qualification.
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sgtdjones 3/20/25, 2:44:00 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

that number is more than likely extremely minute, minute enough to be considered negligible. most people in tt either know a trade, or have attained a full csec cert or have some form of post secondary qualification.


Jumpy , jumpy

If one does not have a full-time job, they are classified as unemployed.
sgtdjones 3/20/25, 2:58:49 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

not the role of gortt.


The Canadian government has indeed taken a proactive approach to workforce planning, recognizing the gaps that will emerge as large segments of the current workforce retire over the next decade. By identifying shortages—like the need for 10,000 welders, 15,000 plumbers, and 20,000 electricians—it is working to meet these demands by incentivizing businesses to invest in training programs and pushing educational institutions to prepare young Canadians for these roles well in advance. This kind of foresight not only addresses future labour market needs but also ensures that citizens see a clear pathway to gainful employment. When people perceive real opportunities for advancement, it can act as a powerful motivator, reducing the appeal of destructive alternatives like crime and fostering a more optimistic and productive society.

The emphasis on education and training as a foundation for future success is also tied to emerging technologies. Canada’s leadership role in equipping its citizens with skills for the jobs of the future—whether in green energy, artificial intelligence, or advanced manufacturing—shows a commitment to aligning education with economic realities. However, the key to this approach lies in translating skills into actual opportunities. Without jobs available for graduates, even the best training initiatives could falter. The government’s ability to connect education with employment opportunities is what sustains this system and builds trust among its citizens.

When this is compared to T&T, it highlights some stark contrasts. Many impoverished families in T&T have long struggled to find opportunities to improve their circumstances. Since independence, significant revenues have been earned during oil and gas booms, yet the question arises: has T&T truly advanced in ways that impact the majority of its citizens? While there have been periods of economic growth, the benefits have not always been equitably distributed, leaving many communities feeling disconnected from national progress.

A lack of structured, long-term planning like the kind seen in Canada might be part of the issue. Investment in education and training, particularly aligned with the needs of a modern economy, could help bridge this gap. For instance, if T&T were to identify sectors with potential for growth—such as renewable energy, tourism innovation, or even niche areas in global tech—it could build a strategy to train its workforce accordingly. But this must be paired with tangible pathways to employment. Without clear opportunities for skilled graduates, frustration can grow, and the cycle of poverty and crime may persist.

Ultimately, leadership plays a critical role in shaping a nation’s trajectory. When citizens see leaders who prioritize their futures through deliberate investment in education, job creation, and economic equity, they are more likely to feel hopeful and engaged. For T&T, the lessons from countries like Canada could provide a roadmap for addressing systemic challenges and building a more inclusive, opportunity-driven society.
Look at the situation of safety for its citizens..regressing since Independence..WHY?

The city of Toronto has six murders for this year.
Halliwell 3/20/25, 3:16:37 PM
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Well apparently here if you don’t drink the PNM koolaid then you’re a UNC supporter. Would it help if I say UNC are worse?

Look whatever is being served up is far from even approaching average
Let’s not argue who is D vs D-

People should expect better in 2025.
But accountability is a new concept, maybe even yet undiscovered.

Emir you have you agendas that much is clear
Prako 3/20/25, 4:08:40 PM
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In reply to Halliwell

How is the management of natural resources so excellent that people poor, roads bad, public service corruption rife and crime off the charts? Because UNC rudderless? lol


Very good questions my youth.

There are 2 items I want to separate: 1. Election Machinery, 2. Execution of Governance

1. PNM has a very good Election Machinery.
From Williams to Manning, they had that strategy to mobilize and win (except for the Chambers disaster)

2. Governance
By and large, T&T is a developing country and still struggle with capitalism. Most of the population are still in a "hand out" and "dependency" syndrome where they think the "Government" must take care of us.

Even the wealthy (and what you call the Middle class) try their best to avoid paying taxes and take shortcuts in everything from making an appointment to get an ID card to get foreign exchange in the bank by utilizing "I have a friend in high places." That mentality still shackles people, even the educated ones, and the PNM capitalizes on it.

I will give the PNM a poor governance rating (lots of mismanagement of natural resources and how they manage Public Service Employees) however, the population does not keep them accountable. They push the letter as far as they can because they can get away with it.

The only one who really stood up against bad governance was Winston Dookeran but he got kicked by both the PNM and UNC and COP faded away.
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