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The three guilty parties must be sanctioned further....losing % of match fees is not enough. It must be determined whether this a team effort cheating and whether cappo Imlach was aware of it.

GHE must forfeit the game to Red Force....and Red Force must be awarded Champions of the regional 4 day championship,

The CWI FINE

CORRECTION: two players guilty of ball tampering

In reply to Narper

Well said Narper! Also Permaul and Anderson need to be suspended for one season!

I wonder how many times they fidelity this during the season

In reply to Baje

You mean how many times they fidelity over the years.

This is not good for our cricket and will stain our competitions.

In reply to voiceofreason

Permaul and Anderson.

Anderson is on the verge of making the senior WI team and he's doing that nonsense... something seriously wrong with these guys.

In reply to anthonyp

In reply to Narper

Really sad events. And I don't see why this was necessary on the part
of the Harpies. Very disappointed about this.
Shameful indeed.

Really shameful. Permaul has been around long enough and I expected better from him. Disappointed in Anderson too.

Unnecessary, disgraceful.

In reply to Arlo

in a word.

STUMPED


let the Anvil fall where it must.

send an immediate message to all an sundry..

leff de ppl girl children alone,

leff de ppl dem bwoy chilren botty alone..

no teefing

no match fixing

In reply to Narper

In reply to anthonyp

Anderson is a junior in the team and is probably intimidated by the seniors.

In reply to Narper

This is an election year so I don't expect President Ali to do anything

In reply to Narper

Champions

I'm sorry to read this. Totally unnecessary from players on a team that has dominated 4 day cricket in recent years. I was going to say congrats but it is also unfair to the other players who weren't involved to suffer as a result. Those guilty should truly understand that cheating doesn't help your cause to play at the highest level.

In reply to Narper


Agree

Disappointed. Tarnishes the entire season since they might have been doing that all along.there should be further clarification and explanations

In reply to Narper

that is pushing it. guyana did not lose a game. trinidad did. guyana deserved to be sanctioned but TT does not deserve to win the championship.

One player caught tampering with the ball is an outlier. Two indicates complicity. One can only surmise others knew of these transgressions.
I disagree the government should get involved, let the board of both Guyana and WI show leadership and impose tough sanctions, plus a thorough investigation.

I am calling for a permanent ban on all guilty parties. You just do not wake up one morning and say" I feel like I am going to cheat today"

Permanent ban may seem harsh but the message would be clear: Zero tolerance on cheating.

guyana cricket under the microscope now people are going to ask if they have been doing this whole season

The one who should be getting the full penalty is Permaul. Make him an example.

Past championships will also be in question.

In reply to Overthrow

Lol you stretching it now... chill.

Pooran was banned for ball tampering.. does that mean all matches that he played in are questionable?

In reply to anthonyp

Pooran was fielding when his transgression occurred. This instance relates to the bowlers( similar to the situation with Australia). One has to question how long has this been occurring and whom else was complicit. Sorry sir, these past championships are in question.

In reply to Overthrow

Lol how is it any different? Ball tampering is ball tampering.

Wasn't Kevlon and Permaul fielding too when this shyte occurred?

Or is it because he's your homie all of a sudden his situation is different.

Alex Heles lost an entire international career because he couldn’t be trusted!

Permaul is done internationally and should be domestically also.

The other two, well they need some sort of discipline and rehab in ethics.

Give another team the title.

In reply to anthonyp

What a ridiculous post.

In reply to Overthrow

Of course it is.. just as ridiculous as yours.

Think rationally. Pooran was picking on a thread on the ball, which is a strict no, no. The bowlers in question brought a foreign object into the field of play to alter the condition of the ball thereby creating an advantage. This has to be continuous behaviour over time.

In reply to Overthrow

Huh? They brought a foreign object on to the field? Where did you get that from? Which one of the releases stated that?

Least you could do is post a link to that bit of news. Thanks in advance.

On a side note... what was the purpose of 'picking' on the ball or whatever you claim that he did... isn't it the same as tampering the ball to gain unfair advantage?

In reply to anthonyp

Did you miss the part where the umpire checked pockets?

In reply to Overthrow

Did they find anything in the pockets? Still waiting for this link.

Why this unnecessary infighting....

. everyone accepts the act of ball tampering shameful...
Enquiry must be made....that enquiry should be conducted by CWI.... Shallow should be head ....white paper within fortnight...till then Title on hold...

If proven, the conspiracy ran deep...points dock....both players have accepted their guilt....only thing left...if management was hand in glove... incident occurred twice....in both innings.... connivance of seniors including coach and captain should be looked into....

In reply to anthonyp

Why did they plead guilty?

Accountability and effective oversight didn’t just appear overnight across the region.

Nothing
Will
Happen

Move on

They plead guilty because they were innocent. I was of the opinion one particular poster had the integrity of WI cricket at heart. Just been schooled the poster is incredibly naive.

In reply to sgtdjones

Maybe you could help your countryman to find the link. He can't seem to find it.

Thanks in advance.

Didn't Pooran admit to tampering the ball too? Does that make ever single match that he played in questionable?

De point I am trying to make is you can't go about saying all the people trophies are questionable without any proof. Yes those two clowns tainted this one, but to say all of their trophies are tainted without any evidence is ludicrous.

The real question is how long has this been going on as I am sure this is not a one match situation. An inquiry must be ordered by the CWI as this is akin to the Patriot's spygate scandal.

In reply to voiceofreason

Why would you think that when every match was recorded??? Why do you guys want to introduce evidence that doesn’t exist based on a feeling ??? Steuuups!

In reply to anthonyp

The players pleaded guilty, but why if there was no evidence?

Do you understand my sentence above?

In reply to sgtdjones

Gonna engage you for the last time. Could you and Badree post the link to where they found objects in their pockets?

If not, there's no need to continue this conversation.

the part below don't make sense as the players accepted the penalties and did not contest it.....did someone advise them to do so? Why didnt Imlach protest the ball changes?

In reply to anthonyp

Is your head really this hard?

Umpires send a report to management; the players are then called to a hearing.
They pleaded guilty, so no formal hearing was required?
This is what I am basing my comment upon.

Show me where I mentioned Badree?

Narper posted above what the players pleaded guilty too!!!!!

Your defence is futile.

In reply to sgtdjones

Oh skunt.. are all Trini's this slow?

Badree posted earlier that they found objects in the players pocket. Where the fcuk did I say they weren't guilty?

Your country man made a statement that they found objects in the players pockets... all I am asking for is the damn evidence. If you and the other one can't produce it then stfu.

In reply to anthonyp

I don't care what any countryman says ....

Why do Caribbean nationals bring up irrelevant facts to justify positions?

In reply to sgtdjones

Well if you don't care what your countryman man says then stay in yuh lane.. is me and he was having a discussion.

I asked him to provide information on what he said and to date he cant. Now you with some dotish crap that everybody already know on the post.

When yuh was small you were always left out of things right? That would explain a whole lot.

In reply to anthonyp

It shows your stupidity when you cannot answer an uncomplicated question and resort to obfuscation.

Not a problem simpleton...

In reply to Narper

Sad Behavior.

It didn’t take long

Now it clear for all to see

Nothing is ever bad enough

In reply to anandgb

In reply to Halliwell

In reply to sgtdjones

Lol you really big and dotish.

I got an idea, maybe you could use one of your multiple handles and reply to yourself, that way you will think that you are relevant

In reply to anthonyp

wow ...

In reply to anthonyp

It's positively hilarious to see all the Tits here frothing at the mouth about "cheating" when all of them still support a rank pelter who's been pelting/cheating his entire career.

In reply to SnoopDog

The discussion at hand revolves around allegations of rule violations by Guyanese cricket players, which, as acknowledged, they themselves have pleaded guilty to. Rather than addressing the core issue, some of you are resorting to deflection by drawing irrelevant comparisons, such as bringing up Trinidad and Tobago (T&T) in an attempt to shift focus. This tactic does little to refute the allegations or uphold the integrity of the argument.

What relevance does T&T have to these specific allegations? If the goal is to find comfort in such diversions, then by all means, proceed. However, it does not absolve or change the fact that Guyana’s championship title is overshadowed by tainted conduct. Acknowledging this reality is critical if we are to uphold fairness and transparency in the sport.

As a cricket enthusiast, my stance remains consistent: if players from T&T were to violate the rules in a similar fashion, I would be the first to call for their disqualification. Celebrating achievements rooted in questionable practices undermines the true spirit of the game. Integrity must come before blind allegiance.

In reply to sgtdjones

The discussion at hand revolves around allegations of rule violations by Guyanese cricket players, which, as acknowledged, they themselves have pleaded guilty to

Is it possible the Trinidadian Board pressured the Guyanese players to plead guilty?

I still want to know what was done to the ball

In reply to WI_cricfan

Imagine Guyanese so guilty of ripping the ball to shreds, yet the Trinis apparently didn’t lodged a formal protest of the outcome! Go figure!
Obviously, the issue has been resolved satisfactorily to all parties involved.

In reply to StumpCam

So in other words this would have been a non issue if the Tits had won the game and the championship.

In reply to WI_cricfan

What if they have been doing this all season?

In reply to WIForever

In reply to Narper

Narps
Notice the irrelevant questions being asked?

In reply to sgtdjones

In reply to googley

Those puja fumes are getting to you, eh pandit.

I posted the infractions here

Why did the mudheads plead guilty?

In reply to sgtdjones

In reply to googley

Why don't you ask CWI or your dumbarse players that pleaded guilty...

They were caught violating rules and pleaded guilty.

The umpires caught them , they work for CWI.

Are muddies head so hard that you can't understand the above?

In reply to googley

blind allegiance.......all of us cuss trinidad for losing to JA and thus virtually handing guyana the title....long before those players were caught.........just deflecting from blatant cheating

In reply to WIForever

In reply to Jumpstart

They will be forever tainted for this season. CWI must get to the bottom of this. Sad, they have such a decent team, no need to cheat to win. Some very good players who I wanted in the WI team including their captain to lead WI.

In reply to Emir