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Bravos- has Trump stopped the killings in Gaza?

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sudden 4/19/25, 3:19:49 PM
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please come out and give us your side of the story

edumacate us on the brilliant strategy that we cant see now but will reap great rewards soon
Walco 4/19/25, 3:28:24 PM
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In reply to sudden

Man you all over bravos like white on rice. Wasn't Trump supposed to stop the killings in Ukraine also? The only place the almighty Trump cannot stop killings is in the United States of America.
googley 4/19/25, 3:48:14 PM
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In reply to sudden

You should be asking those who didn't vote for Kamala that question too wink
nick2020 4/19/25, 4:29:51 PM
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In reply to Walco

The lengths people go to.

Bravos did not really care about the war in wherever; for him is was about LGBTQ+.

The fascinating part is how that side has chosen to demonize that group of people. It is hard to grab your pitchforks for people who are adults and doing things behind closed doors so you make up stories about sending little Christian to school and Christian comes home as Christina.

Serious question - what is the issue with a transperson using a bathroom other than the one that corresponds to the gender assigned at birth? What will happen if Kaitlyn Jenner uses the same bathroom as my daughter? Kaitlyn will rape her? Can't a lesbian woman also rape my daughter? Are you going to station a person at the bathroom door with a polygraph to determine if there are rapist intentions and not just number 1 or 2 intentions?

Bravos won't be found though.
Walco 4/19/25, 4:54:16 PM
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In reply to nick2020

I don't know why most heterosexual people think that members of the LGBTQ community are all pedophiles and sexually obsessed people who are always on the prowl/hunt. It is a belief/fear borne of ignorance, and Trump and Republicans are experts at exploiting those irrational fears and prejudices.

But bravos bought a huge serving of the snake oil that Don the Con was selling ...
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Cheeks 4/19/25, 5:44:23 PM
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In reply to Walco

But bravos bought a huge serving of the snake oil that Don the Con was selling ...


Not just Bravos.

An uncomfortable amount of brown/black males did the same. Sadly ...a big part of it is a secret desire for the lack of accountability that DJT represents. I have a few 'friends' including former classmates who I know well enough to know that those of a certain type of behaviour have all gravitated to DJT....his obvious racial and other prejudices be damned.
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VIX 4/19/25, 6:10:41 PM
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In reply to nick2020

That’s the type of simplistic argument that conservatives rail against. I doubt any conservatives are against lgbtq+ persons individually. The concern is about the push to normalise it - the shoving it down our throat argument. The issue isn’t about consenting adults or people living life as they wish, but how all of society is pressured to embrace the lifestyles, especially wrt kids without permission or context from parents.

The issue with trans persons using female bathrooms is that it leaves it open to abuse by those who don’t have actual transgender identities.

Would you be comfortable if Mia were to open female bathrooms to everyone who identified as female?
Walco 4/19/25, 6:25:02 PM
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In reply to Cheeks

I always tell people that I am a single issue voter. I cannot vote for a racist, so I could never vote for Trump.

Some of the most vocal Trump supporters on this board have been a lot less vocal recently while digesting his disastrous tariff policy and general lack of respect for the rule of law. But none of this should surprise or shock them. Trump declared everything he was planning to do on multiple occasions before the election last November. The only bait and switch was his denial of any intention to follow some of the more controversial policies outlined in the Project 2025 handbook. Of course, those of us who have figured out Trump knew right away that he was lying about Project 2025.
Walco 4/19/25, 6:29:38 PM
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In reply to VIX

Would you be comfortable if Mia were to open female bathrooms to everyone who identified as female?

So that's the issue? Can any man in a blue state in the United States use female bathrooms by simply saying that he identifies as female?
VIX 4/19/25, 6:31:55 PM
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In reply to Walco

The issue with trans persons using female bathrooms is that it leaves it open to abuse by those who don’t have actual transgender identities.
Walco 4/19/25, 6:48:26 PM
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In reply to VIX

The issue with trans persons using female bathrooms is that it leaves it open to abuse by those who don’t have actual transgender identities.

Well I am not aware of anyone advocating that a man should be able to use female bathrooms simply by saying that he identifies as female. And anyone advocating such a position would not be taken seriously by anyone except for people on the political fringes.
nick2020 4/19/25, 7:57:32 PM
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In reply to VIX

That’s the type of simplistic argument that conservatives rail against. I doubt any conservatives are against lgbtq+ persons individually. The concern is about the push to normalise it - the shoving it down our throat argument. The issue isn’t about consenting adults or people living life as they wish, but how all of society is pressured to embrace the lifestyles, especially wrt kids without permission or context from parents.


This is so far from the truth I was struggling on where to start.

I doubt any conservatives are against lgbtq+ persons individually.


So I will take this route:

1. Trump signs executive orders proclaiming there are only two biological sexes, halting diversity programs

What you started with is the exact opposite of what is actually happening. LGBTQ+ people are here saying this is who I am while there are several people (not only conservatives) who are telling them they cannot be that. That is fundamentally having a problem with an individual. They are not shoving it down people's throats. I see the Social Media skits. I watched Dave Chappelle's skit on Jim Carey. I could go on and on but I will move on.

The issue isn’t about consenting adults or people living life as they wish, but how all of society is pressured to embrace the lifestyles, especially wrt kids without permission or context from parents.


Society finds itself in a rock and a hard place in the classroom. Why is it okay to teach children about reproduction, marriage and divorce? Isn't homosexuality something as well that exists in the animal kingdom? But I get it; tell a boy that gays exist and you are grooming him.

The issue with trans persons using female bathrooms is that it leaves it open to abuse by those who don’t have actual transgender identities.


What? Is this a thought through comment? You do not want persons to abuse being in a female bathroom? Who are those persons? Men pretending to be women so they can peep at women peeing? And this is a transgender issue?

I dunno what to tell you. There is a high level of intolerance towards the alphabet people and it comes from certain places. Weren't you the one who made the observation that culturally Caribbean people have more in common with conservatives than liberals?
camos 4/19/25, 8:56:48 PM
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In reply to VIX
The issue with trans persons using female bathrooms is that it leaves it open to abuse by those who don’t have actual transgender identities.




A basically castrated man, taking a heavy dose of female hormones is not out to hurt any woman, has there been a case of attack so far?
VIX 4/20/25, 3:33:12 AM
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In reply to nick2020

yeah, so yuh probably need to rethink your simplistic generalisation of this and other issues, and reconsider your dependence on solely liberal talking points, left wing US pop culture and broad oversimplifications.

When you bring up things like Trump’s executive orders or social media skits of all things, you picking examples that already match your mindset, instead of really listening to what others are saying. That’s confirmation bias, not critical thinking. Balanced views come from appreciating all sides even when you disagree, and not assuming all pushback is hateful.

But I must say, it's a welcome change to see conservative Caribbean people so suddenly and passionately supporting the LGBTQ+ movement. But do they genuinely believe in it or are they supporting it only because the other side, which they so strongly despise, appears to be against it? Thankfully this is a great muricka issue and not a lowly Caribbean one!
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Halliwell 4/20/25, 7:39:32 AM
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In reply to VIX

There are two issues at play here

The acceptance or not, of a lifestyle
The acceptance or not, of hate

And if you want to make it three,

The fact that these people call themselves ‘Christ- ian’
Walco 4/20/25, 2:56:40 PM
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In reply to Halliwell

Antman is all-knowing Halli. In fact, his powers are God-like on this holy Easter Sunday ...
sudden 4/20/25, 5:31:17 PM
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still no Bravos
sgtdjones 4/20/25, 5:34:16 PM
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......Sodden

You gave up female mail-order brides now for this Trini?
I reckon it's cool to be transgender as VIX.
Chrissy 4/20/25, 5:38:05 PM
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In reply to sudden
Of course not - they are all land and resource thieves.
Brerzerk 4/20/25, 9:27:38 PM
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Do you know what those blocking, yelling at and spitting on 7 little black students in Arkansas said?

" Black ppl didn't want integration...it was only Outside Agitators (i.e. liberals) who were ramming it down thier throat" Racists and prejudiced so n so's
methodic 4/21/25, 5:55:36 AM
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In reply to nick2020

There is a difference between education and promotion. It seems to me like it was being forced down the throat of the general public and world.
velo 4/21/25, 1:57:02 PM
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In reply to methodic

It wasn,t being forced down it was being rammed down and worse .they were promoting that to underage kids in school .regardless of the parents opinion ,approval or religious perspective
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methodic 4/21/25, 2:00:53 PM
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In reply to velo

correct
sudden 4/21/25, 2:11:59 PM
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reminds me of how english, other european languages and civil sensitivities, and european religions were rammed into native populations
Brerzerk 4/21/25, 4:52:25 PM
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In reply to velo

Serious question, exactly how does the LGBTQ movement impacts you? Do you have children and if so how do you think.it could affect them? As an individual are you forced to give it attention or can you ignore it? Should every possess the right to determine his own destiny...women and any other classified human too? You do know "the church" burned people at the stake for differing views worship and lifestyles right?
Wasn't MLK Gandhi et al murdered because at least one person thought they were ramming stuff down their throat? Bro, gross intolerance is a disease earth could do without.
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