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Bravos- has Trump stopped the killings in Gaza?

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carl0002 4/25/25, 2:46:32 PM
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I noticed this thread was dedicated to Bravos, it has now garnered three pages and Bravos has not shown up. Does that mean he is knocked-out, waver the white flag, or saying “No Mas?” I just pray he is OK

Deported to the gulag in El Salvador. And the strangest thing he wasn't even in the US big grinbig grinbig grin
SEasySix 4/25/25, 4:19:27 PM
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In reply to sudden

Its not trumps job to stop the killings in Gaza.
Brerzerk 4/25/25, 4:39:45 PM
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Vixie, in order to defend religious bigotry you always come with this conservative societies BS. Suh, because almost all of us as children (some reluctantly) went to either, Sunday/Sabbath School, Temple, Mosque, Kingdom Hall we come from conservative societies? Because we were taught to either disdain or mock LGBTQXYZ people we come from conservative societies? Our societies glorify cheating/Horning/Bun. Either turn a blind eye to or participate in all manner of child abandonment and abuse, some of our govts rape the treasury and abuse power-What the hell is conservative about those things? Maan stop! Those of us who on balance support the democratic party and despise the likes of Trump have in fact been influenced by the liberal movements and leaders in our Caribbean societies who fought for equal rights and justice, economic freedom, fair labor laws and the dignity of our people. Barrow, Manley, Bishop, Williams.........
If yuh seh is suh nuh mean is suh Conservative societies mi fanny!
VIX 4/25/25, 4:59:27 PM
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Unlike the well learned echo chamber, I'm not an expert in anthropology, sociology or political science, so I had to ask the most learned sources I have access to for an answer - 3 different LLM chatbots

prompt:Would it be fair to say that English-speaking Caribbean countries are generally socially conservative, especially in areas like religion, family values, and gender roles?

1
It is generally fair to say that English-speaking Caribbean countries are socially conservative, especially in the areas of religion, family values, and gender roles, though there are important nuances and ongoing changes.

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Yes, it’s fair to say that English-speaking Caribbean countries are generally socially conservative, particularly in areas like religion, family values, and gender roles, though this varies across the region and is evolving with time.

3
Yes, it would be fair—though with some nuance.

Generally speaking, English-speaking Caribbean societies tend to be socially conservative, especially in areas like religion, family structure, gender roles, and sexuality. This conservatism is often shaped by:

Strong Christian influence (especially Anglican, Pentecostal, and Roman Catholic traditions)

Colonial legacy and respect for formal institutions

Community-based values where public reputation and family honour are significant

Resistance to rapid cultural change, particularly from the Global North
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VIX 4/25/25, 5:04:51 PM
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lol
I had too much guyana rum last evening. But my point stands!!! lol
sudden 4/25/25, 5:28:04 PM
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Its not trumps job to stop the killings in Gaza.


was it Biden's?
sudden 4/25/25, 5:29:04 PM
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big grin
Brerzerk 4/25/25, 7:39:59 PM
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Your point does not stand! The idiocy of the article such as saying The Caribbean is socially conservative in the area of Religion is Bullshit!
Religious conservatism and social conservatism are different things. Claiming to be socially conservative based on religion when one only goes to
church Easter and Christmas is as hypocritical as 'cultural Jews' claiming 'God' gave them the land when that statement suits them.

You have in fact proven my point that our societies use Religious Bigotry to suit hating who they want to while having 'Illicit sex' left and right, abusing their
children, stealing and other corruption. What percentage of Caribbean population is 'Roman Catholic' by the way? How many socalled Methodist and Pentacostals actually practice their own teachings? Guh use AI search and cherry pick some mo'
Cheeks 4/25/25, 7:40:12 PM
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In reply to VIX

I had too much guyana rum last evening


In all fairness I've literally conformed to the Rum Shop eponym while typing a few cricket related posts in the past. That said...you need to dissect the post and let us know which part stands and which is El Dorado 25 yr old driven.
VIX 4/25/25, 9:10:16 PM
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Breds, you bouncing around all over the place looking for straws to grab to back your assertion that the Caribbean is not generally conservative. But it ent have nothing to hold on to.

It goes without saying that Caribbean societies can be selectively conservative, to justify bigotry, shame and even control. But that’s the thing eh, even if folks only go to church twice a year, or even never, the framework err.. the foundation of public morality and the like still leans on religious and traditional bases. Is not about personal conservatism, but society as a whole. But you know that.
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VIX 4/25/25, 9:15:41 PM
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just treat it as a general take on the delusional misfits and not as a contribution to the topic of discussion!! lol
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Brerzerk 4/25/25, 9:20:55 PM
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WOULD IT BE UNFAIR TO SAY English-speaking Caribbean nations are socially liberal societies?

ChatGPT said:
That's a really thoughtful question. It wouldn't necessarily be unfair, but it might be an oversimplification.

English-speaking Caribbean nations often show a mix of socially conservative and liberal tendencies, depending on the issue:

Conservative areas: Religion (especially Christianity) has a strong influence, and attitudes toward LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, and gender roles are often more conservative than in North America or Western Europe.Liberal areas: There's often openness around things like music, fashion, and cultural expression (think dancehall, Carnival, etc.), and in some places, there's growing advocacy for marijuana decriminalization, gender equality, and free expression.

My opinion- Spirituality and faith is scared of nothing at all. Religion on the other hand fears Openmindedness, Education and especially science. What say ye?

So, it's more accurate to say they're socially complex or in transition, rather than broadly liberal or conservative.

[stats]'Aks bias question get bias ansa 'Aks' thoughtful question and Biff...

WOULD IT BE UNFAIR TO SAY English-speaking Caribbean nations arw socially liberal?
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sudden 4/26/25, 2:40:41 PM
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well, i would like to see a politician in Bim campaigning on criminalising abortions, bulling, and horning

or one that wants to legalise bulling if that is necessary or even legal

or in Bim one that wants parents to pay fully for education
Walco 4/26/25, 3:00:40 PM
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well, i would like to see a politician in Bim campaigning on criminalising abortions, bulling, and horning

smile Are you suggesting that faux conservatism or conservatism for show is rampant in the Caribbean?
Brerzerk 4/28/25, 8:10:02 AM
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" Hypocrites n parasites all come in and take a bite but if nite should ever turn to day a lot of people would have to run away. Who the cap fit,
Hon Robeet Nesta Marley OM
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nick2020 4/28/25, 12:03:22 PM
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How many days are needed before sudden can file a missing person report?
Walco 4/28/25, 1:33:54 PM
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This has the potential to be one of those never-ending threads smile
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