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London bound Air India plane crashes on takeoff

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FanAttick 6/12/25, 10:53:07 AM
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242 passengers feared dead

I’m sure many more on the ground have perished

A London-bound plane carrying 242 people has crashed shortly after take-off in Ahmedabad, western India

Flight AI171 was travelling from Ahmedabad to London Gatwick

Tracking website Flightradar24 says it received the last signal from the aircraft at 625 feet (190m) "just seconds after take off"

It appears to have crashed in a residential area, our South Asia correspondent reports
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dayne 6/12/25, 12:04:00 PM
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Yes, another Boeing airplane.
hubert 6/12/25, 1:52:16 PM
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Horror of horrors. Too sad. Not good for Boeing too if this is not terrorist related.
XDFIX 6/12/25, 1:54:38 PM
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I smell something fishy!
Chrissy 6/12/25, 2:06:21 PM
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Hottific
Too sad
Chrissy 6/12/25, 2:07:14 PM
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Nothing fishy - takeoffs and landings can go wrong
Chrissy 6/12/25, 2:18:42 PM
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Guardian Report

Air India flight 171, a Boeing 787-8 (also known as a Dreamliner), came down in the residential area of Meghani Nagar five minutes after taking off at 1.38pm local time, Faiz Ahmed Kidwai, the director general of the directorate of civil aviation, told the Associated Press.

According to reports in the Indian media, the plane crashed into a building used as accommodation by doctors working in local hospitals.

The plane issued a mayday call to air-traffic control after takeoff. According to the Flightradar24 website, signal was lost seconds after takeoff when the plane had reached a height of 625ft.


204 bodies recovered - 44 injured on the ground.
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Chrissy 6/12/25, 2:29:35 PM
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Watching BBC
Expert says based on visual flaps were not properly extended and plane took off too early.
Very safe aircraft.
nitro 6/12/25, 2:36:15 PM
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Very sad.
hubert 6/12/25, 2:50:14 PM
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What they say ? Pilots' error ?
Relieved it's not terrorist act.But so many perished .
Kay 6/12/25, 3:19:46 PM
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It's the first accident for one of the 787 models which were released in 2014 i think.
Chrissy 6/12/25, 4:00:33 PM
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Look at the video - flaps should have been down.
There is one survivor from Seat 11A
FanAttick 6/12/25, 5:32:39 PM
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Everyone is going to book seat 11A now
Slipfeeler 6/12/25, 5:37:49 PM
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Question: If the plane was taking off, then why was its landing gear down and no flaps deployed.
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FanAttick 6/12/25, 5:44:24 PM
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They say it should have been retracted at 500 feet…

Not sure how high it got but flight tracking website flight aware said they tracked it to 700 feet
hubert 6/12/25, 6:10:14 PM
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That seat, 11 A,B or C is if memory serves is at a door or next to it on quite a few airplanes.
Don't know about these huge planes nowadays tho.
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Chrissy 6/12/25, 6:34:18 PM
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At less than 700ft landing gear would not have been up yet, but flaps should have still been down.
May have been a mechanical problem but I heard an expert say the plane did not cover the runway properly for lift. Details will follow.
Chrissy 6/12/25, 6:38:36 PM
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I was in 11F and 12A on my last trip and they are just a few seats behind the headboard that separates classes.
Ayenmol 6/12/25, 6:57:30 PM
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If the plane was taking off, then why was its landing gear down and no flaps deployed.


Using a question mark is usually sufficient when asking a question.

There is no set height for retracting the landing gear....it is retracted for efficiency reasons. And is done when the pilots deem it safe.

If there is an issue so soon after takeoff the pilots would be otherwise engaged or just not deemed it safe to retract if necessary to return anyway.

As for flaps, they are used in tandem with the ground speed of the aircraft to achieve lift....so either not enough flaps were dialed up for the speed. Or not enough speed was achieved for the flaps dialed in.

Or maybe the aircraft could not get up to the desired speed. Or was heavier than they calculated for.

These answers will come well into the investigation.
camos 6/12/25, 9:30:44 PM
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How big a plane you are licensed to fly?
Drapsey 6/12/25, 9:51:28 PM
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53' semi.
Ayenmol 6/12/25, 10:19:27 PM
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Coincidentally, 200' is just a bit longer than 2 tractors with trailer stacked end to end.

So it only takes a blip for such an aircraft to cover that from 500' to 700'
WI_cricfan 6/13/25, 12:10:11 AM
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I will wait for Sarge to give his expert commentary on this before I comment.
Chrissy 6/13/25, 12:25:00 AM
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Read dis

For 15 years now, engineers and quality control specialists have implored regulators, journalists and airlines to take a closer look at the 787 Dreamliner, Boeing’s first and only clean-sheet commercial airplane designed from scratch since the company’s horrific 1997 merger with McDonnell Douglas. The smooth surface of the lightweight composite fibers used to construct the airframe can conceal deadly structural flaws, they warned. The non-union workforce that manufactures the jets in South Carolina is unqualified to stand up to “good old boy” bosses constantly pressuring them to ignore obvious nonconformities, install malfunctioning parts and cut every corner imaginable to get planes out the door, they asserted. Unsavory subcontractors have exploited Boeing’s lax standards to litter the assembly line with fake parts, they demonstrated

The late John Barnett, who died last March in an apparent suicide two days into a three-day deposition stemming from the insane practices he witnessed and tried vainly to stop as a quality manager at the Dreamliner’s final assembly plant in Charleston, South Carolina, had a ready answer for this question: Just wait a bit. Most planes aren’t designed to dive nosefirst into the ground like the 737 Max. It generally takes, he’d say with audible sadness, ten or twelve years for assembly-line sloppiness to culminate in a plane crash. (Barnett personally drove everywhere in the orange truck in which he died.)
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Ayenmol 6/13/25, 3:01:18 AM
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Leave it up to you to find some 9bscure post somewhere bashing Boeing....not long after you posted that the planes have a history of safe operation.

since the company’s horrific 1997 merger with McDonnell Douglas.
This is all i had to read to realize the article was going to be filled with accusations and conjecture....like employees leaving tools in the airplane's inerds....how old is this plane?
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