Hunte, Cameroon,Skerritt,Shallow. Worst Who?

Hunte...HPC, World Cup 2012,appointed Sammy as Skipper,Women team made good progress..2007-2013

Cameron..Players strike, Appointed Holder as captain, dismantle HPC, Franchise Regional cricket set up, All stars banished,Women team made good progress,World Cup T-20,World Cup under-19,Women T-20.....2013-2019

Skerritt..All star players back, Appointed Pollard Captain, Brathwaite test captain,last in 2021 t-20 World Cup,Failed to qualify 2022 t-20,failed automatic qualification..Appointed Pooran as Cappo, Appointed Hope cappo..2019-2023

Shallow..Appointed Sammy as coach, failed to qualify 2023 ODI World Cup, failed inT-20 World Cup,Appointed Sammy test coach, 27....Appointed Chase Cappo..in test..2023- present

Worst Who???

In reply to Onionman0

hunte, hillaire and de big idiot set the stage. the worst were the lucian mooks though. they 2nd string teams first started under them

Whoever decided the ‘boys’ were akin to slaves and they the ‘Masters’, mishandled the whole club v country situation.

Created an adversarial environment hiding behind pseudo intellectual legalese.

The set-up in the Caribbean wasn’t ready for football-styled managers and agents and the outside world of franchise cricket.

And nobody was willing to admit they needed education and dialogue.

In reply to Jumpstart

Basis for your argument? Is it that each administration lacks its own vision?

What scale do you use to rate each?

the next one is always the worse.

Same with all things WI cricket.

Captain, coach, selector, commentators

In reply to Halliwell

so no blame should redound to Dinas who wanted to become a big union bossman like his mentor David Abdulah, who BTW is a well known trade union leader?

In reply to sudden


Yes TT has trade unions, not militaristic servitude like a certain island in the atlantic

In reply to InHindsight

i don't see any positive legacy of the hunte hillaire combo. at least under dunns river moron, the pitches regionally improved. the legacy of tje WI hydra is the destruction of ramnaresh sarrwan's test career, the destruction of dwayne bravo's test career, the destruction of the last great West Indian captain's tenure when his team was about to take off. the exiling of Brendan Nash who was a very solid lower middle order batsman. They in their seemingly insurmountable stupidity crashed a team that was clearly improving(first team to not lose a test series in nz in 13 years, first team to win a test in SA, drawing a sri lanka series we were widely expected to lose, with Ramnaresh Sarwan scoring one of the best centuries you will ever see against world class spin on a turning track, winning the wisden trophy for the first time in 11 years, winning an odi series in england for the first time in 23 years). this was followed by the legacy of players chosen to captain(floyd and Sammy) and the selection of under strength teams. Any test side from 2009-2015 that did not include sarwan, gayle, dwayne bravo, denesh ramdin, chris gayle, darren bravo and jerome taylor was a 2nd string side. And chris gayle was the first test captain since Clive to unite the team under one banner. yes not even viv accomplished that

In reply to Jumpstart

quite telling that you were triggered when that post was not addressed to you

nevertheless, your submission, such that it is, did not make contact with anything i posted

In reply to sudden


militaristic servitude

In reply to Jumpstart

what does that mean? give an example, a territory where it applies and show how that pertains to what i said?,

In reply to sudden

militaristic servitude

In reply to Jumpstart

militaristic servitude

As my friend Sudden asked- please explain the above.

In reply to tc1

militaristic servitude

My explanation.

Militaristic servitude often emphasizes obedience, discipline, and a rigid hierarchy—elements that, while distinct from outright slavery, still raise important questions about personal liberty and the extent of state (or institutional) control over the individual. This dynamic was especially prominent in West Indies cricket before the formation of the West Indies Players’ Association (WIPA). Dinas, recognizing the need for change, sought to champion players’ rights and bring their marketing value to the forefront. However, his efforts were met with resistance from the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB), which withheld player remittances destined for WIPA for years in an attempt to undermine the association. It’s important to note that Dinas’s motivation was never to harm West Indies cricket but rather to liberate it from the lingering plantation mentality that characterized the WICB’s approach to governance.

P.S....You need to have better intellectual friends.

In reply to sudden

Mr. Sudden Sir, this'll will be long! Was Ernest Hilaire a union leader, did he as did Williams, Bustamante, Manley, Barrow, and many other Caribbean leaders, enter national politics via Trade Union leadership? Unlike the others, did he not boast that his HR bona fides made him ideal for the CEO post? And yet, even before becoming CEO he disparaged players by calling them illiterate! Worse, while the selectors were standing up to the board to ensure Ganga who could not make the ODI XI as a player not be appointed cappo, Hilaire, not yet in the CEO chair said Gayle should not be captain (newly appointed capt. Sarwan was injured).
Nice start for an HR expert eh? The very first time any WI player refused a central contract was because Hilaire entered into the contract document the poisin pill that said as a retained player if not on WI duties players had to play local club cricket. That'd be like telling Gary Sobers circa '60-'70s you cannot go to Northants you have to stay home and play BCL division 1. The ill-informed, arrogant, ignorance of such a stance opened the door for players to walk away from WI cricket and prioritize their franchises. Imagine a self proclaimed HR PhD is the person who created the template for player/mgt discord and the means for our best players not consistently representing the team. And, the attitude of the board and mgt thereafter is what the late great George Carlin would describe as them behaving as if everything was just F%$# Dandy! The man knew nothing about sports mgt and was too arrogant to learn.

In reply to sudden

Elections should be free, fair and free from fear!!

In reply to Brerzerk

I'm not sure trade unions are very popular in barbados. they've never had a strong trade union movement. hence his derision for the institution. he can link this post to my comment on militarized servitude

In reply to Brerzerk

if that was a response to what i asked Not Dinas, it was disappointing

if it was a rehash of the history of certain events under review, it was one sided

if it was neither, or all encompassing, it was unfortunate

In reply to Jumpstart




you are an ass

that notwithstanding, you still havent addressed what i asked

In reply to sudden


militaristic servitude

In reply to sudden

You may think the players weren't accommodating enough and that may be a fair point. But, please address what is the central reason that led to players and their attorneys getting to the stage where they considered refusing central contracts prudent. Should a professional cricketer/sportsperson be restricted from plying their trade when they have no games to play for you? Bro, I've seen one of the great Caribbean Industrial Relations expert (Trini-Yardie George Phillip) at work. As powerful as he was he knew when to hold, when to fold, when to walk away...something Hilaire was too arrogant to countenance.

In reply to Brerzerk



did he indulge in militaristic servitude? if so, can you explain what it means

more to whatever point you are trying to make, Dinas, WIPA and the players were also responsible for a lot of what went on around that period. like WICB they cannot be absolved of blame even in your revisionist history

In reply to sudden

Prior to Hilaire did a single player miss a single WI match because of franchise, did any refuse a contract? Man disturb ants next he couldn't put back together. IR is not all hardball.

In reply to Onionman0

Worst by far: Skerritt - I am still unsure whether he was genuinely interested in the job; perhaps he used it as a stepping stone to something better.
Bad: Shallow - Has fallen prey to the misguided advice of particular Academics and Politicians. Is using the job as a stepping stone to become a PM?

In reply to Jumpstart

Thanks to hunt and Hilliard for putting together the world cup teams of 2012 &2016.
Now Shallow has brought back cricket to Jamaica.