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Nicky Poo fined 20% of his match fee

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Jumpstart 9/18/25, 9:38:19 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

That means nothing homes. I have a relative who’s married to a French woman of Malagasy descent. He can barely speak French and he knows almost nothing about Madagascar
Narper 9/18/25, 9:39:51 PM
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In reply to pariaman

Explain dat....doesn't make any sense to me
his assignment??? whose assignment? who gave an assignment?
Jumpstart 9/18/25, 9:41:43 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

Because every nation has problems genius. And Trinidad compared to most nations has had it very good for a very long time, better than every English speaking territory in the region, Guyana included and better than virtually every country in the hemisphere, USA and Canada excluded
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Narper 9/18/25, 9:46:00 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart
Your posts are pathetic...full of self importance .only based on where you were born....full of ignorance.....devoid of knowledge and facts....

That in my book makes you are a BIG DUNCE
Jumpstart 9/18/25, 9:47:26 PM
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In reply to Narper

Well counter it seeing that you’re supposedly the doyen of knowledge on Trinidad and Tobago, living standards historically in the western hemisphere, political stability etc
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Narper 9/18/25, 10:07:22 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Put it this way son....I went to UWI and l lived/worked in Trinidad when it was paradise indeed....20 of the best years of my life ....now living in Canada for a few decades.

BtW...the turning point in t&t is when Abu Bakr tried a coup to take over the country on July 27, 1990. I recently found a police permission for me to be on de roads in trinidad during the curfew which followed
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voiceofreason 9/18/25, 10:12:25 PM
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In reply to anthonyp

Utter nonsense! A tap on the shoulder! Don't worry we go deal with him tomorrow night!!!
Narper 9/18/25, 10:22:25 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

I believe the apology to the ump at the end of the match and at the presentation influenced the penalty.

I give him much credit for this...as he said emotion in the heat of the moment...recognizing he made a big blunder even before speaking to anyone else... and so he apologized
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pariaman 9/18/25, 10:25:55 PM
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In reply to Narper

I wonder if the umpire apologized for his terrible job or did he in fact do his assignment well
Narper 9/18/25, 10:32:55 PM
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In reply to pariaman
the ump may have apologized...it did look like a short cordial interaction at the end of the match.

I posed a few simple questions to you which you ignored.
Did you watch the match?
Did you see 3 wrong decisions against Pooran?
What assignment are you talking about?
sgtdjones 9/18/25, 10:56:14 PM
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In reply to Narper

Trinis and the Comfort of Excuses

Bring up crime in Trinidad and Tobago, and watch what happens. Almost like clockwork, someone will say: “But Jamaica worse… America worse… crime everywhere.”This isn’t insight. It’s avoidance. It’s national self-soothing. And let’s call it for what it really is: excuses dressed up as conversation.Because here’s the hard truth — Trinidad and Tobago has one of the highest murder rates in the world for a country its size That’s not something you wash away by pointing at Chicago news clips or Mexico headlines. A killing in Kingston or Miami does not make a killing in Port of Spain less real, less brutal, or less of a failure of state and society.

But Trinis love the comparison game because it does two things. First, it shields pride — nobody likes to admit their beloved island is drowning in violence. Second, it protects the politicians — because as long as people keep shouting “other countries bad too,” leaders are free to shrug, dodge, and manage crime with band-aids instead of surgery. The deflection helps everyone except the victims and the communities trapped in fear.Let’s be honest: this culture of whataboutism has become part of the problem. It breeds apathy. It normalizes dysfunction. It numbs urgency. And, maybe worst of all, it compares T&T downward — as if being less bad than the worst should be the national aspiration.

Imagine applying that logic to anything else: would you excuse a failing school because another one scored lower? Would you trust a crumbling hospital because another country’s healthcare is worse? Of course not. But somehow, with crime, the bar keeps dropping lower and lower.Trinidad and Tobago doesn’t suffer because crime “happens everywhere.” It suffers because too many people, from the streets to the Cabinet, have grown comfortable explaining it away instead of fixing it.

And so long as we keep reaching for foreign examples as an emotional crutch, the murders will keep stacking, the gangs will keep recruiting, and the cycle will keep tightening its chokehold on the future.At some point, Trinis will have to decide: do we want to live in a real country, or in a string of excuses?
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sgtdjones 9/18/25, 11:01:04 PM
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In reply to Narper

Narps....

I have been reading Jumpy's postings lately, and some of his responses don't make sense.
Instead of focusing on the gist of the topic, he wanders.
His wandering makes his rebuttal irrelevant.
I noticed such on one of my threads about the CPL and was surprised.
Thus stopping my discussion.

Off to the gym...
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Jumpstart 9/18/25, 11:01:43 PM
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In reply to Narper

not into politics patnas. for all the proponents of poverty is an excuse for crime......trinidad's economy grew by 7 percent in 2008. we had the second highest murder rate in our history then. Trinidad and Tobago, like other jurisdictions in this region has an issue with the rule of law and enforcing the rule of law. to me it all comes down to your home environment and what kind of values your parents inculcate in you. If you have people who teach their children that money is the be all and end all or that having innumerable children without a stable male influence, and you don't think anything is wrong with that....then you will always have a society with powerful currents of indiscipline
Jumpstart 9/18/25, 11:10:35 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

dude you were arguing that the IPL had the highest standards of umpiring in the t20 circuit......i pointed out that not even Indian citizens thought so, with two umpires, nitin menon and c shamshuddin's performances coming in for specific criticism. you said the ipl organizers wouldn't put an inexperienced man to umpire a knockout game. I pointed out that Nitin Menon was umpire in the 2019 final, a full year before he was appointed to the the ICC elite panel, which was the first time the organizers did not use an umpire in the final who currently served on the elite panel or served at an earlier time. and his performance again came in for criticism. up to 2019, the finals were officiated by people like S Ravi, member of the elite panel from 2015-2017, richard illingworth, kumar dharmasena, Marais Erasmus etc. all who were members of the elite panel......a trend which stooped for some reason in 2019. I also pointed out that 59 games into the 80 matches that comprised the 2017 tournament, 29 wrong umpiring decisions were made, something i think has never happened in the cpl, even in its embryonic years
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Narper 9/18/25, 11:48:43 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

....trinidad's economy grew by 7 percent in 2008. we had the second highest murder rate in our history then. Trinidad and Tobago, like other jurisdictions in this region has an issue with the rule of law and enforcing the rule of law. to me it all comes down to your home environment and what kind of values your parents inculcate in you. If you have people who teach their children that money is the be all and end all or that having innumerable children without a stable male influence, and you don't think anything is wrong with that....then you will always have a society with powerful currents of indiscipline.

Sounds too academic..ish....school paper of yours? Not wrong...
I have been a professor in Toronto for over 20 years...albeit in the pharmaceutical field.....but I know how students write or think....or try to express what they have read ....
Take it when I tell you I know Trinidad....culture and politics...I literally rubbed shoulders with the some Ministers of the NAR government....Basdeo Panday at the union level....others like Suraj Rambachan , Bhoendradatt Tiwari. the late Brindley Samaroo..the great Winston Dookeran....and more
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powen001 9/18/25, 11:49:01 PM
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In reply to anthonyp

I am more concerned for Nickys poor choice of responses as a Leader.

I am glad he thought it through and apologized


I sincerely hope he digests these immature and less than professional outburst and reflect.

The world has seen how he reacts and no doubt...men will know how to get under his skin when they play against him.

Lets hope he ...matures.
Jumpstart 9/19/25, 12:04:51 AM
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In reply to Narper

I've only mentioned what is widely available data. the latter part is an observation. trinidad barely had crime in the late 1980s and we were broke, broke enough to have to go to the imf. in 2008, clearly we were rich with the start of billions of dollars in transfers and subsidies given to the population and we were overridden by crime. on the point of the state not supporting citizens, $301.94 billion of the half a trillion dollars spent as budgetary expenditure between 2010-2020, across two different administrations, was dedicated to transfers and subsidies and yet still crime exploded
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Narper 9/19/25, 12:05:16 AM
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In reply to powen001

Pow...some of us here have been rooting for Nicky Poo since he was a teenager...he blasted Warriors all over the place as a 16 year old......I saw his innings of 143 in the U19 WC live on live streaming....I asked for him all tru his recovery from the car accident....Proud of him when he returned and started to make him name....he is a masterful batsman...one of the cleanest hitter in world cricket today....If I criticize Nicky Poo today...it does not come from a place of hate.

Pouty is his mentor...and for good reason.....but Pouty is Pouty...and he gets away with a lot but it is always staged and he is always in control of what he is doing...I don't recall Pouty every being fined or reprimanded....

Nicky Poo is a man of Jesus...he knew his reaction to a poor decision by the ump was not right
natty_forever 9/19/25, 1:09:05 AM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Was any of those ended up, being given out?
natty_forever 9/19/25, 1:12:17 AM
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Because from where I was watching, he lost it for the 1 ball left in the over. Poo knows he has DRS, he being one who has benefitted from the "great education" TnT provides. Pity a cannot say the same for the TiTs here.
sgtdjones 9/19/25, 1:22:33 AM
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Jumpy....

The real issue here isn’t just a few bad calls. It’s the CPL’s decision-making at the management level.

In any established league, playoff games are entrusted to the most experienced, battle-tested umpires: professionals who have the judgment and composure to handle the pressure. These are matches where one mistake can overshadow the entire competition.

Yet the CPL, in a baffling move, appointed a rookie umpire to a playoff. Predictably, errors happened. It’s not the rookie’s fault; he should never have been placed in that position in the first place.

This kind of decision reflects the broader problem: CPL’s weak, inconsistent management. Other leagues protect their credibility by avoiding these blunders. CPL has once again highlighted its lack of foresight and professionalism.

Until leadership starts treating these moments with the seriousness they demand, the league will keep undermining itself.
natty_forever 9/19/25, 1:24:41 AM
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In reply to sgtdjones

Even though up to then this was arguably the best CPL by far?
natty_forever 9/19/25, 1:25:38 AM
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With DRS there to provide support, you'll flogging this bouy!
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sgtdjones 9/19/25, 1:31:57 AM
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In reply to natty_forever

Natty

I only watched games that TKR played, so I cannot give an opinion.

Would like to see a CWI team included , it would bud future prospects.

Thus my notation about CPL management.
natty_forever 9/19/25, 1:36:43 AM
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In reply to sgtdjones

I not getting involved in fowl fight.
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