HEADLINE: WICB 'frustrated' by Bravo damages claim

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link CaribbeanCricket.com Joined: Mar 6, 2003
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4/21/17 7:12:14 AM 

Bravo, who has not played for West Indies since he was sent home from Zimbabwe in November 2016 following his criticism of board president, Dave Cameron, is claiming lost earnings of around USD120,000 based upon what he could have made from ODIs against Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka, BPL and PSL contracts, and regional Caribbean competitions.

The claim has come as a surprise to officials at WICB who believed they were on the verge of a reconciliation with Bravo. They are also surprised at the suggestion he was prevented from playing in the BPL or PSL as no application for an NOC (no objection certificate) was made ahead of either tournament and, when Bravo did apply for such a certificate ahead of the IPL, it was granted immediately.

"It is true that Darren has initiated legal action against us," WICB chief executive Johnny Grave told ESPNcricinfo. "It has come as a surprise as I was under the impression we had agreed a way back for him. I'm very disappointed and yes, a bit frustrated."


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link Walco Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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4/21/17 7:28:19 AM 
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shock shock shock

link NewsJunkie Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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4/21/17 8:05:00 AM 
All the players should be thanking Darren for making a stand and setting a precedent on this. No longer can the WICB goons just toy with a player's career based on their whims and egos, without tangible consequences.

Don't give in Bravo. Make them pay - at least a token amount.

link silver Joined: Dec 6, 2011
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4/21/17 8:13:43 AM 
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When you go around suing people, other people will be reluctant to hire you. I would not pop the champagne bottle yet

link kingie Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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4/21/17 8:15:49 AM 
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Lil Bravo has decided to burn all the bridges to become a Franchise T20 gun for hire.......

link CricketLuva4 Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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4/21/17 8:21:20 AM 
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But he doesn't even get game.

link NewsJunkie Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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4/21/17 8:38:46 AM 
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When an organization goes around denigrating its main asset - and then suspends them for rightly taking issue with it - they will find that it becomes very difficult to maintain a proper working relationship with those assets. The 'massa' attitude that the WICB has with its players is 110% wrong. And needs to called out and corrected.

As an Indian fan, I'm mystified how the caribbean fans find the behavior of their board defensible. Bravo is 100% right in taking a stand. Players are not serfs that board suits can insult them on twitter and expect them to salute and maintain decorum. In what world is it acceptable for a Board official to cut Bravo's salary and publicly insult him? Sure, Bravo lost his temper and went a bit too far. But why should he be harshly punished, while the initiator of the idiocy gets away scot-free?

If Dave Cameron was a man, he would publicly retract his comments and take ownership of his mistake. Not try to bury the issue and move on as if nothing happened. But Cameron is a 2-bit gangster in a suit - he thinks he's the star of the show - the great "CEO" who is setting up Caribbean cricket, and "He" can do no wrong. Bullshit. Where is the accountability?

All you crabs and lemmings are too quick to blame your players - and maybe a bit of blame is deserved - but the board is the villain for West Indies cricket - and the sooner the board is reformed, or at least purged, the better it is for you guys.

As a kid, I grew up fearing the West Indies Cricket team. As an adult, I still enjoy their flair and innate talent - the once in a blue moon it shows up on a cricket field anyway. But I'm just tired of waiting for this team to become competitive and be one of the top 4 teams in the world. There is something very glitchy with the matrix when Bangladesh is a better side than the West Indies.

link positiveg Joined: Mar 29, 2007
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4/21/17 8:59:32 AM 
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The thing is did bravo sue while they were offering him a way back?
A judge will have to decide this. Plus he'll have to prove that they cost him loss of revenues for those T20 leagues he mentioned, which most likely will mean having to state if they held back from granting him an NOC.
If he loses he could be out of cricket for a longer time, cause his ego might still not make him want to play for the team having lose against the admin of the team
If he wins doubt he'll get $120k, cause he really has to show that 1 even if he was selected for WI would he be in the playing XI, most likely, but still would he have gotten his asking price and played in the matches of the T20 leagues.
Still though can't blame him for the move he made, I just think it's funny especially seeing that from since Graves been hired that he said he and bravo was in discussion on a way back.

link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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4/21/17 9:08:39 AM 
Dats it lil B the big Ediot could have easily said he made an error in reporting your retainers but oh nooooo typical stupidity of this Administration dem wrang and strong.

Sue dem rass

WICB gats a procedure to discipline players and a system to do so.They did not comply to such .Pybus is gorne now the rest must face legal action.

Go after the T&TCB also they prevented you from being selected.

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link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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4/21/17 9:09:58 AM 
Bravo has a case.

And is doing the right thing.

This was handled poorly by the WICB

link Baje Joined: Dec 10, 2002
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4/21/17 9:14:49 AM 
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Well if they were making a way back for him, and he did not want a way back, then he had to hurry up and sue before the way could be found.
Anyway good luck to him

link mikesiva Joined: Jan 12, 2007
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4/21/17 9:16:21 AM 
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I don't find the behaviour of the wicb defensible. I think you will find a lot of Caribbean fans support bravo in his battle against the wicb. The problem is did bravo and the wicb follow the proper procedure.

A court of law will decide that.

link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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4/21/17 9:19:54 AM 
"It is true that Darren has initiated legal action against us," WICB chief executive Johnny Grave told ESPNcricinfo. "It has come as a surprise as I was under the impression we had agreed a way back for him. I'm very disappointed and yes, a bit frustrated."


I was hoping this newbie Grave had a bit of grey matter.Lil B is suspended and he frustrated..say what ???

Who agreed to a way back for lil B?
If he is taking the CWI to court obviously he didnt.!!!!!

How long has lil B been suspended?
You mean it takes this long to solve this problem where the President made errors in his statement.

You mean Cameron hasn't got the guts to say oh Geeezee I made an error.

The T&TCB noted that he will not be selected since he is under suspension.

Who suspended him? Was it Pybus?

Is Pybus on the disciplinary committee?
If such occurred was lil B allowed to defend himself before such clowns?

Sue dem ras lil B, show Cameron you gats balls.

Dinas will be running the T&TCB soon, you will have support.

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link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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4/21/17 9:37:13 AM 
"I just want what is best for West Indies cricket," Grave said. "And having the best players available is part of that. Of course a player of Darren's experience would be an asset.

"I thought everything was agreed with his legal advisors. We didn't want this to play out publicly but yes, it is true, his attorney is asking for damages and West Indies supporters deserve an explanation as to why he is not in the squad in Jamaica.


West Indies supporters deserve an explanation as to why he is not in the squad in Jamaica


Hello Grave, some idiot at the WICB suspended lil B, dats why he not in the squad?
Ya gats dat !!!


Then get the big Ediot to shut his mouth or get facts before speaking .

link positiveg Joined: Mar 29, 2007
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4/21/17 9:42:26 AM 
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Grave seems to be handling things in the most professional way, in front the camera behind the camera I hope it's the same.
It's a pity he has to deal with this so early in his tenure, but DC stubborn so, a so it goes.

link NewsJunkie Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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4/21/17 9:43:08 AM 
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This is an unsubtle way of blaming Darren Bravo for his non-selection in the current Test series. The WICB keep proving that they will keep on throwing players under the bus by using any and all means at their disposal. No wonder the players don't trust the WICB. The board is supposed to protect the interests of the fans, the sport and the players. Not attack them and then blame them.

link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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4/21/17 9:51:58 AM 
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Have you ever seen where the WICB supports or protect them.

Ask Lara, Shiv, and Sars

WICB prefers to crucify its players.

link Star Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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4/21/17 9:57:26 AM 
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The WICB did not follow the proper procedure plain and simple.

The other problem for the WICB is that they cannot draw inference from a vague expression.

Tweeting "Big Idiot" is not sufficient cause for draconian action against the tweeter.

If Mr.Bravo had tweeted "Dave Cameron is a big idiot" or "the President of the WICB is a big idiot", then he would be on shaky ground.

The problem with the WICB is that the people sailing that ship react foolishly to trivial issues and seek legal advice after the damage is done.

link nick2020 Joined: Jul 2, 2012
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4/21/17 10:04:44 AM 
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Well then what? Sue and win $120K. Retire from West Indies cricket?

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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4/21/17 10:07:12 AM 
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Will he be any worse off if he does.

Which of the players that have retired are?

link DIEHARD Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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4/21/17 10:07:13 AM 
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Will he be any worse off if he does.

Which of the players that have retired are?

link NewsJunkie Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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4/21/17 10:07:24 AM 
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Every chance of a Judge declaring that "big idiot" is an appropriate response to Cameron's idiocy in tweeting about Bravo's contract downgrade, as well as the hasty, illegal suspension that followed. WICB's lawyers know that Bravo has a very strong case - hence the conciliatory sounds. If the WICB had 5% of a brain, they would settle this quickly with Bravo - issue a public apology and a private settlement with the amount not being announced, and move on from this shameful episode.


But then that would go against the Big Ego and suits before sport ethos of the current pack of goons running the WICB.

link NewsJunkie Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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4/21/17 10:09:18 AM 
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Sue them. Win damages. And if they keep this foolhardy attitude of not selecting him, sue them again. Bravo's eligibility and worthiness for selection in the test team is clear-cut.

Only way forward is for the WICB to make amends with Bravo - make a public apology, settle the suit. Its the right thing to do. $120k is peanuts, he should be suing for a lot more than that.

link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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4/21/17 10:12:24 AM 
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Your comments show you are using ur grey matter and common sense

Now WICB gats none of such attributes.

This is why lil B is in India and not jamaica.

link Kay Joined: Feb 1, 2015
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4/21/17 10:15:42 AM 
Man hold alyuh collective horses. De man sue which is his prerogative, the matter is in the hands of a court of law now ... let's await the outcome.

In the interim I am wagering that he will get nothing. Any takers can contact me with the amount they are willing and can afford to part with.... $US only please smile

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