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2025 Concacaf Gold Cup

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Cricket_101 6/17/25, 3:46:11 AM
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debut: 2/15/11
4,994 runs

In reply to Chrissy

Hope yardies can win this…
HumbleCalf 6/17/25, 3:47:54 AM
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debut: 1/9/07
11,980 runs

This is very disappointing. Not sure if the coach should be fired but something wrong
FanAttick 6/17/25, 3:48:41 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
64,498 runs

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Isaac Hayden is missed big time
FanAttick 6/17/25, 3:55:58 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
64,498 runs

Guatemala 1, Jamaica 0 (HT)
Gun_Play 6/17/25, 4:04:57 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
4,579 runs

Jamaica isn't pressing as a collective unit.
Some guys press while some aren't even marking their player up front. That needs some adjustment.
Also, Guatemala is pressing when JA gets in the midfield. Then JA defense just beats the ball up field because there's no outlet pass.
Wingers out wide would counter this, but JA wingers are too far up field when the defense has the ball.
The wingers need to stay close and as wide a possible to beat the press.
Still lots of time to play.
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Gun_Play 6/17/25, 4:22:10 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
4,579 runs

JA left winger isn't showing for the ball when Guatemala press, he needs to subbed off.

It's making the defense play the ball through the middle, which hardly works if the opposition is pressing together
FanAttick 6/17/25, 5:02:09 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
64,498 runs

Guatemala 1, Jamaica 0 (FT)

Terrible game..McLaren should be sacked
HumbleCalf 6/17/25, 5:05:30 AM
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debut: 1/9/07
11,980 runs

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Fire everyone, this was horrible!!!
HumbleCalf 6/17/25, 5:06:54 AM
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debut: 1/9/07
11,980 runs

The worst thing is that they were all afraid to hold the ball in the first half. I have never seen anything like it.
HumbleCalf 6/17/25, 5:08:25 AM
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debut: 1/9/07
11,980 runs

Joe, I will help with the grading:
Coach 0/10
Blake 9/10
Others 1/10
JoeGrine 6/17/25, 5:32:38 AM
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debut: 2/15/09
5,015 runs

JAMAICA - GUATEMALA

1) Hubert - I hope this arrived quickly.
2) Formation = 4-2-3-1
3) Coach McLaren (like sammy) is an outright idiot.
4) McLaren is not interested in putting the best product on the field, he is interested in ALWAYS playing Bailey-Gray and Lowe irrespective of their form and or value in the formation and the drop off in creativity it leads to.
5) How can you come to a tourney with just one recognized CDM. Is this to ensure that Lowe plays? It is a tourney not a one-off game.
6) How can you come to a tourney with no midfielder who can unlock defenses. Can some journalist ask the idiotic coach what exactly is his problem with Ravel Morrison? For the first 10 minutes of the game. Guatemala ran roughshod over us and it was not until Pinnock steadied things that we finally looked somewhat decent. McLAREN YOU BETTER SING A SANKEY AND GO GET RAVEL MORRISON FOR THE SEPTEMBER WINDOW, YOU CLOWN!
7) I did warn that against better teams our midfield would let us down. Gray is not a midfielder, sit his posterior down or have him start over your other favorite son Bailey if he must play.
8 ) The Guatemala team tonight was a higher quality outfit than the one we beat 3-0 last week in Kingston.

GK : BLAKE (8.5) - two brilliant saves and blameless on the goal.
LB : BELL (6.0) - started shakily but gave yeoman service across the backline. As usual, doesn't offer much going forward.
CB : LOWE (4.0) - there are four things to look forward to when Lowe plays (1) "outta-mi-life" kicks (2) cane cutter tackles resulting in cards (3) feet airborne to make tackles (4) wayward passes. He has no business on the field during an international game save emergency situation; McLaren, however, is afraid to sit him.
CB : PINNOCK (7.0) - was steady and made some defense opening passes. He was the one responsible for the slowing down of the game ten minutes in with Guatemala running roughshod over us. He also did a lot of aerials clearances but missed a header on goal in the dying minutes.
RB : LATIBEAUDIERE (5.0) - Perhaps I am being generous here. I would take a Lembikisa over him any day. The word is that right back reinforcement is, thankfully, coming in September.
CDM : KING (5.5) - a victim of the Gray, Bailey and Lowe must start regimen of the coach. He is not a CDM, especially at this level. For me, King starts in central defence with Pinnock, Lowe can go suck on a lollipop if he doesn't like it.
M : RUSSELL (5.0) - I have always said he is too ungainly to be starting on a serious international team. He proved it tonight, being relatively invisible or making clumsy tackles throughout the game.
LW : CEPHAS (5.5) - he is being found out. Just field a speedy wing back, and pull a midfielder to assist, and Cephas is blunted. He will have to develop more tricks to be effective.
CAM : GRAY (4.5) - a waste of time and space in the CAM position. McLaren, you are a doofus. This is top-level CONCACAF stuff, not St Vincent or BVI. Gray plays out wide or not at all. Of course, you deliberately kept Morrison out of your squad to run this trick of Gray at the #10 in CONCACAF, it naw go wuk. There were no creative passes, no coming back to impose himself on the game.
RW : BAILEY (4.5) - at one point during the second half, I totally forgot he was on the field, that is the kind of comment you reserve for a goalkeeper or referee. Yet, it is the best I can say about Bailey's "performance" tonight. Thankfully, help is on the way, however, given McLaren's penchant for starting Lowe, Bailey, and Gray, I say....interesting days ahead.
F : BROWN (5.0) - what can you expect when your providers are Gray, Russell, and Bailey. This was not BVI or the Guatemala B team that we beat last week.
COACH = -100 -

SUBSTITUTIONS
RB : LEMBIKISA (6.0) - brought industry to the right side of the field, and his excellent cross to Pinnock should have brought about the equalizer. Until better comes, stay with Lembikisa. In fact, McLaren was admitting error by aborting the King as CDM nonsense at half-time.
CAM: PALMER (5.0) - a very poor man's Ravel Morrison, he was not accurate in his passes, and defensively, he was a total liability. I hope McLaren doesn't roll this out on us in September. Teams will be waiting to capitalize on Palmer's jogging back in defense not to tackle (if he does the occasional tackle, it results in a foul) but to watch the proceedings. McLaren should be arrested for having Palmer, "Busy" Anderson, Daniel Green in a squad. and Ravel Morrison sitting at home. Palmer's 50th minute sub for Gray confirms what I have been preaching, and McLaren's substitution admitted to - - Gray is a failure as a CAM.
ANTONIO - The national team is not for locals to clamour to "buss a yute," and likewise, the national team is not a place for players to come regain playing shape. McLaren are you this stupid or hell bent on keeping out certain players so Antonio and Reid who are both medically unsound, can get in the squad ahead of able-bodied players? Of course, Antonio proceeded to show he was as rusty as a weather beaten nail on a rooftop.
BURRELL - didn't do anything of note.

Looking beyond the Gold Cup:
1. McLaren sing that Sankey.
2. Grow some cojones and tell the local coaches only Ming, King,Brown and Davis are good enough. Stop wasting roster spots to "buss" youths.
3. Build your team around - Blake, RB (Aarons?) - King, Pinnock, LB (Henry?)-- Hayden, Morrison, Baker - - Mothersille, Brown, Greenwood(?)
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JoeGrine 6/17/25, 5:33:36 AM
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debut: 2/15/09
5,015 runs

In reply to HumbleCalf

Bwoy, you nah jesta.
HumbleCalf 6/17/25, 5:43:07 AM
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debut: 1/9/07
11,980 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

Dem deh marks too high. All ah dem except Blake need to hapologize to the Jamaican people.

I skipped most of the NBA to watch this, stuupes.
JoeGrine 6/17/25, 5:49:23 AM
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debut: 2/15/09
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Bwoy di eye sound bex, go kool off uself wid a kisko-pop.

Lek mi go recheck mi grades dem still.
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HumbleCalf 6/17/25, 5:50:20 AM
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debut: 1/9/07
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smile
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Castled 6/17/25, 6:07:00 AM
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debut: 8/21/22
1,359 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

Coach McLaren (like sammy) is an outright idiot.

lol lol
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XDFIX 6/17/25, 6:23:17 AM
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debut: 3/2/03
18,484 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

A review in which there is no fault - excellent take!

I called for the coach to resign a few weeks ago! I can't fathom why these coaches for the Jamaican team like to play players out of primary positions!
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imusic 6/17/25, 6:34:11 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
80,392 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

The Guatemala team tonight was a higher quality outfit than the one we beat 3-0 last week in Kingston

I was just going to ask if this wasn’t the same Guatemala team that Yard beat 3-0 to good reviews from one and all.

After that match, McLaren was praised so I’m surprised to see the comments (and the result today)
granite 6/17/25, 9:57:38 AM
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debut: 11/1/13
14,621 runs

Totally unexpected result but Yard will still go forward.
hubert 6/17/25, 11:16:17 AM
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debut: 11/14/02
19,927 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

Thank you ..thank you...I was wrapped up taking in another Birthday so missed everything.
But you have given me much to savour.
Jamaica's midfield has been a bugbear from all the games I have seen for the past four years.
I do not know what the coach is seeing but Gray is not a midfielder.
But he has to fix that major problem or the Boyz will not,even with a favourable group will not make
the WC.
Hope he works out the right personnel but I am just not optimistic. I saw where Guatemala made 9 changes from the team that lost 0-3 to Boyz.
Is the coach or assistants up to snuff with knowledge of opponents players..It is critical to know when they are engaging a B team or A team.
Scouting and pre knowledge is more than helpful.
But going forward ,I wish the Boyz best of luck and hope hopes the Coach present his best team to meet the challenges ahead. No team/country
is gonna roll over as intensity builds towards securing a spot in the WC Finals.
I don't at this stage feels the coach knows his own players and their capabilities enough. That will be his downfall.
FanAttick 6/17/25, 11:25:59 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
64,498 runs

Richard King is playing negative football…instead of advancing the ball when he has the opportunity he constantly does this passive lateral pass…no connection between him and the wingers and midfielders…Gray and Bailey and Brown were frustrated by the lack of service even when they made threatening runs to get in behind the Guatemala defense… Jamaica looked far better when King was substituted and Lembikisa came on….As much as King is hyped by the JPL baller advocates I personally don’t think he is ready for prime time ….it is not surprising that no team of substance has signed him….

We missed Holgate and Hayden..Damion Lowe is a red card waiting to happen…..
Prako 6/17/25, 12:06:00 PM
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debut: 10/10/16
1,459 runs

So far all the island countries have lost:
Dominican Republic lost to Mexico
Trinidad and Tobago lost to USA
Haiti lost to Saudi
Guadeloupe lost to Panama
Jamaica lost to Guatemela

Curaçao plays El Salvador tonight to try to break that trend as we round out the 1st Match for all teams tonight
Chrissy 6/17/25, 12:09:40 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
201,413 runs

A big flop
nitro 6/17/25, 12:17:48 PM
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debut: 4/10/03
17,579 runs

it was a horrible performance. McClaren was voted the worst England national team coach. I fear this idiot will be voted Jamaica's worst as well. The squad selection made no sense in the first place.
dayne 6/17/25, 1:01:58 PM
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debut: 5/29/07
8,735 runs

Guatemala had a good game plan, it looked like Jamaica could not make the adjustments to counteract
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