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JoeGrine 6/17/25, 1:37:06 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
4,908 runs

In reply to imusic

I was just going to ask if this wasn’t the same Guatemala team that Yard beat 3-0 to good reviews from one and all.

After that match, McLaren was praised so I’m surprised to see the comments (and the result today)


Just who are the one and all? The day McLaren hinted that Ravel Morrison (who is one of the best we have ever had in our footballing history) was not a part of his plan I lost respect for him.

McLaren, a JFF employee, sings for his supper so what you see on the field and in the squad is part JFF and part his antiquated biases. John Barnes could not work with JFF as he wouldn't succumb to their dictates, Coach Grimm, ditto.

I do not recall many here praising McLaren as you are intimating.
JoeGrine 6/17/25, 1:51:13 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
4,908 runs

In reply to hubert

Jamaica's midfield has been a bugbear from all the games I have seen for the past four years.
I do not know what the coach is seeing but Gray is not a midfielder.
But he has to fix that major problem or the Boyz will not,even with a favourable group will not make
the WC.


What the coach sees in Gray as a midfielder is twofold. (1) he gets to start (2) he keeps Ravel Morrison out of the team/squad.
Just take a look at the midfield last night:
Gray - lacks the ability to go back to the defense get/demand the ball and matriculate the ball up the field.
Russell - as nimble as an elephant on roller skates on an ice-rink.
Bailey - Mr. Put his head down and dribble into opponents, slips and lose the ball.
King - has no business being their. King works best when paired at center back with Pinnock throughout the game. Ray Charles can see that.
Cephas - ala Bailey hold head down and try run pass a defenda. To his credit, on a few occasion, he held his head up and crossed the ball.

With those four in midfield, how will Brown get the ball?

Hope he works out the right personnel but I am just not optimistic. I saw where Guatemala made 9 changes from the team that lost 0-3 to Boyz.
Is the coach or assistants up to snuff with knowledge of opponents players.


Everyone knew Guatemala prioritized the Gold Cup, having already advanced in the World Cup prelims. They served up a second rate team in Kingston last week. McLaren's response is to roll out the same pathetic Gray, Russell, Bailey, Cephas concoction. His dislike for Morrison, and the JFF wishes to "buss yutes" will prevent him from having a world class midfield. If the attacking players coming in are smart, they should ask themselves, who will service me with passes "Busy" Anderson, Palmer, Gray, Russell, Bailey, McCalla? Lord help us.
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