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michaelmax 8/9/25, 4:42:29 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
5,207 runs

In reply to 1Desiabnu

The PNP is the ONLY party that has PROGRESSED Jamaica and the JLP has ALWAYS been the drag. See Busta and the Federation. See Shearer, Walter Rodney and the Black Power movement. See Seaga and guns in Jamaica. See Seaga and the JLP and their collusion with foreign entities to destabilise the country in the 70s. We have YET to recover. Jamaica Social Welfare now SDC, allowing Black children to access primary school, land lease to farmers, free education, free health, the Independence Park complex, the NHT, the National Investment Fund, PATH, JADEP, NHF, JSIF, multiple schools, hospitals, Highway 2000, Portmore, Spanish hotel investment record FDI flows yrly up to 2007, 9.9% poverty rate by 2007, 3% growth by 2007, banking sector collapse but most depositors money saved, creating JDIC, FSC, expansion of the Port of Kingston, plans for Jamaica logistics hub, liberalisation of telecommunications & creation of the call centre industry, pushing animation under Julian Robinson, creating the Sports Development Foundation, Citizen Justice Programme which included helping young ppl to find work, Unite for Change( stopped by Labour- Chang wants to bring it back), helping fund the Reggae Boyz to France 98, creating the Jamaica Social Investment Fund(JSIF), expanding HEART to become the National Training Agency then known as HEART/NTA, creating the National Youth Service, creating the National Forensic Lab, investment in police vehicles & police telecommunications, purchase of Bell 412 EP helos which was then criticised but after one of those helos rescued stranded & hurt Blue Mountain hiker, bought the FIRST set of Bushmaster PMVs, bought the FIRST set of Damen Stan patrol vessels used by the Coast Guard among others. The PNP isn't perfect but I am NOT going to have ppl PRETEND the PNP has done nothing for Jamaica. In 2010, the JLP ABANDONED the IMF agreement and Jamaica was BROKE. In 2012 Portia Simpson-Miller went to the Congressional Black Caucus led by Maxine Waters to ask for their intervention with the IMF who were going to walk AWAY. THEY went to Lagarde. Dr. Peter David Phillips set about RESTORING Jamaica which he did with his team. This was ACKNOWLEDGED by the IMF, local private sector, the local & int'l financial press such that Phillips was Gleaner's man of the year in 2015 and we had the WORLD's BEST PERFORMING stock market. The work by Dr. Phillips was ACKNOWLEDGED by Dr. Nigel Clarke. Phillips ran Jamaica through a DIFFICULT IMF programme WITHOUT laying off a single public sector worker. All things JLP crowing about- the PNP LAID THE WICKET. Oh and did I mention that Percival Noel James Patterson PAID OFF the IMF and LEFT. We went back because Audley SCREWED UP not properly planning for the FALLOUT from the 2008 recession. No again, YOU not about to sweep PNP's successes and legacy under the rug.
michaelmax 8/9/25, 4:45:07 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to 1Desiabnu

RUBBISH. Inflation since COVID has been higher and the ONE thing the JLP has shown since 2007 that the ONLY thing which grows under their watch is CORRUPTION.
camos 8/9/25, 6:15:59 PM
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debut: 5/6/03
58,330 runs

Voters tend to remove underperforming government, rather than electing an opposition.
1Desiabnu 8/9/25, 7:20:25 PM
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debut: 10/20/07
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Again, I don’t care about either party, but the fact remains that crime is trending down a lot and that matters the most. Pnp accomplishments from 40 and 50 years ago are irrelevant.
michaelmax 8/9/25, 10:47:33 PM
Chrissy 8/9/25, 11:54:22 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
202,375 runs

In reply to michaelmax
Big mistake with the Federation.
hubert 8/10/25, 12:59:19 AM
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debut: 11/14/02
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The Jamaican people overwhelmingly rejected Federation, the British Colonialist construct that no benefit to
Jamaica who was to share the burden financially of upwards of 60 per cent for one thing.
It was the British way of cutting costs by pooling the Islands(BG was not included.) Why ????
It was their way too of maintaining relevance.

The Empire was bankrupt virtually as their main source of wealth dried up after the India
Independence. Britain was still on rations and only began to recover thru the Windrush .

Big Mistake ? You can't be serious. This was the fallen Empire that left the coffers of Jamaica, bare
at Independence. Mental slavery is a helluva thing.
It was the Jamaican people, being offered the referendum by Manley who voted to rid Federation from our mindset.
Had it been a wonderful thing the remaining 8 led by Barbados would have made it a success. But after a few years ,the reality
set in and they abandoned this Colonial Office venture. One big reason why Bim only gained Independence some 4 years
after Jamaica bid goodbye.
Politicians have been leading the people in their own brand of dependency and slavery. Republican status was mooted from
the later 60s in Jamaica and even when it was supported by both parties, the Queen and now King Charles are still in charge.

Despite this Jamaica has been a stellar factor in many areas on the International scene.And such Brand with unique Flag would
not have been birthed. Jamaica did not need Federation to accomplish anything. The problem the country has is with stained and
corrupt and dumbed down leadership from JLP governments.
Long live Independence and a Jamaica to the World on its own even if all its potential is to be fulfilled.
Mistake ? Eric Williams was always right.

And Caricom is so successful lol
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michaelmax 8/10/25, 3:41:13 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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Leaving this here with no comment.
Chrissy 8/10/25, 1:09:01 PM
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Chrissy 8/10/25, 8:14:31 PM
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Rain falling - sporadic lightning and thunder.
Gorge closed after bauxite train derailed yesterday.
Rally is 4.00pm Yard time in HWT. Not good omens.
Chrissy 8/10/25, 8:46:33 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
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Nuff showers at this timeIn reply to michaelmax
michaelmax 8/10/25, 9:01:40 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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I noticed. Been raining by me too. And I knew if it was raining here I knew HWT would have rain. Just under 3 yrs and I hear the thunder
Chrissy 8/10/25, 9:34:21 PM
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Rain thunder and lightning. Showers!
Chrissy 8/10/25, 11:12:07 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
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Yuh heard dat clap of thunder and saw dat lightning. Not good
rudebway 8/10/25, 11:19:21 PM
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debut: 7/29/09
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Yuh heard dat clap of thunder and saw dat lightning. Not good



Holness reading from the book of Revelations ��
Chrissy 8/10/25, 11:43:50 PM
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In reply to rudebway

Rain stopped but still lightning and thunder
XDFIX 8/10/25, 11:55:18 PM
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debut: 3/2/03
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Dem fly the gate yet?
Chrissy 8/11/25, 12:20:52 AM
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debut: 11/14/02
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Will post as soon as they do. I seh sometime between September 3 and 12
michaelmax 8/11/25, 12:35:36 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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Hold on, isn't it 16- 23 clear days. Those 16- 23 days don't include weekends?
Chrissy 8/11/25, 3:33:30 AM
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debut: 11/14/02
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In reply to michaelmax
August 18. Nomination Day
Election Day. September 3
ponderiver 8/11/25, 6:24:13 AM
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debut: 1/27/04
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In reply to hubert

that once prosperous Parish when Banana
was King and being shipped from Oracabessa and added to a coconut factory at nearby Jacks River that produced soap,oil and other things,
for years i spent my summers in Jacks River I used to go to that factory and pick up copra and swim in the nearby river and catch crayfish

I did not know you were a St Mary man
I know the area well from Jacks River to Port Maria , Days Mountain ,Hamilton mountain, Brooklyn, Dressikie , Kid Land and all the banana walks in between

walking between the banana walks at night with a bokkle lamp and listening to the elders telling duppy stories it was not for the faint hearted
JayMor 8/11/25, 3:45:38 PM
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debut: 12/15/02
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In reply to ponderiver
...listening to the elders telling duppy stories it was not for the faint hearted

You can say that again! A yute head use to grow big. LOL.

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Chrissy 8/11/25, 4:20:02 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
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In reply to 1Desiabnu
Do they count di scamming or car stealing?
The biggest miss shooting in years was last year.
Saturday night a Mobay cop, his wife and son were shot over a car deal. Wife and five year old dead - husband fighting fi life.
hubert 8/11/25, 5:49:57 PM
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debut: 11/14/02
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In reply to ponderiver

Yes Sir. St Mary born and bred..the places you were all part of the stomping ground mainly through cricket as a youth..Hamilton Mountain
was THE iconic rivalry.I was born in Retreat same house ,same room as MLC Foster, different month, in Content, the build up (capital ) part of the district which stretched far across the Rio Nuevo
river into to the country part that one accessed then with a swing bridge that located just across from the Anglican Church which was nearly a mile
from the Central part,Content. That was the home of my mother.But we grew up in my Father's inherited large plantation of bananas in
Maiden Hall, three miles south of Pembroke Hall and less than two miles south also of Jeffrey Town and two miles north of Guy's Hill on the St. Mary side of that town.
The Gray family's home was |Maiden Hall back in the of the patriarch after slavery and the district eventually took that name.Property stretched from River to River, i.e White River
which began on the St.Mary side of Guy's Hill and flowed east toward Dillon Town which is St.Ann, and flowed by Blackstonege forming tghe border with St. Ann to end near
Ocho Rios.
I could regale you with Tales of the Parish, but I had to laugh loudly about the duppy stories. Head grew big when they were told and boy fraid to go outside.
Electricity was not available and nights were black except for the moon shine time.lol
It was fun boarding the trucks loaded with bananas to the Oracabessa to either the Industry whart or Standard wharft where my old man was head
banana checker before the fruits were loaded to canoes/small boats to go offshore to the two waiting ships as the waters were shallow, unlike Port Antonio or
Bowden in St. Thomas.
The biggest banana planters were the Delissers, Champagnie,Marsh and the Grays in Western St.Mary and the guys that own such in Geddes Town/Free Hill and other districts
in what became Central St.Mary with the addition of a Third Constituency etc going back to Port Maria Islington with Frontier
Property both being significant and historic too by the role in Tacky's deeds back in the day.
Yet Tacky High School is located in Gayle,the de facto capital of Western S.Mary ////
St.Mary was a boy's delight ..for fun...with riverside cooking after nabbing huge cray fish from the White River for the cook out there and the plentifu Janga which
we called Black hog from the Rio Sambre of which quite a few rivers of that name can be found in different and far apart districts in St. Mary.
We called ours Sambo and the Rio Tigre which flowed through Pembroke Hall (Wood Park), Derry,towards Dressikie(Dress to Kill)and beyond the valleys of Gayle,we called Tiger. Those all formed
the many tributaries behind Carron hall,Donnington and which are the headwaters of Rio Nuevo.
Wonderful Parish Then...the Ian Fleming Airport based in Boscobel was the horse race course and entertainment area on the then Emancipation day August 1st when
even donkeys would race against thoroughbred horses and sometimes win..lollol
Between the Jacks River factory road and the river mentioned was one of the best little cricket fields you could find too and the ambience was great with sweet orange groves
beyond the boundary at both ends.
St.Mary in my time was the best rural cricket parish for many year dating back to visits from British teams in early 20th century and which some English cricketers claimed to have the
best cricket field apart from Bourda. That was Palmer's Park which went kaput and replaced by a good buy inferior field called Clemetson Park. Clemetson being one of if not the biggest
banana producer back in the day and who was very generous by donating a scholarhip to the then Jamaica School of Agriculture then situation near Central Village. It was worth 60 Pounds a year but only for a St. Mary boy. I won it in 1961 after it was not claimed for about 10 years,But being still a teen,parents hoofed me off to Mico instead,no if and or but or question.
At that time it was worth about 105 Pounds a year with half going to student in cash. Who said I was a winner ???lol
Ten pounds then could get you more than 2 acres of good land anywhere but unlimited amount of distilled product of white variety for many days.lollol
Those were the days when a PNP voter was a thought except for my family, one person in Wallingford and the McFarlane family from which sprang Uton Dowe in Jeffery Town
and one or two in Decoy. A Champagnie and Claude Stewart and a Robinson were the only sure PNP votes then in Pembroke Hall,better known as Wood Park after the cricket club of that name.
I was a numerator at 16,poll clerk at 16 and Presiding Officer in the illfated election called by NWM before independence following his huge loss in the Referendum. Set the Party and Country back
decades and we have not achieved our True Independence even now.There is hardly a place I have not been to in the entire Parish.
Hopefully the party of the Head,...Busta used the Hand symbol in early days and the illiterate especially in my part of the Woods would point it out when they come to vote.
'I want the Hand'. If you dare question them which we could not do, they would be quick to respond..'me have to labour with mi hand...I will follow Buta till I die.''
Hopefully, Golding's PNP can enthuse the young under 25 people to vote as the Head was the symbol for Education,wisdom,intelligence and discernment among other things.
Now that Sept 3 is near, the PNP task will be tough but 70 years after PNP's Claude Stewart won PNP's first seat in Western St. Mary, the party will now sweep all three.
I can only hope. If the young ones turn out for them and plurality goes over 55 per cent then it will be done,other than that I see a dishonest and mostly ill equipped party
remaining in power.
Imagine Desmond McKenzie who I knew from his wearing baggy days, is OJ. ??? And Lecky is not a National Hero.
What can go so ? Sorry for the diatribe's length.
Walk good.
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rudebway 8/11/25, 5:52:50 PM
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debut: 7/29/09
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In reply to Chrissy

well, the Gleaner is reporting that the police killed 2 men in relation to this attack. not surprised. i didnt realize the little boy died. the video of him trying to get up in the car is beyond heart wrenching.


i know politicians from both sides of the aisle usually get accused of misuse of funds. but i think the blatant actions of this administration are just way out there
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