Mi hear seh

In reply to hubert



who is going to be the messenger?

In reply to michaelmax
I have to admit, what I saw last night was good "politicking." But looking at what happened in Murca one sees many a dichotomy..Voters were fed up with Biden's inflation but ignored Trump's corruption. Both those situations are on the JLP side. But yet, people who agree that unemployment and crime is low may ignore the above.The PNP (don't know, even polls may be wrong) though seems to be messaging tepidly and timidly. Who and what will ppl listen to or be moved by?

In reply to ponderiver

What about the Devil's Race Course, yuh know dem place!

In reply to Brerzerk

Polls from 2023 to June 2025 shows the PNP consistently ahead. Yes it's tightened. Same polls show NO movement for the JLP over that time hovering at 29 to about 29.5%. Movement away from PNP went to uncommitted. The PNP is messaging fine. However, their messaging ISN'T using traditional media channels given how JLP ised the media is. And I don't just mean ownership but I mean actual JOURNALISTS. They are using social media and DIRECT communication. So every rally/parish meeting- they drop reminders of some policy proposal. Other times in different parishes they held economic fora. The held an education one in Chuck's constituency. The held the second one with people with disabilities which is what I shared. From what I can see they don't just want to be telling people what THEY will do but seem to want to HEAR from ppl what THEIR issues are to fine tune policy and that is very different. It's not the traditional approach even though they are using that but they seem to be trying to get conversations on education, creative industries, housing, local govt, participatory democracy, youth and people with disabilities & inclusive growth. Those are the themes they hit regularly even as the hit the JLP on corruption. Crawford is saying the JLP has failed education. It's not the typical rae rae with policy thrown in. They are campaigning on JLP failure and on PNP policy. As I said they are using social media and taking messages directly to the constituencies. They have had multiple bus tours criscrossing the parishes with candidates and party presenting plans. They've also done esp in the country house to house campaigning. Whatever, the result Delroy Chuck for the FIRST time campaigned. They went to Standpipe to hold a discussion. They met twice with taximen in Papine. As I said, it is a DIFFERENT form of campaigning than what we know. Mark has had interviews with different popular tiktokers. The PNP 2020 campaign had NO CLUE how to leverage social media. Not true of this communications group.

In reply to Brerzerk

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMAJhU1br/
Make of this what you will. This is a JLP town hall

In reply to hubert

My former job took me to many of those places, but in the days of electricity!

In reply to Chrissy

I am calling it early, 33 comrades, 30 green bush!

In reply to XDFIX

Lucky you..Born right time

In reply to XDFIX

Devil race course lissen nuh boss i used to be on that road on a Monday morning on the star bus to Jago on the way to Spanish town
To this day talking about it gives me the chills
I used to catch the bus before day a mawning at Jacks River i was only a child

In reply to ponderiver

Star bus..the conductor in my time was Mr.Coulton.His daughter Marjorie was in same class at Wallingford Elementary and her
his son Woodley a few years younger did too.He lived in Dressikie and they would catch the bus back after 4 p.m.
Such a nice man he was. He took care of all the young ones .Sadly that route through Wood Park,Herman Hill Wallingford,Maiden
Hall Decoy to Guy's Hill could not happen today as the road no longer exist and traffic has to go through Barker or another converted
parochial road to get to Jeffrey Town to get to Maiden Hall through Top Road. The road going through Wallingford stops at Wallingford.
Underground water problem which has existed for decades caused home to sink in Herman Hill and has taken the road away.
Devil's race Course...This made St.Mary drivers the best.
Remember when it was narrow and not asphalted and meeting a mosquito going or coming presented a problem
At its deepest point,the precipice is over a mile. Mango trees on the downward side have saved many a trucker, including
one of my brothers.Making an ascent was equally dangerous...a late gear causing a roll back was a no no.
I wonder if they found a way to widen that road...Last time I went on it was on visit in 1993 and it was still a major challenge
and very strange to me.
Yes back in the day,every vehicle going up or down had a Must Stop at Coley's place to catch a breath,buy mangoes,oranges or other goodies.
before moving on to the plains of St. Catherine to Linstead or to tackle hills and curves towards Benbow/Guy's Hill.
It was fun
Makes Spur Tree Hill with its wide curves, a piece a cake. But I am still here
BTW , I have seen on You Tube the condition of the road thru Jacks River and the vegetation is horrible. The once beautiful landscape of tall
coconut trees from Ramble are no more and the landscape is bare,hardly a banana tree and road is even narrower before you get to turn off to Free Hill.
Not good visuals and Jacks River is run down except for the gas station and a few good homes.
Have you been back there lately ?
BTW, My nephew who lived in Guy's Hill drove the road at 12 years old in his father's car to Dinthill HS causing mayhem (excitement) . Sadly he passed two years ago
in his late 60s.

In reply to ponderiver

thought you were from Ewerton?

In reply to hubert

Yuh sound like a true countryman.

In reply to camos

I lived in Ewarton but used to spend weekends and summer holidays in St Marry via all those routes Hubert so eloquently described
For the record i was born in Kingston left at 6 and went back as 14 year old and lived in mannings hill road at the bottom where it runs into Havendale untill i left Jamaica
In between i lived in Linstead Ewarton and went everywhere with my pops who had a bus truck and taxi business
I had family in Clarendon St Ann and St Mary and travelled a lot with my pops who had a truck bus and taxi business
That road from Ewarton to St Ann via Mt Diablo, Mt Rosser and Moneague was a wild ride

my tik tok is getting flooded with JLP stuff. Comrades need to up their game.


Reading this thread. Man some of you guys are ..whats the word i am looking for. vintage. yes that's it.

Hubert: i like the vivid St Mary descriptions. BTW, i know and am acquainted with some of the younger Champagnies from St Mary.

PM announces free 2-month JUTC service for students starting September

Prime Minister Dr Andrew Holness on Sunday announced free transport on the State-run bus service for all schoolchildren and tertiary students for two months when the new academic year opens in September.

The pronouncement was greeted by loud and sustained cheers from thousands of supporters of the ruling Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) at a mass rally in Half-Way-Tree square where he announced that Jamaica will go to the poll in the next general election on Wednesday, September 3, 2025.

In reply to hubert

Thank you so much for sharing this you are a wonderful historian
StMary was where i fully experienced country life

Making coconut oil waking through miles and miles of orange and banana walks and running for cover when the spray plane flew overhead

In reply to XDFIX

You know I've always said di man tek wi fi eediat. Ah mean dat just inna yuh face braps. What's the point besides trying to bribe voters for their vote? 2mths? Point?

In reply to michaelmax

Yard politics will never change!

In reply to XDFIX

Yard politics will never change!


Correct. Freeness and vote buying. That’s yard politics.

In reply to XDFIX

Are you seeing the hoopla regarding the tape recording of k d knight criticizing Golding? Tufton played it at a jlp rally and knight is claiming it is doctored. I doubt that.

Separately, on tik tok, the jlp operatives are playing an old Damion Crawford voice note from about 3 or so years ago where he is criticizing Golding . Fun times

In reply to rudebway

Oh they back on those again? They tried that before. Hell, they have tried to use Karen Cross, they have tried the KD and Damion thing before, KD threatening to sue Tufton, they have tried Mark's father being British, they have tried Mark's race. Hasn't shaken a soul. Vaz cussing the PNP for their stance on the rural school buses. Of course, many have broken down. One got stuck going up a hill. Others have crashed. He admitted issues with tyres. There is a video of one where members of the public are saying: yu nuh hear she seh it cyaan guh inna reverse. Of course these are OLD US LHD buses. He brought the buses a political ploy and now the issues with the buses are blowing up inna im face an im bex.

Oh sorry, he says that he has instructed his lawyers to go ahead.

In reply to rudebway

Btw, I find that places like Twitter and TikTok will flood you with the OPPOSITE of your support for engagement. Twitter constantly shows me ideologies OPPOSITE to mine from education to politics. I make my life easier by muting, blocking & ignoring. I watched a few PNP things on TikTok and now I get some JLP things.

In reply to rudebway

Yes, JLP appears to be dominating the social media landscape. PNP gotta step up their game!

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