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michaelmax 8/13/25, 1:15:34 AM
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Oh I was just about share this
Chrissy 8/13/25, 1:56:41 AM
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On this side we can spell Jamaica!
Waaaah!lol
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michaelmax 8/13/25, 2:07:41 AM
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Lmao
XDFIX 8/13/25, 2:28:33 AM
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Both parties are rallying behind the cross!
XDFIX 8/13/25, 2:35:09 AM
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The singer is struggling to capture the audience or hold a vibe!

I'm not sure this intellectual exercise will work well, especially for an opposition party.

You have to do a lot of jump' up and wave', and the PNP is not doing enough of that in my opinion!

Not sure the proletariat has any interest in a manifesto!
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michaelmax 8/13/25, 2:51:21 AM
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Jump up & wave is for the campaign trail.
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Chrissy 8/13/25, 2:52:34 AM
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That will be in HWT
This is very normal
michaelmax 8/13/25, 2:56:23 AM
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More importantly there are PEOPLE who WANT to know what the parties are about. Jumping up & waving is for COMRADES and Labourites. THOSE votes are LOCKED. Manifestos are to cement your own and to reach any potentially gettable voters who are uncommitted but WILL VOTE. This is the PNP drawing a line in the sand about being DIFFERENT from the JLP. The parties have been seen as mirror images fair or not.
michaelmax 8/13/25, 2:57:05 AM
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Precisely. It's as if he's NEVER seen a manifesto launch.
rudebway 8/13/25, 4:13:09 AM
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You have to do a lot of jump' up and wave', and the PNP is not doing enough of that in my opinion!

Not sure the proletariat has any interest in a manifesto!


I see this similar to you. They need to up the excitement. Bro Gad is organic, and works for the youth. Markie G with a kangol hat? That is contrived, and reactionary.

Manifesto - hopefully it contains some tangible freeness. Not job creation for youth or better infrastructure or roads. Freeness. run with it. You cannot implement intellectual ideas from the opposition benches. tangible freeness.

jump and wave - there will be blowback, but they have nothing to lose. they need the youth vote. Kartel at HWT. If they can get him to leave south Florida.
michaelmax 8/13/25, 4:32:33 AM
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Which youth are we talking about because the youth are NOT a monolith. For those disinterested no freeness is getting them off their asses to vote. Those will be looking for dollars wrapped in a paper bag. Youth who THINK are different and it doesn't matter their level of education. Again jump up and wave is WHAT they've been doing on campaign tours. I GUARANTEE you youth moved by freeness will NOT be watching this. However, THIS manifesto will be widely discussed and critiqued both fairly & unfairly by traditional media, TikTok, Twitter, Labourites etc but that simply means the message will get out. They already said they've launched it in audioform on Soundcloud and Spotify and have a version going out by WhatsApp. Contrary to popular belief there is a subset of Jamaicans of ALL generations who are concerned by ISSUES and THOSE have been turned off politics by what they see as lack of issues and just rae rae politics. The PNP gains NOTHING from that. See 2016. It works for Labour not PNP because there is a DOUBLE STANDARD. If the JLP runs on NOTHING, no blowback,no narrative. PNP does that- they are NO different- what do they have to offer?
michaelmax 8/13/25, 4:41:35 AM
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michaelmax 8/13/25, 5:09:43 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/12/self-disinfecting-door-handle-hospitals-jamaica

Btw THIS is what I mean when I say WHICH youth. I found that characterisation of youth as insulting.
rudebway 8/13/25, 1:34:48 PM
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I found that characterisation of youth as insulting.


it appears to me that you thought i was making a broad characterizing of youth as just wanting freeness etc . to be clear, that is not what i wrote or meant to convey. I was referring of the appeal of the two candidates in general to the folks who are not old enough to know about all that Manley did. the general appeal of a younger Bro Gad (he is our bro, he is brown, he is younger and he is close to us so that's why he is Bro Gad, a term of endearment and affection). He is cool. He wears Clarkes pon foot.

I am sure "Markie G" was not created to appeal to older folks. Actually, the very fact that "Markie G" was created speaks volumes.

i can tell we view this differently so i will leave it there.
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rudebway 8/13/25, 1:52:45 PM
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[quote
Yes, JLP appears to be dominating the social media landscape. PNP gotta step up their game!][/quote]


most of the ones i saw last week were mocking his shirt at grand gala and saying he looks like a quest security guard. the new ones are now the kd knight tape and i just saw two new ones of him on the campaign trail. They are purporting that on the campaign trail, golding was scratching his ass and then shaking peoples hands. there is a still photo of his hand in the back of his pants. (i wouldn't say scratching his ass)

this is what it says: him a scratch him bottom and shake people hand; a promise oonu house inna swamp land.

a next one "when are you not a toppanoris" shows him shaking hands of black people on the campaign trail, and then immediately wiping off his hand. it is followed by a voice over with Goldings lips moving. "as soon as Golding done shake them hand him tun round and wipe off him hand like them a some nasty naaga". they show his lips moving to imply that he said "nasty naaga"

their social media operatives are clearly active and that's their strategy. i am not Michelle Obama. when they go low, go lower.
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rudebway 8/13/25, 3:03:07 PM
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have you heard Pretty Labor Party? Connie Francis did Pretty Little Baby. If you don't know it, check out Elephant Man "Pretty Baby" which dropped recently.
JLP dropped Pretty Labor Party. Kerensia Morrison is doing a nice job
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rudebway 8/13/25, 4:12:31 PM
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KD Knight drop the original voice note. Clearly spliced by Tufton. Go after him KD. Not just sue him . Tell him you can’t Market Me.
Brerzerk 8/13/25, 6:25:22 PM
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What a "reddish! Good debate/insights/discussions but most of all nostalgia thanks to Xman, Pondie, Hubert et al

I man born in Ewarton, went to Kingston @ 1 month old then back to Linstead @ 6. And yes I-man inna di vintage ranks. Should actually know that nephew Maas Hubie wrote of. Can identify with zillions of friends and contemporaries with Pondie's experiences. If Pondie is a contemporary of Greg Brown who was playing Senior Cup while still a Jago student and if Pondie played for Jagonthen we played vs each other in practice matches.
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Chrissy 8/13/25, 6:53:50 PM
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Was really glad to hear the plan for the no hair discrimination law - at freaking last.
Chrissy 8/13/25, 6:54:41 PM
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A real nice thread dislol
michaelmax 8/13/25, 9:01:11 PM
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Ok, I think I'm having a heart attack here

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMAetCEj8/
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Chrissy 8/13/25, 9:29:12 PM
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LOL

And Jamaica Love is a wicked song - wait til dat buss inna HWT

sweet
Chrissy 8/13/25, 9:36:09 PM
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michaelmax 8/13/25, 10:50:03 PM
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https://youtu.be/T9ZfDTEyE-4?si=Sbl4xQiRkjAiCcHW

Go to 13:02 because Nationwide and George Davis SHOCKED ME.
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